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Amazing how Trump continues to get people fixated on the stuff that doesn't mean anything and/or he won't do. A master of distraction and marketing.
The COVID era revealed how many of our fellow citizens are truly against free speech. It was eye opening, and horrifying. We see it continuing today.
only thing i took from that is that Zuck is now a joe rogan podcast fan cosplayer lol
Obama seemed to hit it off quite well with Hitler today. What's that all about?
Of course you have no idea. It is reality; you deal in fantasy-comparing Trump to Hitler is insanity.
Here's another piece of reality that probably has escaped you: LA is up in flames largely due to the total incompetence of Newsome , Bass and other progressives all of whom were elected by people like you. They are about to get another dose of reality when they try to rebuild.
i didnt say it was my view. i was explaining how you could understand others may think this. which is what the general knock is from a lot of people here (directed at the general left "they") of course nobody could be bad as hitler. but there are a lot of similar qualities compared to every other president. which is still a blip compared to hitler himself.
are you calling me a progressive?? you must be as close to me as you were to obama and trump today!
as for the jawing at allies like this, and the isolationism play, what are your thoughts?
Personally think its his way of negotiating, not really going to take over the canal but wants discounted or Free fees for our ships. Canada and Greenland are his way to have something to discuss when he brings Russia and Ukraine to the table. He wants to let countries know we are done being taken advantage of. Denmark is smart, they are open to talking with him. Denmark realizes they need our protection and support. Open up a world map, Russia 100% does not want us in their neighborhood. Denmark might play along to get Russia out of Ukraine. Trump tells Putin to lay off or we are cutting a deal with Denmark for Greenland. Tons of oil in the seas between Russia and Greenland which Russia is already taking advantage of. Plus we can setup military bases in Greenland with missiles aimed at Russia. Not to mention he distracts the media from all the people he wants in his cabinet. Trump is smarter than people give him credit for, exactly why lots of people are now being nice to him. This kind of thinking was never part of our current presidents brain. Not a knock on Joe but he's a politician not a business man.
Not necessarily taking advantage of the US.
In Denmark's case, they literally have no defense system now as they have lent their armillary to Ukraine and not in a position to increase their arms spending. They (and other European countries NEED the U.S. for military support. Do they really need Greenland? Greenland has potential value to the US for minerals and for defense. If Denmark can't pay us/NATO for military needs, maybe Greenland is on the table?
The U.S./Canadian border is one of the longest in the world and we are susceptible to illegal's/terrorists coming over from the north. That border also needs to be secured.
So what you're saying is the US is looking to take advantage of Denmark. so it's the complete opposite.
Whats Canadas foreign policy? there massive cartels originating in canada and coming over. again it's straight up not taking advantage of us. thats why the comment was.
try this.
1) US is clearly taking advantage of greenland denmark, making the original comment completley wrong, and its the exact opposite
2) comparing canada with mexico is flat out moronic and you even know it. you know how BS that is.
Yes, in this case the U.S. is taking advantage of the leverage we have. I didn’t say Denmark was taking advantage of us.
We also have a problem on the northern border relating to immigration also. It isn’t the same numbers by far but the people crossing their illegally are more likely terrorists or Chinese nationals.
Used the wrong word, We are Canada’s largest customer. We buy autos and dairy products which help drive their economy. We run a trade deficit of over 200 billion. Their economy would suffer greatly without us. Same is true of Mexico, except we need what Mexico produces. Denmark owns Greenland and they count on us for protection. Denmark has been gracious and appreciative. Canada not so much hence the use of the phase taking advantage of us.
Trump needs leverage to negotiate a deal between Russia and Ukraine. We could hurt Canada and Denmark/Greenland and change the geography of our footprint but that would not be very neighborly, but then again Russia is not being very neighborly are they. Russia is depleting their military right now while USA could double in size without firing any weapons. Not to mention if we leverage Denmark/Greenland we would could keep an eye on Russia. The smart Folks in Denmark might buy into the Greenland partnership to put Russia in check. If Trump delivers this message maybe he gets the fighting to stop. It’s better than doing nothing while financing death and destruction.
Long shot but bet it works.
Have to negotiate differently with Mexico, we need their products and cooperation, but we do have some leverage there as well. Choices have to be made to keep peace. America has been so predictable that being unpredictable right now may cause people around the world to wake up and appreciate our country. A strong America benefits many countries around the world.
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They won't say it publicly, but given how the world stage has changed with Russia AND China, Denmark knows that if we owned Greenland , they would be better served from a security perspective.
I mentioned this a few weeks ago. The number one product Mexico exports are automobiles (most of which from American car makers that have IC plants in Mexico). And the U.S. is the number one customer for those exports. While tariffs would raise the cost of those cars, there are other options for American car buyers of vehicles not produced in Mexico....especially EV's which Tesla produces exclusively in U.S. factories. If Trump went through with the Mexico tariffs it would be a big boost to Musk.
I think Putin is looking for a way out of this mess he created. Personally we all should be pulling for an end to that war. Nothing good is going to come from all the fighting. I expect Trump to meet with Denmark in the first 30 days of office. Thank god we have leadership again. Joe was in way over his head, but was still better than Kamala even in his current state of mind. Pathetic how far we have fallen.
Plus Dems would be happy more electric cars. Mexico grows lots of fruits and vegetables. We do need their farming especially since California is a such a big question mark.
Just read Rob Schneider's book, "You Can Do It". A timely, humorous commentary on the threats to free speech in America.
Did you read my post saying I used the wrong word/words. See below from early post
Used the wrong word, We are Canada’s largest customer. We buy autos and dairy products which help drive their economy. We run a trade deficit of over 200 billion. Their economy would suffer greatly without us. Same is true of Mexico, except we need what Mexico produces. Denmark owns Greenland and they count on us for protection. Denmark has been gracious and appreciative. Canada not so much hence the use of the phase taking advantage of us.
