I'm the worst fan at games but?

[setonball46]

Why does no one cheer do anything?

I mean I may be annoying to some but I just don't get it? Did anyone see the cintas center last night? The sixth man is real and we give these guys nothing.

Call me embarrassed

 

[pirated]

Hall's got the worst fans. Huge game, ncaa implications and we can't fill up 9800 seats. We're a pathetic fan base.

 

[setonball46]

I just don't get it I stand all game I suck I know no one cares...lets stand

 

[The Crows Nest]

I just don't get it I stand all game I suck I know no one cares...lets stand

Yeah I'm a little surprised that this area has not responded to this team. Especially since, at this time of year... Do not have much in the way of competition, ie no football or baseball.

Let's hope it's jammed Sunday

 

[setonball46]

It's not the number it's the enthusiasm

 

[SHUSource]

Ten years of bitter disappointment will do that to a base that expects better.

 

[Shugrad95]

And people wonder why SH has a ruff time landing top recruits. Why come to SHU when they could go to a school that sells out every game. Sorry, 1st post but long time fan and forum reader.

 

[setonball46]

I sit here every game and no one cares- Donnie even you know this is absurd

 

[JTSHU]

I've been going to years and the fans tell you to sit down. For the cost of parking, tickets and food its not a fun experience

 

[sportsfantatic44]

I don't think the casual fan wants to go to Newark. Newark has a bad wrap even though I never feel unsafe when I go to the Rock.

 

[setonball46]

Again it's not even the numbers, we just handled providence and the place was dead.

 

[catholicman]

We are not getting much attention from the Metro area sports media. Once the attention comes, I think we will get more fans. But I hope the team will be able to handle the media attention. We are having a great season, but somehow are flying under the radar. If we win Sunday, there is going to be a lot more excitement.

 

[setonball46]

It's more our fans the ones I love and no don't want to getup ever this team needed 6th man to day and we didn't have that

 

[catholicman]

It's more our fans the ones I love and no don't want to getup ever this team needed 6th man to day and we didn't have that

It is upsetting. Let's hope for a better turnout on Sunday.

 

[mjs428]

It looked dead on TV too

 

[HallB]

Watching on tv, I said about 4 times, let's go fans, get in the game!!!!! The Hall fans, the team, the coaches, and anyone connected to SHU is playing with house money on Sunday, come to the game, get loud, get weird, WE HAVE A VERY GOOD TEAM FOR ONCE, YOU'VE WAITED TEN YEARS FOR THIS, GET OFF YOUR BUTTS!!!!!!!!!!! These are the times I miss not living in the area.

 

[SHUMikechine]

I didn't think it was that bad.

 

[shupat08]

No students for Sunday. Place will be dead.

 

[Piratz]

It's going to take a bit of winning, guys. We've been down a looooong time.

 

[SHUmash90]

Well. I just got back and don't see it like you all. I thought the crowd was really good. It got pretty loud. And btw, there are about only 600 seats still avail for Sunday. May be a sell out or close to it.

 

[SHUHoopsFan]

It's going to take a bit of winning, guys. We've been down a looooong time.

Dont we have people that do marketing for the game? Do they just hope the 1,500 unsold tickets will get sold? Or do they just say it takes winning to market this team? I wish we would offer incoming freshmen a chance to buy discounted tickets. Let them come, experience a game. Maybe they will enjoy themselves and want to come to games next year. Plus you would know the seats are being filled with SHU fans.

 

[halltheway]

If you are a true fan, like many of us, we will continue to support our team... but this year it's a hell of a lot more fun!

 

[HallLine69]

On TV the crowd seemed energetic and made a good amount of noise.

 

[SHUisNJsTeam]

There are less than 800 tickets left for Sunday. The place will be packed!

 

[General_Tso]

There are less than 800 tickets left for Sunday. The place will be packed!

Student Section will be empty.

