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Repot Man American Federation of Government Employees reports that 96% of their members party contributions in 2024 went to democratsThat was my source curious what your source is that contradicts this or do you have no source just wanted to say it isn’t true ?

That’s a labor union and doesn’t include all federal workers. Would be surprised that most public labor union workers are dems, and I also wouldn’t be surprised if the far majority of veterans (about 30% of the federal workforce) employed by the federal government are republican. It will vary by agency. The DOD is the largest agency. You think the DOD employees more dems than republicans? Of course not.

At the end of the day, the people who work for the government are your friends and neighbors. Does your political view change the way you work? Theirs likely doesn’t either. They are not the enemy. If they are fired or work from the office instead of working from home will not impact any of our lives whatsoever.

Just another way to keep people angry.

 

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That’s a labor union and doesn’t include all federal workers. Would be surprised that most public labor union workers are dems, and I also wouldn’t be surprised if the far majority of veterans (about 30% of the federal workforce) employed by the federal government are republican. It will vary by agency. The DOD is the largest agency. You think the DOD employees more dems than republicans? Of course not.

At the end of the day, the people who work for the government are your friends and neighbors. Does your political view change the way you work? Theirs likely doesn’t either. They are not the enemy. If they are fired or work from the office instead of working from home will not impact any of our lives whatsoever.

Just another way to keep people angry.

Government should not be immune to being efficient and needing to rightsize when necessary. It’s not about who they voted for or who is your neighbor. Some agencies outlive their usefulness and others grow beyond what is cost effective.

 

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American Federation of Government Employees has over 750,000 members so that is about 25% of government employees if anyone has data that other employees are not predominately democrats please cite it.Why do Dems deny data when they don’t like it ? Losing a MSNBC anchor who has that habit which is acceptable at that network maybe even admired.

 

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https://www.theworldranking.com/sta...ederal-government-employees-in-united-states/

Adding a lot of Federal workers over the past few years. With technology and automation, it really should have been going in the opposite direction.

 

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American Federation of Government Employees has over 750,000 members so that is about 25% of government employees if anyone has data that other employees are not predominately democrats please cite it.Why do Dems deny data when they don’t like it ? Losing a MSNBC anchor who has that habit which is acceptable at that network maybe even admired.

Haven’t found a more recent survey, but I wouldn’t expect the makeup to shift significantly.

There Are More Republicans in Federal Government Than You Might Think

Four in 10 feds identify with the GOP, poll shows.

www.govexec.com

This one was 44-40 dems… they have the edge but not by that much, but again… these people for the most part are just normal every day people.

 

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https://www.axios.com/2025/02/25/doge-trump-musk-budget-cuts-math

Good summary of DOGE-to-date. Next step that would make sense would be to have categories (ie labor reductions/department consolidation - which create ongoing savings; fraud - payments that are to criminals, sloppy work, lack of controls; program elimination - like the silly stuff in USAID).

Long term, AI and automation can streamline a lot of the work - same functions that private sector is focused.

An indirect benefit to US on defense is that if NATO ups their defense contribution to 5% then that will drive revenue to defense contractors as European countries don’t have those businesses.

 

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DOGE Is Working on Software That Automates the Firing of Government Workers

Operatives working for Elon Musk’s DOGE appear to be editing the code of AutoRIF—software designed by the Defense Department that could assist in mass firings of federal workers, sources tell WIRED.

www.wired.com

 

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When it was ok for a democrat to reduce federal jobs Clinton cut about 377,000 in his eight years in office.Jeffries in his bluster against doge knows complicit media will not bring this up an average voter is unaware of it.Maybe Jeffries is unaware of it ?

 

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When it was ok for a democrat to reduce federal jobs Clinton cut about 377,000 in his eight years in office.Jeffries in his bluster against doge knows complicit media will not bring this up an average voter is unaware of it.Maybe Jeffries is unaware of it ?

The difference being that when Clinton pushed for efficiencies, he created a task force to review what to cut and make recommendations. The task force worked for months before making recommendations, and it was staffed by people who understood what the government does and were not going to make cuts they'd have to walk back within a week or two because they did not understand the consequence of cutting certain jobs. They cared about what the law was so they didn't have to end up in legal battles over the cuts and they they also worked with Congress as needed and the job reductions occurred over years

Democrats are certainly playing politics with the issue, just as I am sure republicans did when they said everything Clinton wanted to do would be a disaster, but if Clinton's model for efficiency is something that most would now agree was a good thing, then the longer more thoughtful approach by people within the government should be the preferred method over our current chaotic approach, no?

 

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The difference being that when Clinton pushed for efficiencies, he created a task force to review what to cut and make recommendations. The task force worked for months before making recommendations, and it was staffed by people who understood what the government does and were not going to make cuts they'd have to walk back within a week or two because they did not understand the consequence of cutting certain jobs. They cared about what the law was so they didn't have to end up in legal battles over the cuts and they they also worked with Congress as needed and the job reductions occurred over years

Democrats are certainly playing politics with the issue, just as I am sure republicans did when they said everything Clinton wanted to do would be a disaster, but if Clinton's model for efficiency is something that most would now agree was a good thing, then the longer more thoughtful approach by people within the government should be the preferred method over our current chaotic approach, no?

I would agree with you if we were in 1990’s and not talking about about being 37 Trillion in debt. Clinton did a great job, I voted and supported him. I have been saying for some time that when the discussion changed from billions to trillions starting with Bush jr., the core of our democracy changed. Politicians have been fighting over more and more money, they have been riding a high. What happened then could not happen now we just had a 1.7 trillion dollar bill pass under Biden called of all things an Inflation Reduction Bill. I’m not the smartest guy but that sounded nuts. Buy and spend our way out of inflation? Really. I believe the corruption runs really deep and it’s not just one sided. I think Trump understands better now, he went outside of the Republican Party to get honest people. Money is at the root of all evil. Desperate times call for desperate measures. Sorry for all the cliches. Going to end with one more, we will sink or swim with Trump. We should all be on board since they are spending our money.

 

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We should all be on board since they are spending our money.

I'm on board with making cuts. Have said here many times that my issue with democrats is that they don't ever want to cut spending (and conversely republicans don't ever want to spend on anything) but I don't think it's unreasonable to be critical of an approach where they are not taking time to understand where the efficiencies can be gained. The approach so far is chaotic (ready, shoot, aim). I don't think it's unreasonable to be critical of an approach where the measures they are will be lost in a court battle because they are in violation of law. I don't think it's unreasonable to be critical of the guy tweeting out all of the fraud and waste and savings where almost all of them are misleading at best and some downright lies.

I've also criticized democrats in this thread because I don't think their approach to being against any cuts is reasonable, not to mention bad politics in the current environment. I just think we should be taking a more methodical approach to cuts and efficiencies.

 

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