Used the wrong word, We are Canada’s largest customer. We buy autos and dairy products which help drive their economy. We run a trade deficit of over 200 billion. Their economy would suffer greatly without us. Same is true of Mexico, except we need what Mexico produces. Denmark owns Greenland and they count on us for protection. Denmark has been gracious and appreciative. Canada not so much hence the use of the phase taking advantage of us.
so wait do you or don't you think canada is taking advantage of us lol?
and denmark has been appreciative so let's hint at annexing them? just dont get it.
Greenland no, Canada yes, Panama yes. If the war ends in the Middle East and also in Ukraine don’t worry about anything just be happy. You would be happy if the wars end right?
Generally speaking, I am not a fan of Imperialism as part of our foreign policy so I will be somewhat resistant to that line of thinking but I am amused by the simple minds who still believe the President-Elect is operating on some higher intellectual level than the rest of us.
Guys – stop with the “he’s distracting us from his cabinet picks” commentary. Every time I try to forget about the potential cabinet picks, someone reminds me he is distracting me from his cabinet picks. As a distraction, it has been a total failure.
That’s not to say the President-Elect isn’t a genius in his own way. The whole “Let rename the Gulf of Mexico” alerted me to a problem I didn’t even know I had. I’ve been calling it the Gulf of Mexico since 3rd grade social studies but why not call it the Gulf of America or even the Gulf of Trump? It’s good for our sense of nationalism, it’s good for cartographers everywhere and AOC can change it back in 2028 when she is Speaker of the House.
The same applies to Greenland. Did you know that Greenland is mostly covered in ice and Iceland is mostly green? Fifteen years of trivia nights at the bar is finally good for something. I always thought Greenland was just a big old island, but it turns out it is important for our strategic national defense. If Russia or China can snake their way through to New Jersey via the North Pole that is another problem I didn’t know I had.
If that is the case, I am not interested in buying Greenland or making nice with Denmark. We need to take over the island sooner than later and why should we pay for something we can just take? We can send Denmark some rare earth minerals around the holidays and the citizens of Greenland will enjoy being Puerto Rico of the North. It’s a big honor for them. Anything less is a military failure and a failure of the American way as well.
Guys – stop with the “he’s distracting us from his cabinet picks” commentary. Every time I try to forget about the potential cabinet picks, someone reminds me he is distracting me from his cabinet picks. As a distraction, it has been a total failure.
That’s not to say the President-Elect isn’t a genius in his own way. The whole “Let rename the Gulf of Mexico” alerted me to a problem I didn’t even know I had. I’ve been calling it the Gulf of Mexico since 3rd grade social studies but why not call it the Gulf of America or even the Gulf of Trump? It’s good for our sense of nationalism, it’s good for cartographers everywhere and AOC can change it back in 2028 when she is Speaker of the House.
The same applies to Greenland. Did you know that Greenland is mostly covered in ice and Iceland is mostly green? Fifteen years of trivia nights at the bar is finally good for something. I always thought Greenland was just a big old island, but it turns out it is important for our strategic national defense. If Russia or China can snake their way through to New Jersey via the North Pole that is another problem I didn’t know I had.
If that is the case, I am not interested in buying Greenland or making nice with Denmark. We need to take over the island sooner than later and why should we pay for something we can just take? We can send Denmark some rare earth minerals around the holidays and the citizens of Greenland will enjoy being Puerto Rico of the North. It’s a big honor for them. Anything less is a military failure and a failure of the American way as well.
so theyre not taking advantage of us, why are even remotely floating out the idea? sending his son there?
What are you talking about "taking advantage of us"? You stated that he was interested in annexing Denmark which is patently false.
Following is the announcement of Ken Howery as US Ambassador to Denmark.
"I am pleased to announce Ken Howery as my choice for United States Ambassador to the Kingdom of Denmark. Ken is a World renowned entrepreneur, investor, and public servant, who served our Nation brilliantly during my First Term as U.S. Ambassador to Sweden, where he led efforts to increase Defense, Security, and Economic Cooperation between our Countries.....For purposes of National Security and Freedom throughout the World, the United States of America feels that the ownership and control of Greenland is an absolute necessity. Ken will do a wonderful job in representing the interests of the United States. Thank you Ken, and congratulations!"
"I am pleased to announce Ken Howery as my choice for United States Ambassador to the Kingdom of Denmark. Ken is a World renowned entrepreneur, investor, and public servant, who served our Nation brilliantly during my First Term as U.S. Ambassador to Sweden, where he led efforts to increase Defense, Security, and Economic Cooperation between our Countries.....For purposes of National Security and Freedom throughout the World, the United States of America feels that the ownership and control of Greenland is an absolute necessity. Ken will do a wonderful job in representing the interests of the United States. Thank you Ken, and congratulations!"
Greenland wants independence from Denmark. That could be bad for the US if that were to happen so Trump seems to be floating that we could be a net benefit to them if they aligned with us somehow.
Maybe pay citizens there annually for rights to mine and increase our military presence?
Not really pro-imperialism but the US would benefit if we made a deal here.
Agree. I have no idea what a final deal would look like, but this would be a win for all parties. Greenland wants independence; Denmark and the rest of Europe would benefit greatly for an increased U.S. military presence on Greenland to protect them from Russia (and having a base that is far away from European civilians).
And like you said, we can work out an economic benefit for Greenland if we were able to mind for those minerals.
People don’t realize how dependent the EU is on the US for defense. They see the threats of China and more importantly Russia and want our help.
