LETS GO METS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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He added to that total! Wish the naysayers were right and he didn't play tonite. Nothing wrong with Wright tonite.
I just got back from the game at Citifield. This was a very tough loss to take, but teams have come back from a 3-1 deficit before. I don't think anyone has ever come back from being down 4-1 so we damn well better win tomorrow. Quite honestly if we don't win tomorrow, I do not think I will watch games 6 or 7. GO METS !!!
Glad you got to go to the game. I went to all 7 in 1985. My twin sons went to all the games last year and have gone to all the games so far this year continuing the family tradition.. Nothing like it, especially when your winning. I felt your pain to be last year. It sucks. Hope the Royals can put the Mets out of their misery since I'm flying to San Fran on Tuesday and won't get to a TV until after 6:00pm PST.
Cespedes got doubled off at first in the ninth on a soft liner to third. Tough call though because it was close to being a one hop so if he stayed close to the bag he would have been an easy force at second as part of a double play as well.
The difference in the games is not the errors or base running, but the fact that the Mets are just not hitting. They pitched well enough to win games 1 and 4. The other thing is the Royals unbelievable skill at handling 2 strike pitches. Just fouling off one after the other until they get the pitch they want. I've seen players with that skill set before but never an entire team with that ability.
Tom K
Murphy who was on second stayed close enough to get back. The soft liner would in no way be a one hopper unless Moustakas backed up. Cespedes had a man in front of him who was not running. A little league manager would be pissed at that one. Cespeses ran on contact,with no reason to do so. bottom line. Huge mental blunder. Would have had tying runs on base and winning run at plate. Not saying it was the difference, but it took away the opportunity to tie or win. Agree, Royals better and do what they have to do to win. Luck is when preparation meets opportunity. Royals take advantage of blunders and deserve credit for that.
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The DP was especially hard to take because the winning run was at the plate. Despite everything else one swing could have changed the outcome by either Duda or D'arneau.
Tons of blame here. They all have a hand in it. Don't understand why Terry keeps putting Tyler
Clippard out there. A disaster waiting to happen. Murphy had to play that ball with more caution. Terry
needed to go further with either Niese or Colon.
In addition how about doing a better job against a pedestrian pitcher in the early innings. Shorten up those swings and go the opposite way. Cespedis is a 5 tool player that is all over the map. It's disgraceful that he's allowed to play golf on the day he is playing a World Series game. It's nonsensical that it relaxes him. Playing golf has to take a minimum of 3 or 4 hours. You are using muscles, energy and your mind. He'd be better served saving it for the field. BS that they allow it.
The Mets need great starting pitch starting tonight, but their darn bats have to pick it up. You can't have the
middle of the order producing zilch on most nights.
Clippard out there. A disaster waiting to happen. Murphy had to play that ball with more caution. Terry
needed to go further with either Niese or Colon.
In addition how about doing a better job against a pedestrian pitcher in the early innings. Shorten up those swings and go the opposite way. Cespedis is a 5 tool player that is all over the map. It's disgraceful that he's allowed to play golf on the day he is playing a World Series game. It's nonsensical that it relaxes him. Playing golf has to take a minimum of 3 or 4 hours. You are using muscles, energy and your mind. He'd be better served saving it for the field. BS that they allow it.
The Mets need great starting pitch starting tonight, but their darn bats have to pick it up. You can't have the
middle of the order producing zilch on most nights.
Thanks. With your track record & SI, the Royals are now guaranteed to win the series. Yes!
Vegas we've been friends for a long time (Since the Hoddy Mahon was coach I think) so what I'm about to say is only because I want the best for you and your fellow KC fans. I really think it's in your best interest to string the series out before trying to close it back home in KC where your fans can most enjoy it. Please pass on my message and regards to Mr Yost.
Tom K
I can't disagree with most of what you say. And as much as Murphy and Cespedes have been cold throughout the WS just remember that without them we would not be in the World Series.
Tom K
The good news is they have 3 games to win 1 and 2 are at home. Having been to the 7th game in 85, I can say with certainty there will be a Hugh home field advantage,especially with the crowd noise. They're the 10th player on the field. Since then they've increased seating,and it will be worse. I can still remember what it did to the St. Louis starter ad closed. It cost 1 of them $10K in damages for what he did inside the visitors club house after being pulled. Made his losers share even smaller. lol. We'll enjoy it wherever and whenever it happens. If the Royals were not in this series, I'd e rooting for da Mets. Oh well.
For what it's worth last year I was rooting for KC big time over the Giants. But that was last year & this is this year. GO METS !!!
I almost always root for the underdogs and who are more perpetual underdogs than my 3 favorite teams - Mets - Jets & Seton Hall Pirates.