 

[Shuathelete]

i absolutely hate how embarrassed i feel when i try to stand up and cheer or heckle as much as i can. i feel like im naked. getting a group cheer started is like turning water into wine. but its not gonna stop me. ive had fans tell me to quit it before. insane. just insane.

 

[Shuathelete]

Dont we have people that do marketing for the game? Do they just hope the 1,500 unsold tickets will get sold? Or do they just say it takes winning to market this team? I wish we would offer incoming freshmen a chance to buy discounted tickets. Let them come, experience a game. Maybe they will enjoy themselves and want to come to games next year. Plus you would know the seats are being filled with SHU fans.

didnt you witness how great under the sea night worked?? of course we have a marketing dept LOL

 

[VioletPirate]

i absolutely hate how embarrassed i feel when i try to stand up and cheer or heckle as much as i can. i feel like im naked. getting a group cheer started is like turning water into wine. but its not gonna stop me. ive had fans tell me to quit it before. insane. just insane.

Amen brotha. I feel like I could write the same post from section 7.

 

[Seton75]

Ten years of bitter disappointment will do that to a base that expects better.

Imo that is an easy excuse. The play of these kids has been terrific for some time but the fans ignore. I was as pissed as anyone. But I don't see how these kids don't win over more shu fans. All you have to do is watch.

We usually stink. Expect better? We had a disgraceful stint with bg and that group got more support.

 

[Proff Ed]

Perception is interesting. I thought it wa a great crowd and my wife at home said the crowd looked great on TV.

 

[SHUSource]

Imo that is an easy excuse. The play of these kids has been terrific for some time but the fans ignore. I was as pissed as anyone. But I don't see how these kids don't win over more shu fans. All you have to do is watch.

We usually stink. Expect better? We had a disgraceful stint with bg and that group got more support.

I don't think we can use the group of posters here as a representative group, though. If you are even a semi-regular poster here, you are likely much more engaged and informed with the team than the vast, vast majority of our alumni, students and fans. So developments and progress in the team is met in virtually real time by this group.

But the posters on this board represent such a small fraction of people who go (or potentially could go) to our games, even the ones who identify as active Seton Hall fans. If you're not engaging with the team via an online community like this, you are (in many cases) already one step removed from the day to day progress of the team, and I think your response time to progress has a bit of a lag. And then, as you keep moving out, ring by ring, to the layers of fans who are less and less engaged (or more and more casual), the team's visibility decreases, the motivation to go to games is less (because they are not as informed), and the result is seen in attendance.

That that to the people are do go and are aware, but still embrace that show-me attitude, which is fostered by a decade of sheer futility) and I think you get the conditions we see here.

Consumers, by and large, take a long time to adopt products. Our products has not been worth watching for a decade, and right now, until it appears in the consciousness of more consumers, they just don't notice until something big happens - such as an NCAA Tournament run. Making it would be nice, because it's harder to not notice. Win a game or two, and you'll see a big uptick in attendance next year, even if (just for example) the product is not as good.

We're the "early adopters" here. Most are not. It takes time to develop that awareness among consumers.

 

[SHUSource]

Perception is interesting. I thought it wa a great crowd and my wife at home said the crowd looked great on TV.

For what it's worth, the crowd represented very nicely on TV. It seemed like a great crowd.

 

[SHallguy2]

I hate to be a bearer of bad news but the marketing of SHU Basketball is really bad. I'm not sure where it starts but there is a dis-connect between ticket office and marketing dept. I wish I had more time to help these guys out but no reason not to fill 9800 seats with this team and a beautiful arena. A fan of just under 50 years here and I'm amazed at my conversations with the ticket office, left hand doesn't know what right hand is doing. No reason why the seats behind the basket are empty, start some reading programs at local schools rewarding kids for work at school. Give-a-way seats to YMCA basketball programs. No reason not to comp 1000 tickets a game when seats are empty. I'm thinking no season ticket holder would object to seeing van loads of young people coming to games for free.

