Harris

[cernjSHU]

Oh you know everyone's intentions. Great. Even the most liberal outlets talk about the Minnesota Freedom Fund bailing out Jaleel Stallings who was charged with attempted murder, plus they bailed out a woman accused of killing a friend and also a convicted rapist.

Stallings was acquitted at trial and an Army vet. The other two were not bailed out for rape and murder but after they were bailed out, they committed the crimes.

Fact Check: Did Kamala Harris Back Bail Fund For "Murderers And Rapists"?

The Vice President has denied "misinformation" surrounding her support of the Minnesota Freedom Fund

www.newsweek.com

The other people you talk about were released by the fund after the George Floyd protests https://nypost.com/2024/08/22/us-news/kamala-harris-backed-bail-funds-fails-continue/

 

[PiratePride]

Stallings was acquitted at trial and an Army vet. The other two were not bailed out for rape and murder but after they were bailed out, they committed the crimes.

Fact Check: Did Kamala Harris Back Bail Fund For "Murderers And Rapists"?

The Vice President has denied "misinformation" surrounding her support of the Minnesota Freedom Fund

www.newsweek.com

The other people you talk about were released by the fund after the George Floyd protests https://nypost.com/2024/08/22/us-news/kamala-harris-backed-bail-funds-fails-continue/

she did encourage people to donate to the bail out fund. She was sympathetic to the rioters. The general mantra at the time was that their "rage" justified their actions.

From Sacramento Bee article FEBRUARY 18, 2021

Two days later she tweeted “If you’re able to, chip in now to the @MNFreedomFund to help post bail for those protesting on the ground in Minnesota.”

Read more at: https://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/article249293135.html#storylink=cpy

 

[Robot_Man]

Remember when Harris promised to turn down the rhetoric after Trump came within inches of being assassinated?

As shameful as this is, it’s the most surefire sign her campaign knows they’re on a sinking ship. The desperation reeks.

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"Why won't she turn down the rhetoric?" Are you for real?





Speaking of desperation, why did Donald Trump come crawling back to Twitter anyway?

 

[SOpirate]

"Why won't she turn down the rhetoric?" Are you for real?

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Speaking of desperation, why did Donald Trump come crawling back to Twitter anyway?

Let us know when a bullet comes within an inch of taking Harris’ life. Trump should turn down the rhetoric as well, but Harris knows exactly what she’s doing by using the same rhetoric that led up to the assasination attempt against Trump.

What will it take for her to drop the “Trump is a threat to democracy” BS? An actual assassination?

 

[SHUHoopsFan]

Let us know when a bullet comes within an inch of taking Harris’ life. Trump should turn down the rhetoric as well, but Harris knows exactly what she’s doing by using the same rhetoric that led up to the assasination attempt against Trump.

What will it take for her to drop the “Trump is a threat to democracy” BS? An actual assassination?

Congressman blasts FBI for releasing Thomas Crooks’ body for cremation days after Trump shooting: ‘Unheard of’

The four-term congressman said he wanted to examine the body to know 100% if the coroner’s report and autopsy were accurate.

nypost.com

No answers and some odd doings by the FBI with the crime scene and releasing the body so quickly to the family.

 

[SHUSA]

"Why won't she turn down the rhetoric?" Are you for real?

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Speaking of desperation, why did Donald Trump come crawling back to Twitter anyway?

did you see the mailers Trump groups are sending out. legit fraud. mail that says their medicare is cancelled and harris/biden doing it. funny because i thought it was the anti communist GOP that wants to cut every govt program possible. anyway that's an outrageous move

 

[shu09]

did you see the mailers Trump groups are sending out. legit fraud. mail that says their medicare is cancelled and harris/biden doing it. funny because i thought it was the anti communist GOP that wants to cut every govt program possible. anyway that's an outrageous move

GOP does not want to cut every govt program, just flat out lies and left wing talking points. Should each program be examined and reformed? Absolutely.

 

[SHUSA]

GOP does not want to cut every govt program, just flat out lies and left wing talking points. Should each program be examined and reformed? Absolutely.

is it another incorrect talking point like trump dodged the draft and called dead soldiers losers. stupid talking points my bad.

and about those mailers...

 

[SHUHoopsFan]

is it another incorrect talking point like trump dodged the draft and called dead soldiers losers. stupid talking points my bad.

and about those mailers...

