I am quite certain that our recent problems have not been our fault, but have been caused by a curse put on Gary Cohen for some unknown reason. Looks like the darkness is lifted. If the Mets win the WS, imagine what Gary might experience this winter!!
LETS GO METS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I've said it before on here I think: So thrilled for Cohen to be experiencing this as an announcer considering how many seasons of bad baseball & basketball he's had to endure since he took both jobs. Some bright spots in between to be sue, but mostly suckiness.
How bout them Royals!
OT: my 8 yr old grandson went to the Chiefs/Steelers game at Arrowhead. He wore a Steelers cap & shirt. Their seats are right on the field (first row). Who drives up in a golf cart with 2 body guards during pre game warmups? Steelers Owner Dan Rooney! He took off his Super Bowl ring and let him try it on. Got some great pix. What a class guy and a great thrill for the boy.
OT: my 8 yr old grandson went to the Chiefs/Steelers game at Arrowhead. He wore a Steelers cap & shirt. Their seats are right on the field (first row). Who drives up in a golf cart with 2 body guards during pre game warmups? Steelers Owner Dan Rooney! He took off his Super Bowl ring and let him try it on. Got some great pix. What a class guy and a great thrill for the boy.
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Tough one to swallow last night. It wasn't Collins best game. Seemed like he was managing too much of a National League game. I thought initially he should've started Lagares in CF. He has the DH so if he's looking for some added offense, play Conforto there. But that's monday morning quarterbacking. The one guy you can't give a ball to drive in the 9th is Gordon. Let him walk or single and take you chances with Orlando and Escobar trying to string together hits against Familia. That was the game right there. Bats were silent in extra innings. You also can't sacrifice Flores if you going to let Cuddyer hit. That's basically a two out bunt. He couldn't hit me right now. Not sure why Uribe is on the roster if you're not going to use him in that spot.
As they say, momentum is only as good as the next days pitcher so let's hope Degrom shuts them down and they can score some runs off Cueto.
As they say, momentum is only as good as the next days pitcher so let's hope Degrom shuts them down and they can score some runs off Cueto.
I'm not a Mets fan but I watched the game into the 11th last night. Why did Cuddyer get so many at bats? Kelly Johnson had way better at bats than him. I get the righty lefty thing but common he came up in a bunch of key situations and had no good swings at all. The guy looks totally lost out there.
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I stayed up for the duration and I'm paying the price this a.m.
Ironically a couple callers on WFAN yesterday said they thought Lagares should have been starting in CF. Big Mike dismissed the potential impact at the time, rightfully so IMO, but in hindsight, I wonder how the game would have played out had Lagares been able to make that play in the 1st.
I've been pulling for the Mets this postseason, but found myself rooting for KC last night.
Ironically a couple callers on WFAN yesterday said they thought Lagares should have been starting in CF. Big Mike dismissed the potential impact at the time, rightfully so IMO, but in hindsight, I wonder how the game would have played out had Lagares been able to make that play in the 1st.
I've been pulling for the Mets this postseason, but found myself rooting for KC last night.
Gordon suckered Familia into throwing that quick pitch but this time he was looking for it. That mistake cost the Mets the game. When a pitcher is generally unhittable he doesn't have to use trick pitches like that. The Royals are a tough matchup for the Mets because they are not free swingers but rather contact hitters with speed.
Tom K
Tom K
How does a hitter sucker a pitcher into quick-pitching? Agree that Familia, with one out and nobody on, didn't need to do it. Terrible bit of pitching, letting the #7 or 8 hitter take you 450 feet.
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Was thinking the same. But in deference to Tom and the fact I may have missed something last night trying to keep my eyes open, thought I'd wait for someone else to respond.
Can't remember exactly where Gordon was batting last night, but he's not a typical 7 or 8 hitter if that's indeed where he was. He's a #2 hitter in most lineups.
A very tough loss and you can't dismiss it. The closer did the one thing he couldn't 'do in that situation by giving up a HR. Probably could have pitched out of any other type of trouble.
The 3B for the Royals made a huge play in he 6th inning by preventing at least one run. The Mets could have broke it open and Harvey would have had a bit more rope to work with.
The Mets really need tonight. Get that one and take 2 out of 3 at Citifield and they'll have a good chance to win the World Series in KC.
The 3B for the Royals made a huge play in he 6th inning by preventing at least one run. The Mets could have broke it open and Harvey would have had a bit more rope to work with.
The Mets really need tonight. Get that one and take 2 out of 3 at Citifield and they'll have a good chance to win the World Series in KC.
It's only one game and if the Mets come out with a win tonight they will have achieved what you want, a split on the road in the first two games. Still think the difference in the series will be whose bullpen does the best job. Mets starters will probably go deeper in the game which should benefit their bullpen but the Royals bullpen is deeper which should allow them to pull their starter quicker and with less innings pitched.
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What was strange was he did the quick pitch once and that is fine and provides a surprise. Then he did it multiple times - the surprise is gone. If a pitcher thinks that is effective do it just once and that is it. It worked once but the element of surprise is gone and clearly the pitch gets there quicker but does not necessarily have the same movement on it as a pitch from the windup. You can't keep going back to it and thinking noone noticed the first one - stupid. If he hits your best pitch so be it but that is not what happened.
Wonder if the pitch was called from the bench and part of the plan as to how the Mets were going to attack certain of the KC hitters.