 

[PiratePride]

I thought the crowd was pretty energetic & the students were into it.
I wish people would get out of their seats more, though. I'm a an out of my seat jumper... pumping fists with my seat mates after almost every basket...... I don't get why people don't show their enthusiasm... I think it's a New York area thing.... sophistication and all that.....

very Off Topic... but I've been wondering this all season.... who picked the band's shirts this year?...... the white t-shirt look... vey unflattering... they should wear the surfer type shirt that Debbie Sfara (sp?) wore for the rest of the season.

GO Pirates........ X 'em out

OK, Xavier fans are great we all agree... but I'm getting annoyed at the "X" sign they all make.. all the time

 

[setonball46]

Its not that there weren't butts in the seats there were . My big issue is that people are sitting not really even cheering for 80-90% of the game. Biggest example. Were up 19-20 and as the 6th man we can empower the team in those situations to stomp on the other teams necks! Instead Providence started to roar back and in those moments we should be standing cheering etc. None of that happened.

I can't tell you how many games Kansas Players would attribute W's to their fans. We will never be there but we could sure equal what was going on in the Cintas Center Wed.

Lets be loud and proud on Sunday, sitting or standing.

 

[hallgrad80]

While in an ideal world you would want every SH fan at a game to be fully engaged, loud, raucous , out of his seat and creating a hostile environment for a visiting team , that's not the reality at the Rock for SH . For me the most important element is that a SH fan takes the time to go to a game, pay for his ticket , root for the Pirates in the way he or she is most comfortable and the simple fact that they show up is important and should be appreciated.

 

[HallB]

While this is a relatively small sampling of Pirate fans, there is no reason why each and every one of these posters can't start the momentum for the rest of the folks in their section. We have a legit number one seed coming to town on Sunday, so who cares if you feel alone, just do it. The fans need to be in this game starting in warmups, and if they aren't, that's their problem. And please please please, the 50 yard line seats, please get to your seats by opening tip. Half the seats are empty for the first two minutes of each half which is just annoying. Even more annoying is that there are good number of those seats empty all game. If you have those seats, GIVE THEM AWAY TO SOMEONE WHO CAN MAKE IT!!!!!

The bar was set by the X fans this past Wednesday, we need to match that intensity. This is the biggest Pirate game in over a decade! Probably since Pitt in 2004.

Damn, I'm jacked up for this one!!!!

 

[lloyde dobler]

First of all, it's really tough to get people to buy into a team -- any team -- in this market. It's hard to compare SHU crowds to crowds in other cities, because the the fan mentalities are so different for a variety of reasons.

Secondly, I've never fully believed in the we should give thousands of tickets away to groups argument, but not for the reason you think... The idea of filling the seats that way IS fine, but just because you offer the seats, don't automatically believe there will be takers. It takes an effort to organize a group outing like that, and you can't just assume people will organize a trip even though the tickets are free. Again, I'm not saying Seton Hall shouldn't do it, I'm just saying it's an overly simplistic idea to boost attendance. Just because we'd jump on it doesn't mean others would.

 

[Shuathelete]

First of all, it's really tough to get people to buy into a team -- any team -- in this market. It's hard to compare SHU crowds to crowds in other cities, because the the fan mentalities are so different for a variety of reasons.

Secondly, I've never fully believed in the we should give thousands of tickets away to groups argument, but not for the reason you think... The idea of filling the seats that way IS fine, but just because you offer the seats, don't automatically believe there will be takers. It takes an effort to organize a group outing like that, and you can't just assume people will organize a trip even though the tickets are free. Again, I'm not saying Seton Hall shouldn't do it, I'm just saying it's an overly simplistic idea to boost attendance. Just because we'd jump on it doesn't mean others would.

Just give the tickets to every middle school and highschool basketball team in the area. kids that age are dying for something, anything to do

 

[lloyde dobler]

Like leaving their TV, computer and cell phone? And finding an adult to organize the trip? Not as a simple a sell as you think, even when the tickets are free.