Incorrect talking points are only one side.

 

[Merge]

Let us know when a bullet comes within an inch of taking Harris’ life. Trump should turn down the rhetoric as well, but Harris knows exactly what she’s doing by using the same rhetoric that led up to the assasination attempt against Trump.

What will it take for her to drop the “Trump is a threat to democracy” BS? An actual assassination?

I was hopeful he would use the experience of almost being killed abandon his divisive rhetoric and unite people. Seemed to be heading that way but was abandoned quickly.

He could have owned the “let’s tone down the divisiveness” message. It’s just not in him though. Divisive as ever and it will only get worse.

Harris campaign is also incompetent though, and you’re right that there should be no dangerous rhetoric from her.

 

[Merge]

No answers and some odd doings by the FBI with the crime scene and releasing the body so quickly to the family.

Seems like a bunch of nonsense to be honest.
Why would a member of congress examine the body? Is that normal?
Is 10 days not enough time? What would be?
Do you really think the FBI doesn’t clean up crime scenes? (They do)

 

[SHUHoopsFan]

Seems like a bunch of nonsense to be honest.
Why would a member of congress examine the body? Is that normal?
Is 10 days not enough time? What would be?
Do you really think the FBI doesn’t clean up crime scenes? (They do)

We literally have nothing on this case. Everything should still be on the table. Don’t you agree or is giving the old college try enough? Can’t find something in 10 days on an assassination attempt of a former president time to clean up and move on.

 

[Robot_Man]

Let us know when a bullet comes within an inch of taking Harris’ life. Trump should turn down the rhetoric as well, but Harris knows exactly what she’s doing by using the same rhetoric that led up to the assasination attempt against Trump.

What will it take for her to drop the “Trump is a threat to democracy” BS? An actual assassination?

The "same rhetoric that led up to the assassination attempt against Trump" - where are you getting this? An FBI special agent speaking about the investigation said, "We've seen no definitive ideology associated with our subject, either left-leaning or right-leaning. It's really been a mixture and something that we're still attempting to analyze and draw conclusions on."

In the month before the attack, he conducted more than 60 searches related to Trump and Biden, including their campaign events. It sure seems like the shooter was going to try to kill whichever candidate spoke in western Pennsylvania first, and that happened to be Trump.

 

[Merge]

We literally have nothing on this case. Everything should still be on the table. Don’t you agree or is giving the old college try enough? Can’t find something in 10 days on an assassination attempt of a former president time to clean up and move on.

How long are bodies typically kept to investigate? Why do you believe 10 days is not sufficient?

It seems that this story is just trying to make people believe the FBI is corrupt by claiming things that were normal are crazy.
Members of congress don’t examine dead bodies, the FBI does clean up crime scenes and 10 days is likely sufficient to examine a body.

 

[PiratePride]

How long are bodies typically kept to investigate? Why do you believe 10 days is not sufficient?

It seems that this story is just trying to make people believe the FBI is corrupt by claiming things that were normal are crazy.
Members of congress don’t examine dead bodies, the FBI does clean up crime scenes and 10 days is likely sufficient to examine a body.

I'd like to know about his encrypted messages on overseas servers. These unanswered questions just naturally raise questions.

 

[SHUHoopsFan]

How long are bodies typically kept to investigate? Why do you believe 10 days is not sufficient?

It seems that this story is just trying to make people believe the FBI is corrupt by claiming things that were normal are crazy.
Members of congress don’t examine dead bodies, the FBI does clean up crime scenes and 10 days is likely sufficient to examine a body.

Why does everything need to be cookie cutter? We reached 10 days what’s so magical about that number. I’d bet in most cases we probably do have enough info in 10 days but in this case we had nothing. Why not preserve as long as possible to give investigators as much time as possible. Right now we’re on day 50 of knowing very little about an assassination attempt.

Add to it that nobody who spoke to Congress knew their ass from their elbow. Amazing the secret service director said the slope of the roof was too dangerous to stand on but now we can have FBI agents cleaning it. To think how much more dangerous it could have been with cleaning products and I believe hosing it down.

 

[SHallguy2]

I was hopeful he would use the experience of almost being killed abandon his divisive rhetoric and unite people. Seemed to be heading that way but was abandoned quickly.

