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May weather v PacMan

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As with almost all of Floyd's fights, I leave it bored and feeling I just wasted money and my time. No doubt Mayweather is a great defensive fighter who does just enough to out point his opponent during a round. But, my God it was dreadfully boring and the only exciting rounds were the rounds PacMan won.

Run, dip and move stick a few jabs out and you win the fight. Yes, hard to do but this is not what people came to see. I can't remember a more disappointing fight. I think I have to go back to the No mas fight between Duran and Leonard. We the fans are the biggest suckers. Another reason why boxing is dying.
 
Have to agree. The build-up even added to the disappointment. Fight was a yawner.
 
I'm glad the fight sucked. I hope boxing and these other fighting sports die out. It's sad that we as a society still pay good money to watch people give each other brain damage. It boggles my mind that knowing what we know about concussions and traumatic brain injuries that we still allow crap like this. Although as someone planning to go into neurology I suppose it's good for business. SMH.
 
I'm glad the fight sucked. I hope boxing and these other fighting sports die out. It's sad that we as a society still pay good money to watch people give each other brain damage. It boggles my mind that knowing what we know about concussions and traumatic brain injuries that we still allow crap like this. Although as someone planning to go into neurology I suppose it's good for business. SMH.
Well, you are not a boxing fan but boxing at its best is one of the great exciting sports there is. However, since you are against brain injuries, are you a football fan? Not only brain injuries but all sorts of crippling damage is done in that sport.

As far as Mayweather goes, he is the best defensive boxer of all time. But the best fighter, NO WAY!
He doesn't fight. He runs and grabs and throws a jab out. PacMan is not really a welterweight. He is a very small for a welterweight. I don't think Mayweather could have beaten Duran, Sugar, Ray, Tommy Hearns or even a Wilfred Benitez. I actually always thought that Oscar De La Hoya beat Mayweather.
 
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PPV was a complete rip off and the fight was completely boring. This thing grossed over 300 million? even if this fight were in its prime it was still not worth the hype. the thing I don't get is afterwards there was some talk by boxing experts how Pachio fought well enough for a rematch.
 
Boxing will in fact die. It's an old person's sport, and there are just too many other things for the younger and future generations to be interested in.

I wish football would die as well. For the life of me, I don't understand its appeal. Apparently a lot of parents think its a macho activity that will turn their sons into "men" if they participate in it. Meanwhile, a large percentage of American men spend their fall weekends in their underwear, watching football on TV while guzzling beer and devouring junk food. The popularity of the Super Bowl is especially baffling. A large number of people who watch "the big game" can't even name five players on the two teams, or 10 in the entire league. Yet they watch it because everyone else does. It's somehow turned into mandatory viewing, life they don't have the option to do something else.
 
Gennedy Golovkin would knock Floyd's jaw loose if they fought at 154. 2nd round KO for sure with Mayweather desperately trying dirty tactics to save himself such as low blows when he's getting pummeled.

Of course he'll never fight GGG because he's a coward so he'll fight overrated washed up guys like Pacman who has garbage head movement and foot speed.
If Terrence Crawford had a bigger frame, I'd favor him to KO Mayweather too. Khan might win a decision vs. Mayweather, but he's a Jekyll and Hyde fighter.


If he dodges GGG, I don't even want to hear about him as a Top 50 fighter of all-time. Mayweather has f'n pillows for hands and fights people several years out of their primes or guys who don't have the tools to threaten him.
 
Well, you are not a boxing fan but boxing at its best is one of the great exciting sports there is. However, since you are against brain injuries, are you a football fan? Not only brain injuries but all sorts of crippling damage is done in that sport.

As far as Mayweather goes, he is the best defensive boxer of all time. But the best fighter, NO WAY!
He doesn't fight. He runs and grabs and throws a jab out. PacMan is not really a welterweight. He is a very small for a welterweight. I don't think Mayweather could have beaten Duran, Sugar, Ray, Tommy Hearns or even a Wilfred Benitez. I actually always thought that Oscar De La Hoya beat Mayweather.

Nope hate football as well for similar reasons. I was raised on Soccer and Basketball. Didn't watch any Football until High school and one of the things I liked about Georgetown was Football wasn't a big deal so I didn't have to pretend to care.
 
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I hate people say mayweather just ran all night. It's tough to throw more punches than your opponent, land almost twice as many punches as your opponent and just run around. Everyone leading up to the fight said Pacquaio would give Mayweather problems and would knock him out. Then when the fight happens and Pacquaio is swinging at flies in the ring they say it's boring and blast mayweather instead of praising him. He makes fighters look flat out mediocre.

If this fight happened 5 years ago this would have been the same result. Mayweather is just that good. Fight was boring because he manhandles his opponents.
 
Gennedy Golovkin would knock Floyd's jaw loose if they fought at 154. 2nd round KO for sure with Mayweather desperately trying dirty tactics to save himself such as low blows when he's getting pummeled.