Tom K
I almost always root for the underdogs and who are more perpetual underdogs than my 3 favorite teams - Mets - Jets & Seton Hall Pirates.
Tom K
royals play to 27 out or more, have excellent fielders of the ball at 8 positions and i have never seen a team be so resilient with two strikes or in 0-2, 1-2 holes in any AB, they never die, not bad for the 14th highest payroll in 2015, the cheapest world series team since the 2003 marlins
Great run by the Mets. As a Yankee fan, had to root for the Royals but as you can imagine that's a weird feeling and for KC being such a hated rival back in the 70s.
Mets have a great foundation with those young pitchers. I'm jealous. Keeping them together and avoiding injuries, they should have a pretty good run for the next several years.
Mets have a great foundation with those young pitchers. I'm jealous. Keeping them together and avoiding injuries, they should have a pretty good run for the next several years.
have to give harvey and degrom guaranteed money now, buy out first 2 free agent years
cespedes walks, give murphy quali offer, go find 2 relievers ziegler.street?, maybe sign zobrist to a 1 plus 1 if cant reach good deal with murphy, also depending on lagares maybe go after a span type for OF
wheeler comes back by july 1, would take it slow and easy with all the arms in spring training they pitched longer and more than they have ever done previously
conforto lock starting lf next season, does uribe want to come back, how about colon?
mets need to defend better, i think they pull a deal at or after winter meetings
Credit KC,they got it done. Built a team for the most part through their farmystem and trades. Mets fans have to feel the sting, but with the starting rotation in place, not to mention Wheeler, they will be around for a while. A few hole to fill but it all starts with pitching .Future is encouraging.
I'd offer both Harvey and deGrom identical 5 year $90 million deals immediately. I wonder if the Dodgers would consider shipping Puig this way as a replacement for Cespedes. His contract is relatively affordable and his value is at an all-time low. I'm not sure what it would cost, but I don't think the Mets would have to give up any of their top prospects.
Gotta make an offer to Murphy, probably 5 years and $60 million gets it done. They need to address the bullpen more than anything else. They have nothing between the starters and Familia. I'm not sure who's out there, but I'd probably follow in the Royals' mold and try and convert a starter to the set up role so that they won't have trouble being stretched 2 innings if necessary.
Gotta make an offer to Murphy, probably 5 years and $60 million gets it done. They need to address the bullpen more than anything else. They have nothing between the starters and Familia. I'm not sure who's out there, but I'd probably follow in the Royals' mold and try and convert a starter to the set up role so that they won't have trouble being stretched 2 innings if necessary.
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I'd make the offers to Harvey and deGrom first, since they are either arbitration eligible or closest to being so. If one of them declines the offer, I'd hear trade offers and see if you can get one of the elite bats in baseball in a package for them. In truth, they need to lock up 3 of these starters long-term. I think you can take any 3 out of 4 combination and be set for the next 5-7 years with this group.
Mets fans, keep an eye on Dominic Smith. He is currently tearing up the Arizona fall league, batting 400 and had a very good 2015 season. Another very talented young kid,1b/of. Ahmed Rosario is a super good SS. Little bit light with the bat, but a super glove. As far as trades go, the Mets need a path to Familia and giving up a starter could get them a very good one.
Maybe a rematch next year. Who,knows? Great game & series. Every Royal on the team got into at least 1 game unbelievable. And to think there was a thread knocking how many Royals were getting votes for the all star game. Lol
Harvey's agent is Scott Boros and he always takes any superstar client to free agency. If the Mets want to give Harvey a 10 year $275 million deal then you might have a shot . Remember if Harvey were to get a deal like that now DeGrom would want similar money. The Mets still have their core 4 starters under control for a number of years before they get to free agency and there is no need to go overboard now.
The trend throughout baseball is to offer the young stars contracts slightly below market value before they become arbitration eligible. I understand what you're saying with Boras, but a 5 year $90 million contract would secure Harvey's financial future for life and put him in line for one more major pay day after his age 31 season. Same with deGrom, although he'd be a year older. Both players, who have had Tommy John once in their career, would be gambling on themselves staying healthy without any assurances for the next few years if they don't sign an extension. I'd take the guaranteed money if I was them.
I through out a hypothetical trade to a friend of mine the other day - Conforto and Wheeler for Betances. At first, he said he wouldn't do it as a Mets fan, but as the playoffs wore on he changed his mind. This trade would never in a million years happen, but if you could bridge the Mets starters to Familia with an elite setup option the Mets would be the toughest out in baseball.
As a Yankee fan, I rooted for the American League and the Royals during the series. The Royals are just a better overall baseball Team. However, the Mets have an unbelievably bright future with their starting pitchers and Conforto. I am very jealous of the Mets' future.
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