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Dr. Fauci gives grim projection


And they will be aggressive in testing, and they will prevent it from spreading to a significant portion of their population again... because the virus is dependent on the opportunity to spread. It doesn’t need to hit a certain percentage of the population to burn out.

Even if we get to herd immunity protecting most Americans, it will still be spreading here... just at a more reasonable level.
 
And they will be aggressive in testing, and they will prevent it from spreading to a significant portion of their population again... because the virus is dependent on the opportunity to spread. It doesn’t need to hit a certain percentage of the population to burn out.

Even if we get to herd immunity protecting most Americans, it will still be spreading here... just at a more reasonable level.
Any updates on the health of the college students at UNC? Praying for them ....
 
Any updates on the health of the college students at UNC? Praying for them ....

Not sure why you’re replying to me about them?

as I said in the other thread, not really concerning to me that it would spread at a college. We should expect that it will, and maybe that’s ok.
 
Not sure why you’re replying to me about them?

as I said in the other thread, not really concerning to me that it would spread at a college. We should expect that it will, and maybe that’s ok.
Because you were next in the chain that’s all. I still don’t know how to respond without looking like a direct reply. Sorry. Can anyone answer my question? Thanks
 
Why does anyone listen to this joke of an organization?

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/08/21/who-warns-a-coronavirus-vaccine-alone-will-not-end-pandemic.html

Somehow this globalist stooge manages to fit "climate change" into his narrative. The more that comes out, the more it's clear that COVID-1984 is the trigger event to implement the elite's plans for the end of nations, population control and one world government. They've been planning for decades and have a lot of patience, but it appears they're now finally making a move. They must be stopped at all costs.
 
Had a delicious breakfast here today as a show of support for this small business owner and as a giant middle finger to Governor Mother Murphy:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/travel/ne...ide-diner-continues-indoor-dining/ar-BB18biI9
in PA they have indoor dining open, but typically its also accompanied with outdoor seating (some use their parking lots) so the customer has a choice. inside they typically space out seating so theres at least 2 tables in between. they do not heat check you.

i personally opt for the outdoor seating but inside seems like theyre doing the best they can. the difference with restaurants is that customers must take off their mask, as opposed to having to wear one in a retail store.

hoping that all it takes is some extra precautions and people LISTENING TO DIRECTIONS that we can have everything back including sports.
 
https://newyork.cbslocal.com/2020/08/18/coronavirus-covid-19-northwell-health-ceo-michael-dowling/

this guy is an incredible leader and this is how you get things done during a pandemic. While Cuomo and Trump were in a pissing match, they just went to work. Note his comments on PPE and domestic production. Also another reason why you would never want government run healthcare.
i know a head nurse in the covid unit for a northwell hospital. this guy runs his hospitals like a true business and looking to destaff or possibly remove the more experienced (expensive) workers in favor of cheaper ones who do a terrible job. she says new class of nurses are not giving the attention needed and actively try to avoid the worse situations. if a patient needs extra care it doesnt matter, your shift is only a set amount of minutes and then you must leave the room, no matter what the patient is going through. too much money to have the nurses do their job. and dont expect any bonuses for those that risked their lives pumping out the money machine.

its such a bold take this man was in awe of how great a job he did. the truth is likely somewhere in the middle of the spectrum.
 
i know a head nurse in the covid unit for a northwell hospital. this guy runs his hospitals like a true business and looking to destaff or possibly remove the more experienced (expensive) workers in favor of cheaper ones who do a terrible job. she says new class of nurses are not giving the attention needed and actively try to avoid the worse situations. if a patient needs extra care it doesnt matter, your shift is only a set amount of minutes and then you must leave the room, no matter what the patient is going through. too much money to have the nurses do their job. and dont expect any bonuses for those that risked their lives pumping out the money machine.

its such a bold take this man was in awe of how great a job he did. the truth is likely somewhere in the middle of the spectrum.
Everyone is going to have an opinion. Dowling has a long history at North Shore, then NS/LIJ in building one of the premier IDN’s in the country. Had personal experience with them in how they handled PPE and they had it under control from day one and never looked back. They also published the first look back data on COVID which was extremely valuable. He doesn’t need me to be a cheerleader, but Cuomo tapped him to also lead PPE management for the state because several hospitals were drowning.
 