He could have owned the “let’s tone down the divisiveness” message. It’s just not in him though. Divisive as ever and it will only get worse.

Harris campaign is also incompetent though, and you’re right that there should be no dangerous rhetoric from her.

We’ve been heading down a bad road for so long no one knows how to stop. I’ve been out in public places and actually heard people say they wished Trump had been killed. Curious to watch the Vance Walz debate, hopeful it might be about the issues and differences. Hard to talk to people on either side who don’t see the big picture.

 

[cernjSHU]

Congressman blasts FBI for releasing Thomas Crooks’ body for cremation days after Trump shooting: ‘Unheard of’

The four-term congressman said he wanted to examine the body to know 100% if the coroner’s report and autopsy were accurate.

nypost.com

No answers and some odd doings by the FBI with the crime scene and releasing the body so quickly to the family.

Congressman Higgins is clearly an idiot. He is just grandstanding to rile up, no offense, people like you into thinking that there was a coverup or incompetence on their part. The body is to be preserved and examined u til there is an autopsy which determines cause of death and what was in his blood. Pictures are taken during the autopsy as well to document the findings in every aspect from head to toe.

Unfortunately, we have rags that allow this to be printed which is absolutely nonsense. Perhaps you should question why would anyone give this Bozo access to the body?

 

[SHUHoopsFan]

Congressman Higgins is clearly an idiot. He is just grandstanding to rile up, no offense, people like you into thinking that there was a coverup or incompetence on their part. The body is to be preserved and examined u til there is an autopsy which determines cause of death and what was in his blood. Pictures are taken during the autopsy as well to document the findings in every aspect from head to toe.

Unfortunately, we have rags that allow this to be printed which is absolutely nonsense. Perhaps you should question why would anyone give this Bozo access to the body?

No the lack of answering questions at the hearings is what leads people to thinking there was a cover up.

 

[SOpirate]

The "same rhetoric that led up to the assassination attempt against Trump" - where are you getting this? An FBI special agent speaking about the investigation said, "We've seen no definitive ideology associated with our subject, either left-leaning or right-leaning. It's really been a mixture and something that we're still attempting to analyze and draw conclusions on."

In the month before the attack, he conducted more than 60 searches related to Trump and Biden, including their campaign events. It sure seems like the shooter was going to try to kill whichever candidate spoke in western Pennsylvania first, and that happened to be Trump.

I don’t understand why it’s so hard for you to comprehend that you shouldn’t call your political opponents dictators. Ditto for Trump’s rhetoric about Harris. With the amount of mentally unstable people in this country politicians shouldn’t be giving anyone fuel.

 

[Merge]

I don’t understand why it’s so hard for you to comprehend that you shouldn’t call your political opponents dictators. Ditto for Trump’s rhetoric about Harris. With the amount of mentally unstable people in this country politicians shouldn’t be giving anyone fuel.

Exactly. I'm not sure why either side doesn't see that a "we need to tone down the rhetoric" position would be a winner this cycle.

Either of them saying that they recognize that it has gone too far and they will do better and focus on policy, would go a long way with people in the middle.

Lex Friedman has his podcast with Trump coming out today. That interview was a good opportunity for Trump to start. We'll see.

 

[SOpirate]

Exactly. I'm not sure why either side doesn't see that a "we need to tone down the rhetoric" position would be a winner this cycle.

Either of them saying that they recognize that it has gone too far and they will do better and focus on policy, would go a long way with people in the middle.

Lex Friedman has his podcast with Trump coming out today. That interview was a good opportunity for Trump to start. We'll see.

It’s about money IMO.

Both sides are afraid of looking “weak” to their base. It’s the small but vocal group of partisans on each side that provide most of the fundraising support. The best way to get those people to donate is by stoking their fears of a “dictatorship” or “migrant invasion” etc.

 

[cernjSHU]

I don’t understand why it’s so hard for you to comprehend that you shouldn’t call your political opponents dictators. Ditto for Trump’s rhetoric about Harris. With the amount of mentally unstable people in this country politicians shouldn’t be giving anyone fuel.

Maybe Trump is called a dictator by his words and actions. Namely, he said, he wants to be dictator for a day. Perhaps it’s his actions and inactions during an insurrection. Perhaps his glorification of dictators around the world is a reason. It is not said out of thin air.

