George Floyd had ‘violent criminal history’: Minneapolis police union chief
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When knowingly dealing with a violent criminal officers will certainly be quicker to use force. I don’t know if the officers in Minn knew of his criminal history. Then regardless of his criminal history as soon as he/she is no longer a threat to himself, the public or others he/she should be immediately placed into the patrol car and taken into the station. There is no excuse or reason for kneeling on his neck for 8 plus minutes.
I am also sickened that there is very little coverage of the several police officers that have been Murdered at these riots. Many many more officers have been injured as well. But I guess to some of you that is okay.
I am also sickened that there is very little coverage of the several police officers that have been Murdered at these riots. Many many more officers have been injured as well. But I guess to some of you that is okay.
One weekend in Chicago 85 shot, 24 fatally. This is what happened in one weekend in Chicago. 1 FREAKING WEEKEND. There's no march against ending this crap. There's no coverage of the news saying people need to be better. There's absolutely nothing because none of them were done by cops. What happned to George Floyd was horrible. But to call about change for what happened to him and not give the same attention to these situations just shows how sad our society because of how much power the news media has over our lives. I'm curious what would be the situation in this country right now if each of these killings received equal time of coverage as opposed to picking the one that suits an agenda.
https://chicago.suntimes.com/2020/6...tings-most-violent-weekend-2020-may-29-june-1
You are correct on so many levels but I’ll share a story of a Lt of mine that made me think a little while on the job. I was dealing with woman who was screaming like a crazy person and I lost my cool a little and gave her a piece of my mind. My Lt brought me into his office and ripped into me. This Lt mind you almost always had your back. When I tried to justify my words to the woman by saying that she was totally unreasonable, my Lt said to me “she doesn’t get paid to be reasonable”. I always remembered that and as I rose through the ranks I made sure to pass it along.
IRON (me) is a Law Enforcement Officer and yes what happened in MINN was NOT right by any means, but 99% of us would not do such things thus wish people would stop hating on ALL of us.......We are good people looking out for the best interests of all......... Go Hall - Kaz
Iron, I am lucky enough to have done my time and got out relatively unscathed. Be safe my brother/sister.
IronKaz, I hear you and I support local police 100%. However, some places have better police forces than others. I have a close friend and fellow SHU alum who lives close to Minneapolis who told me that for years the police there have been known to him as “arrogant” and have an “overall bad attitude. The St. Paul police are much better.” So these aren’t just “bad apples”, they are part of a bad system. We will always have the bad apples in any situation and that will never be eradicated, but what do you do with a police force that’s known not to respect it’s citizens as a whole? Unfortunately the current situation will never change in those places that harbor such a culture and that’s a very sad state of affairs for our country as a whole. I wish I could think of a possible solution for that.
Crying shame that a standing military outfitted like they're in an Avengers movie goes in, escalates what always starts as a peaceful situation time & time again, and wouldn't you know it...people react with the same force they're given initially! Funny about that huh? Sucks when people finally fight back as a large enough group that you can't stop them all, right?
Cops don't like getting some action thrown their way? Don't be a cop. It's part of your job. Despite your little frat's little tagline, I DON'T pay you to make sure you go home safe every night. I pay you to make sure WE can all go home safe. This is what you all signed up for. To protect & serve US, not yourselves. Don't like it, go quit instead of trotting out all your little PBA heads/spokespeople etc to cry about it.
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You've got some serious underlying issues, probably from being bullied in school or something.
And now you know why I laugh everytime I post something and he tells people to avoid "the vortex." We just lost to Oregon in the worst way possible. There's nothing positive about it. We just got destroyed by RU and we lost Powell, the season is in turmoil, you're entering the vortex if you enage in conversation with anyone who has an original thought that a game in November or December won't define the season.
Big time. His heart is so full of hate and intolerance. Really a shame a human being could be so hateful. I hope he gets the help he needs.
All he really has is to call everyone that doesn’t agree with him a racist.
i dont think bobbiesolos point is entirely void of value. the first response was mocking if he got bullied as a kid, which imo is a serious issue that goes on in america today. funny enough there has always been a stigma that those bullies are often associated with the types of "bad apples" you see in the police force. from the countless videos ive seen in the past weeks its clear the power of being a policeman attracks the bully type. people who get off on power. theres no doubting that. law enforcement needs to do a better job weeding out those people. maybe he did get bullied.
also funny how another comment is calling him full of intolerance, which is exactly the subject at hand. i dont think bobbie is acting anything similar to the intolerant people who are being protested against these past few weeks.
there is a lot of merit on both sides of the coin. instead of freaking out when your side gets criticized maybe try to listen. you cant disagree with the fact our army is outfitted eat more aggressively than any other nation. you cant disagree that a many peaceful protesters arrested because they tried to defend themselves with as much force as they are initially given by police (seen below). you cant disagree that if there are too many cases caught on film of police abuse in just ONE WEEK that there must be much more happening off camera during the entire year.
im not agreeing with bobbie as much as i am pointing out why he might feel that way.
also funny how another comment is calling him full of intolerance, which is exactly the subject at hand. i dont think bobbie is acting anything similar to the intolerant people who are being protested against these past few weeks.
there is a lot of merit on both sides of the coin. instead of freaking out when your side gets criticized maybe try to listen. you cant disagree with the fact our army is outfitted eat more aggressively than any other nation. you cant disagree that a many peaceful protesters arrested because they tried to defend themselves with as much force as they are initially given by police (seen below). you cant disagree that if there are too many cases caught on film of police abuse in just ONE WEEK that there must be much more happening off camera during the entire year.
im not agreeing with bobbie as much as i am pointing out why he might feel that way.