That's why the Royals are as good as they are. They put together a team not like most other teams in baseball right now. Lots of contact hitters with some power and a pitching staff that only hopes its starters can go 5 innings. They have been on a mission this season and they are 3 games away from accomplishing that mission!
I wish the Mets would stop using the quick pitch. It's mostly Familia who uses it, but also Robles. Familia's stuff is certainly good enough without screwing around with the quick pitch
Take heart,,,
69 Mets lost game one and took the next four.
86 Mets lost the first TWO (at Shea, no less) and won it in seven
Take heart,,,
69 Mets lost game one and took the next four.
86 Mets lost the first TWO (at Shea, no less) and won it in seven
And yes history will again repeat itself this year. It's the Mets fate to lose to the Royals who last won a series in 1985 and will do so again this year! Any other American League team and I'd be on board with "let's go Mets", but not against the Royals.
When Familia senses that the hitter is not ready in the box he throws it. He did it once and it worked. The next pitch Gordon went into the box feigning not being ready again but waiting for that quick fastball right down the middle.
Not very different from when Murphy suckered the Cubs on that steal of 3rd in the previous series.
TK
Familia and Wright are guys you want to impact the game. Last night they lost it. I think Conforto as DH was a bad idea, but not as bad as subbing in Cuddyer. I don't mind Familia going after the guy - I want him to attack everyone - but he didn't; I hate that quick pitch crap from a guy with his stuff.
If Uribe needs a couple of more days, imo, he is still a better roster selection for five games than the SS who they left off for 7.
In the early part of the game (3rd or 4th inning maybe) Wright jumped way up in the air and caught a line drive which was a good play. But when he came down he seemed like he was in pain. I think that back is giving him a lot of trouble and could have been a factor and might factor into the games going forward.
Apparently, according to the announcers during that game said he has had problems all season. It takes him several hours to get ready before the game. Throws side arm because of his back. Really have to respect his drive and heart. Competitor in true sense of the word.
Oh yeah, almost forgot Mets pitchers have struck out 2 Royals in each game. Impressive. Royals now lead series 2-0. Go Royals.
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Local announcers who know David say he has always been this way. He does take long to get ready. I bet, nj ut b Reynolds speculated on the sidearm comment and more knowledgeable guys say no...maybe another reason to have local representation on the broadcast
KC batters are really tough up and down the lineup. Great 2 strike hitters. Only a handful of strikeouts for Harvey and deGrom. Interesting to see how Syndegaard handles the KC lineup in a must-win game for the Mets.
Mets better find their hitting shoes. Mets came close to being no hit last night. Only 2 soft hits by Duda.
Mets better find their hitting shoes. Mets came close to being no hit last night. Only 2 soft hits by Duda.
The Royals are a very tough matchup for a team like the Mets that relies on young strikeout pitchers. To get back into the series the Mets certainly will have to hit better also. What has been ignored in all the write ups/analysis is that the Royals were also the best team in MLB during the regular season building up a big lead early in the season and then just coasting home.
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The blown save looms even larger today after last night. I wonder what happens if he does not do that slide step? Guess we will never know but that one pitch was huge. Coming home at 1-1 would have been so much better for the Mets. Royals are flat out good and they showed all year how important putting the ball in play is.
The one thing that has impressed me the most about the Royal's is how well they make contact and how difficult it is to get the ball past them when they have two strikes on them. For a Mets staff that's greatest asset is their ability to strike out the opposition it makes what the Royal's batters are doing even more impressive .
Down 2-0 is a steep hill to climb, but they did exactly that in '86. One game at a time. Syndergaard needs a good outing, the bats need to return to life and a break or two would help.
In 69, 73 and 76 World Series game 3's the Met leadoff hitter had a homer in the first inning. It was Agee in 69, Garrett in 73 and Dykstra in 86. Didn't happen in 2000.
Maybe Granderson will do it tomorrow night.
In 69, 73 and 76 World Series game 3's the Met leadoff hitter had a homer in the first inning. It was Agee in 69, Garrett in 73 and Dykstra in 86. Didn't happen in 2000.
Maybe Granderson will do it tomorrow night.
Loved what Ojeda said today. Basically if you're gonna get beat get beat with your best stuff.
http://m.nydailynews.com/sports/bas...op-pitching-scouting-report-article-1.2416279
http://m.nydailynews.com/sports/bas...op-pitching-scouting-report-article-1.2416279
David Wright needs a rest. Let him play 4 to 5 innings. But I would put Murphy at 3rd and Kelly Johnson at 2nd. Wright's spinal stenosis is catching up with him.
He's made some very good plays in the field. Last time I looked, it was a team sport and so far the Royals have been the better team. Wright has definitely not been the difference maker in their losing effort so far.
I like and respect Wright and nothing would make me happier than him being the hero. But his error in Game 1 was the biggest play leading to the loss, and he had a huge AB with runners in scoring position and struck out. It is not just him, it is the offense, it is Cespedes' muff of the first pitch, it is neither starter so far being themselves And DW has not been good enough.
I disagree with you here seton. game one was decided by that one ill advised quick pitch by Familia. His first blown save in over two months. No one is perfect. Forget the past and let's get on with game #3.
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Who is that idiot talking about wright like that? Hope a 2 run homer and 2 good defensive plays is enough to shut you up.
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