Everyone is going to have an opinion. Dowling has a long history at North Shore, then NS/LIJ in building one of the premier IDN’s in the country. Had personal experience with them in how they handled PPE and they had it under control from day one and never looked back. They also published the first look back data on COVID which was extremely valuable. He doesn’t need me to be a cheerleader, but Cuomo tapped him to also lead PPE management for the state because several hospitals were drowning.
as it relates to PPE i cant argue. the nurse im talking about was on the covid response floor , has lupus, and has not caught anything since march. knock on wood!
 
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i know a head nurse in the covid unit for a northwell hospital. this guy runs his hospitals like a true business and looking to destaff or possibly remove the more experienced (expensive) workers in favor of cheaper ones who do a terrible job. she says new class of nurses are not giving the attention needed and actively try to avoid the worse situations. if a patient needs extra care it doesnt matter, your shift is only a set amount of minutes and then you must leave the room, no matter what the patient is going through. too much money to have the nurses do their job. and dont expect any bonuses for those that risked their lives pumping out the money machine.

its such a bold take this man was in awe of how great a job he did. the truth is likely somewhere in the middle of the spectrum.
Nursing quality going downhill everywhere I hear

I also hear many younger nurses don’t believe in going the extra mile
 
On another front, I spoke with two healthcare execs today: one from Denmark and one from Sweden. Both countries took very different paths...Denmark very restrictive and Sweden more passive. I asked them if they could do one thing different what would it be. The one from Sweden said, they were very late with social distancing...they had allowed large concerts even though cases were increasing. She said that wearing a mask is still optional and most don't wear them in the street or indoors, but she does believe that they should mandate them on subways since a large segment of the Stockholm population commutes to work that way. The one from Denmark thought their government was too restrictive, but that's part of their culture. Sweden's fatalities/100K is similar to U.S. and Denmark is about 20% of either. U.S. case fatality rate similar to Denmark and both are half of Sweden. Not sure what any of this tells us, but it doesn't factor in that we have a much unhealthier population to start with than either country which probably drives more of the numbers.
 
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Nursing quality going downhill everywhere I hear

I also hear many younger nurses don’t believe in going the extra mile

A generation that has been raised to believe failure is okay, everyone gets a trophy, you must blame others for your setbacks and other people will take care of and solve any problems.

The chickens are coming home to roost.
 
A generation that has been raised to believe failure is okay, everyone gets a trophy, you must blame others for your setbacks and other people will take care of and solve any problems.

The chickens are coming home to roost.
I agree with all of this with the proviso that failing is ok if it was not the result of ill preparation and as long as you learn from it and not expect someone else to clean up your mess and you clean it yourself.

Young kids now will grow into those you describe PLUS with some other great things the mainstream is teaching like capitalism is bad, you need government to provide your every want and need because you’re incapable of doing it on your own and you might have to be ashamed of your background. Needs to stop.
 
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I agree with all of this with the proviso that failing is ok if it was not the result of ill preparation and as long as you learn from it and not expect someone else to clean up your mess and you clean it yourself.

Young kids now will grow into those you describe PLUS with some other great things the mainstream is teaching like capitalism is bad, you need government to provide your every want and need because you’re incapable of doing it on your own and you might have to be ashamed of your background. Needs to stop.
At the end of the day, this falls on the parents that enabled this to happen. If you just give them everything and they never know what it's like to work hard and earn something, what do you expect? I'm old enough to know that every generation sees problems with the next one, so some of this is also cyclical. And finally, we also need to factor in how technology shapes generational behavior. My parents lives were shaped by the radio and advent of the television; Baby Boomers by Cable TV; Generation X by the computer and internet; Millennials by the smart phone and social media.
 