Interesting videos. Why didn't the protesters walk out to the right side of the street in the first video? Instead they kept streaming in. I don't see any groping in the second video, I see a woman resisting arrest and other officers using excessive and unnecessary force by beating her.
I suppose this is nitpicky, but I feel like cops that are adhering to the blue code of silence (whether in the moment like w/George Floyd or not speaking up behind the scenes either) & thereby complicit as you said....are then decideldy NOT "good police". Doing nothing to affect change in a horrendously corrupt system like the modern U.S. police state makes you part of the problem, even as a bystander. None of them are innocent...putting in your 20 & doing nothing to help just makes you a cog in the broken wheel. This is where something like ACAB comes from. Not getting a thrill from cracking skulls is not enough.
If people are that upset with the way police do their jobs, why aren't people signing up to be part of the chage? Are there barriers to entry that I'm not aware of? If I remember correctly after 9-11, people were pissed and signed up for the military because they wanted to make a difference. It seems like everyone thinks we need to talk about change but when it comes to being part of the change, everybody wants out.
As I said in another thread; policing is a local issue. There are 20,000 police forces in the U.S., and to think they all operate the same in any systemic or organized way would be naïve to say the least. I heard an interview on Tuesday of the new police commissioner in Minneapolis (who is African-American and hired to fix the problems in the force), and it was about an honest and forthright conversation as you will hear. Minneapolis has a problem; it's their job to deal with what their constituents want. I will defer to them. But if my community is attracting LEO talent and showing good leadership, why does that not get attention or who am I to say what Minneapolis should do?
Reasons people dont want to be cops, entry level compensation, societal issues etc, i am sure its very convenient to lets pick an affluent area of NJ ie holmdel, rumson, alpine to be a local cop at a sgt or lt level based on tenure getting 120k base to basically write speeding tickets because you are assigned a speed trap zone where mostly upper middle class caucasians live and dont mind mailing in the ticket payment it is a small price to pay for their lifestyle and luxury car vs being on patrol in newark ac, paterson where you are already feared and targeted because of what society is
its right before she broke free. but hey sounds like you like turning a blind eye to everything. not saying it was on purpose but it didnt make her act deserve what she got.
she wasnt resisiting anything but the over use of force. this is easily showcased by the fact she literally stands there, not running away, not resisting, as multiple police officers beat the $h*t out of her with batons. im guessing they didnt give her a reason for the initial restraint. (sort of like that case in nj we just heard about).
i hear police yell hit her hit her, then you see the same knee on her like chauvin did... which i just discovered now. you think people would try to avoid that position.
additionally you also seemed to ignore the other lady doing literally nothing and gets SHOVED to the ground and swarmed by 4 cops. she was doing nothing. you like to bully people and shove them to the ground for standing there?
this stuff exists man, its an issue. i think police are absolutely necessary but there is def a big problem.
What was so glorious of joining the military for this country in 2001? Was pay that great? Was there little risk? People ran to their local military office to sign up willing to die for this country because what they saw was something or worth dying for. Wouldn’t the greatest way honor George Floyd be to make get your hands dirty and join the police force and be part of ending the problem once and for all? Or is it better to just tear down statues, take over city blocks, throw stuff at police, etc? It seems everyone has the answers from the confines of their home or walking in a large group with signs but no one is willing to put in the real grunt work to make change happen. Talking the talk means nothing until they walk the walk.
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For the majority of these protesters every problem in their life has been someone elses fault. All you have to do is read Bobbie Solo posts, nothing could be the fault of the black community, and everything falls on the hands of white people, who weren't even alive when the atrocities of slavery occurred. If you're a white person whose not an activist promoting the BLM agenda and calling for the end (as well as death) to police, than you're just a piece of shit person complicit to slabery whose white priviledge has allowed you an easy life on the backs of the black community. You must realize you're not dealing with reasonable people, their looting and violence has proven that.
You need to look up the definition of resisting arrest. This woman was being arrested and broke free. That is resisting arrest.
Some people go through life angry without taking any personal responsibility. Others see hope, act on and participate in the solutions.
This is what happens when a generation is raised by dividing people along racial, economic and class lines, is told America sucks, everyone gets a trophy and anything that goes wrong is someone else's fault, you should sue them!
Ok it is obvious you are against african americans and other minorities at this point. Perhaps we should refer to you as Archie going forward.
In NJ there are three different types of Resisting Arrest
1 - Passive resistance. That is when you are not fighting, you are just not cooperating. Ex laying on your hands and refuse to get handcuffed or just standing still ignoring the officers lawful commands
2 - Resisting by flight. Just as it sounds, running away.
3 - Resistance by force or threat of force.
It’s kind of funny he doesn’t offer a solution to anything. He just looks to throw gas on the fire. Over the last 3 weeks there’s probably been 50,000 incidents of good policing but he’ll post a Twitter all 100 bad episodes.
That's all these people do. All talk, no action. If you don't conform to their views, they insult you. They are not interested in dialogue or change. They are only interested in furthering their own agenda.