 

[SOpirate]

Maybe Trump is called a dictator by his words and actions. Namely, he said, he wants to be dictator for a day. Perhaps it’s his actions and inactions during an insurrection. Perhaps his glorification of dictators around the world is a reason. It is not said out of thin air.

If you can’t acknowledge that this comment was made in jest then there is zero point in having a rational discussion with you.

Poor choice of words, yes. But it is obvious he is referring to use of executive action to

1. Close the border.
2. Boost the American energy sector.

 

[SPK145]

Maybe Trump is called a dictator by his words and actions. Namely, he said, he wants to be dictator for a day. Perhaps it’s his actions and inactions during an insurrection. Perhaps his glorification of dictators around the world is a reason. It is not said out of thin air.

As noted above, he was talking about 2 executive actions on his first day. Harris has stated she would do the same. All executive actions are dictatorial and should be abolished.

 

[HALL85]

Zuckerberg publicly states that the Biden administration pressured them to suppress information on the pandemic and laptop three years ago, but Trump is the dictator…got it.

 

[cernjSHU]

If you can’t acknowledge that this comment was made in jest then there is zero point in having a rational discussion with you.

Poor choice of words, yes. But it is obvious he is referring to use of executive action to

1. Close the border.
2. Boost the American energy sector.

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Let’s just excuse him for everything he said. What about when he said the Constitution should be suspended? How many times do you have to excuse his words? Second of all, boost the American energy sector? lol government does not drill. Private companies do. Second, under Biden, the country has produced more oil in the past two years than ever was done under Trump.

You then Ignore all my other factors of why his called a dictator.

 

[cernjSHU]

Zuckerberg publicly states that the Biden administration pressured them to suppress information on the pandemic and laptop three years ago, but Trump is the dictator…got it.

Oh watching the Republican D-bag videos and stealing his tag line?

Hmm, suspending the constitution or trying to stop disinformation. What about Trump wanting to jail members of the press? Can you ever just criticize and say Trump is wrong. You just walk lock step with everything or mostly everything he does.

 

[Merge]

Hmm, suspending the constitution or trying to stop disinformation. What about Trump wanting to jail members of the press?

Trump also signed an executive order going after social media companies after he got fact checked by Twitter. Neither side is winning a free speech award here, and he was clearly vindictive.

https://www.npr.org/2020/05/28/863932758/stung-by-twitter-trump-signs-executive-order-to-weaken-social-media-companies

 

[HALL85]

Oh watching the Republican D-bag videos and stealing his tag line?

Hmm, suspending the constitution or trying to stop disinformation. What about Trump wanting to jail members of the press? Can you ever just criticize and say Trump is wrong. You just walk lock step with everything or mostly everything he does.

I’ve been critical of Trump often and I never voted for him. Trump is wrong a lot, but be honest because all of the nonsense talking points are just that.

 

[SPK145]

Hmm, suspending the constitution

Must have learned that from Abraham Lincoln.

 

[cernjSHU]

Must have learned that from Abraham Lincoln.

lol. That is a fair comparison. Lincoln suspending the writ of habeas corpus with Trump wanting to actually "terminate" the constitution for what?????? oh yeah -losing the election.

I know you are kidding but just to clarify. the right to suspend the writ of habeas corpus is actually within the Constitution. The Constitution provided the that the write may be suspended in cases of rebellion.

 

[SOpirate]

Let’s just excuse him for everything he said. What about when he said the Constitution should be suspended? How many times do you have to excuse his words? Second of all, boost the American energy sector? lol government does not drill. Private companies do. Second, under Biden, the country has produced more oil in the past two years than ever was done under Trump.

You then Ignore all my other factors of why his called a dictator.

Two very simple questions for you.

1. Do you really believe Donald Trump will be America’s version of Stalin, Mussolini, Mao, etc?
2. Are you denying that using this type of language can lead to political violence?

Because that’s exactly what Harris is insinuating when she uses the word Dictator. I truly can’t believe any rational person could endorse that, especially after the assasination attempts on Trump and Steve Scalise in recent years.

 

[SPK145]

lol. That is a fair comparison. Lincoln suspending the writ of habeas corpus with Trump wanting to actually "terminate" the constitution for what?????? oh yeah -losing the election.