Nursing quality going downhill everywhere I hear

I also hear many younger nurses don’t believe in going the extra mile
100%. and of course this isnt always the case. ive had some decent young nurses. but im just passing forward what i hear.

to any fan on this board that knows a young, or aspiring nurse be sure to positively reinforce their career choice because they are HELPING people.
 
Nursing quality going downhill everywhere I hear

I also hear many younger nurses don’t believe in going the extra mile
I'm not sure I agree with that...to much of a generalization. I do see that those that historically went into nursing are now pursuing NP/PA positions instead.
 
Just my most recent experience. My father in law was recently in ICU at Northwell Health's Southside Hospital. The nurses, while young, were incredible. From the time he was admitted to his passing they definitely went the extra mile. .
 
I agree with all of this with the proviso that failing is ok if it was not the result of ill preparation and as long as you learn from it and not expect someone else to clean up your mess and you clean it yourself.

Young kids now will grow into those you describe PLUS with some other great things the mainstream is teaching like capitalism is bad, you need government to provide your every want and need because you’re incapable of doing it on your own and you might have to be ashamed of your background. Needs to stop.

Well said.
 
Just my most recent experience. My father in law was recently in ICU at Northwell Health's Southside Hospital. The nurses, while young, were incredible. From the time he was admitted to his passing they definitely went the extra mile. .
i just realized its difficult to understand what "young" means to this board haha.
 
100%. and of course this isnt always the case. ive had some decent young nurses. but im just passing forward what i hear.

to any fan on this board that knows a young, or aspiring nurse be sure to positively reinforce their career choice because they are HELPING people.
Well said on all fronts
 
Today there are nine COVID patients, nine, total, that are hospitalized in the Lehigh Valley (population 700k)
 
The nurses who cared for my FIL were right out of nursing school.

also, I hope shufan1993 is ok. There’s been some news locally like gyms opening, maybe restaurants in 2 weeks, etc, with no commentary.
 
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The nurses who cared for my FIL were right out of nursing school.

also, I hope shufan1993 is ok. There’s been some news locally like gyms opening, maybe restaurants in 2 weeks, etc, with no commentary.
Was thinking same thing, he was all over this thread and anytime was bad news, can’t recall him posting in a while.
 
Was thinking same thing, he was all over this thread and anytime was bad news, can’t recall him posting in a while.
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Saw him at the gym
 
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My point is that posters were calling me a "coward" and "jerk off" for saying there will be a second shutdown. Just for telling the truth. That's what I'm getting at. People just can't follow the script. The governor has the state scheduled to shut down again in September. 2 months before the election.
We are on pace for gyms, indoor dining and movie theaters to open this week, which is September.
 
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https://nbc-2.com/news/health/2020/...19-deaths-in-u-s-had-contributing-conditions/

Stats matter. The new MSM talking point is the number of positive tests on college campuses. No kidding...kids are back on campus...what do you expect. Please tell me how many are 1) Symptomatic 2) Hospitalized and 3) Died.

Yes. Those 3 items are important when discussing the spread among college students.

Speaking of dumb talking points though. That link you posted is an excellent example of one that has been going around.
 
Yes. Those 3 items are important when discussing the spread among college students.

Speaking of dumb talking points though. That link you posted is an excellent example of one that has been going around.
Why?
 

Because people are using that headline to suggest that these people did not die because of Covid, which is complete nonsense.

The far majority of this country has something that would be a comorbidity if they died of Covid.
 
Because people are using that headline to suggest that these people did not die because of Covid, which is complete nonsense.

The far majority of this country has something that would be a comorbidity if they died of Covid.
Average was 2.6 comorbitities. The majority of the country isn’t that compromised.
 
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