I know you are kidding but just to clarify. the right to suspend the writ of habeas corpus is actually within the Constitution. The Constitution provided the that the write may be suspended in cases of rebellion.

President Abraham Lincoln suspended the privilege on his own motion in the early Civil War period, but this met with such opposition that he sought and received congressional authorization.

Back then, congress had a backbone and actually did something.

 

[SHallguy2]

I don’t understand why it’s so hard for you to comprehend that you shouldn’t call your political opponents dictators. Ditto for Trump’s rhetoric about Harris. With the amount of mentally unstable people in this country politicians shouldn’t be giving anyone fuel.

The dictator comments are Hilarious when you consider for a moment the first dictator Mussolini. He was a newspaper media guy and controlled how people would think. Sounds a little like today censorship, indoctrinating children, undermining judges, controlling the media. Biden/Harris are absolutely fascist and even trump to a degree except he's not indoctrinating children or involved in censorship but you could absolutely make a case for controlling the media and judges. From google below.

"But in the world of twentieth century dictators, Benito Mussolini was a pioneer. He created fascism, a movement that would plunge most of Europe into darkness. From undermining judges to indoctrinating children, he pioneered key tactics that other dictators would use to seize power."

A basic slogan in Fascist Italy proclaimed that Mussolini was "always right" (Italian: Il Duce ha sempre ragione).
His government expelled all opposition, including Socialist members and arrested all Communist members of Parliament.

"In Italy, freedom of the press is guaranteed by the Constitution of 1948. This freedom was specifically established in response to the censorship which occurred during the fascist regime of Benito Mussolini (1922–1943). Censorship continues to be an issue of debate in the modern era."

Fascism rejects assertions that violence is inherently negative or pointless, instead viewing imperialism, political violence, and war as means to national rejuvenation.[11][12] Fascists often advocate for the establishment of a totalitarian one-party state,[13][14] and for a dirigiste[15][16] economy (a market economy in which the state plays a strong directive role through economic interventionist policies), with the principal goal of achieving autarky (national economic self-sufficiency).

 

[cernjSHU]

Two very simple questions for you.

1. Do you really believe Donald Trump will be America’s version of Stalin, Mussolini, Mao, etc?
2. Are you denying that using this type of language can lead to political violence?

Because that’s exactly what Harris is insinuating when she uses the word Dictator. I truly can’t believe any rational person could endorse that, especially after the assasination attempts on Trump and Steve Scalise in recent years.

You guys really are funny. A few years ago when a guy named Obama was President, the Republicans were calling Obama no other than - Hitler. Obama was also displayed as the Joker. But, I am pretty sure you had no issue with those images and Obama being called that.

 

[SHallguy2]

You guys really are funny. A few years ago when a guy named Obama was President, the Republicans were calling Obama no other than - Hitler. Obama was also displayed as the Joker. But, I am pretty sure you had no issue with those images and Obama being called that.

Hitler would be proud, all American Presidents being compared to him. Have to admit a lot of similarities of our political climate to fascism.

 

[SHUMatt]

An American hostage is executed in a Tunnel under Palestine by the terrorist group Hamas.
Today protesters are walking the streets of NYC waving a Hamas flag. Biden vacations on the beach, Harris ignores the press and Walz waves off a reporters question. These people simply don’t care.

 

[SHUHoopsFan]

An American hostage is executed in a Tunnel under Palestine by the terrorist group Hamas.
Today protesters are walking the streets of NYC waving a Hamas flag. Biden vacations on the beach, Harris ignores the press and Walz waves off a reporters question. These people simply don’t care.

I think if they were able to get this under control, Harris would win in a landslide. Unfortunately at some point she’s going to have to answer about these actions without talking of ideals of being against antisemitism but also for Palestine. She needs to grow her base because she’s either going to lose pro Israel voters or the far left when she has to talk about specific situations like the one you mentioned.

 

[SHUMatt]

I think if they were able to get this under control, Harris would win in a landslide. Unfortunately at some point she’s going to have to answer about these actions without talking of ideals of being against antisemitism but also for Palestine. She needs to grow her base because she’s either going to lose pro Israel voters or the far left when she has to talk about specific situations like the one you mentioned.

To see Waltz just blow off the reporter’s question and walk away was sickening. If I saw someone on the right blow off a question like that I would say the same thing.