Of course he'll never fight GGG because he's a coward so he'll fight overrated washed up guys like Pacman who has garbage head movement and foot speed.
If Terrence Crawford had a bigger frame, I'd favor him to KO Mayweather too. Khan might win a decision vs. Mayweather, but he's a Jekyll and Hyde fighter.


If he dodges GGG, I don't even want to hear about him as a Top 50 fighter of all-time. Mayweather has f'n pillows for hands and fights people several years out of their primes or guys who don't have the tools to threaten him.
Golovkin is my favorite fighter going. That would be a fight worth watching. Khan sucks. A stiff breeze gets him wobbling.
 
Back in the day when real men were boxers, they would go up in weight to fight. ie Leonard hagler. No way in hell would Maywether ever move up to meet GGG. And I agree. GGG would destroy him. He would walk right through Maywether's jab.
 
Yeah khan is no good and he looks so desperate to fight him. Mayweather is in a no win situation fighting GGG at 154. It's funny how he has fight someone who is 13 pounds heavier than him or he is afraid to fight.
 
I hate people say mayweather just ran all night. It's tough to throw more punches than your opponent, land almost twice as many punches as your opponent and just run around. Everyone leading up to the fight said Pacquaio would give Mayweather problems and would knock him out. Then when the fight happens and Pacquaio is swinging at flies in the ring they say it's boring and blast mayweather instead of praising him. He makes fighters look flat out mediocre.

If this fight happened 5 years ago this would have been the same result. Mayweather is just that good. Fight was boring because he manhandles his opponents.
Mayweather manhandles opponents? I don't think so unless you mean by clinching and raking his gloves over the face of his opponents. I watched that fight and it didn't look like Mayweather threw more punches unless you call those pity pat jabs of his a punch. Those statistics are misleading. The only hard punches were thrown by Manny and there were not many of them.

Floyd is the best defensive boxer but that doesn't mean he is an all time great. Manny is a much smaller guy than Mayweather. That was an issue coming into this fight. Manny didn't throw the punches he usually throws which is certainly a combination of Mayweather's defense but also Manny didn't fight like Manny.

Floyd is not in the league of Sugar Ray, Duran, or Hearns. And oh yeah, all those guys went up in weight to fight the great Marvin Hagler. Hmm, guess what guy won't go up in weight?
 
Mayweather is a great defensive fighter, but he pales in comparison to some of the greats mentioned above. For those that are old enough, the great Baltimore Oriole teams of the 60's and 70's had a shortstop named Mark Belanger, who made fielding the position an art and made everything look easy. Great defensive SS, but the problem is, no one went to see the Orioles primarily to see him play. They went to see Frank Robinson, Brooks Robinson, Boog Powell and their All-Star pitching staff.

That fight was a snooze last night. Sugar Ray, Hagler, Duran, Hearns were all infinitely better than Mayweather. That fight last night struck me as two guys that wanted to get out of there without getting hurt and collect their paychecks.
 
Here's a report on sports-related head injuries from the American Association of Neurological Surgeons. It was released in August 2104, and tracks emergency room visits in 2009. Cycling is way on top, followed by football; baseball and softball; basketball; water sports; powered recreational vehicles; and then soccer. The standings are similar for children ages 14 and younger, with football versus soccer having roughly a 2.5 to 1.0 ratio. There are no statistics in the study tracking head injuries per participant. It's been stated in a lot of places that youth football participation continues to drop while soccer participation goes up because girls can play as well as boys. Basketball participation is also on the rise, again because girls can participate. .

As for boxing, the report states that the force of a professional boxer's fist is equivalent to being hit with a 13-pound bowling ball traveling 20 miles per hour, or about 52 times the force of gravity. Ouch.

Speaking of bowling, that sport is not listed in the head-injury survey at all. Neither is golf, running, or tiddlywinks. Perhaps people should restrict their athletic participation to those sports in order to avoid head injuries. Or they can remain spectators, where the biggest health concerns are developing a beer belly or perhaps a headache from your wife yelling at you for watching too much sports.

Here is the AANS report.

http://www.aans.org/patient information/conditions and treatments/sports-related head injury.aspx
 
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Here's a recent study on kids and sports participation, which has pretty much dropped across the board (softball and football have the biggest drop-offs). Children just aren't as active as they used to be. Time devoted to physical education in schools has dropped as well, which is disturbing. When I did my teaching internship in the first and fourth grades a few years back, hardly any time at all was put aside for physical education. Classroom were asked to let the kids stand up and stretch from time to time to get their blood flowing, but that's hardly the same thing. The first-grade teachers would take the kids for a walk prior to a math test, thinking that the physical exertion would somehow help. Again, not the same thing. But hey, the Tennessee system I work for now is spending loads of cash so that all students grades 4-12 will have their very own school-provided laptop in a couple years. More computers, less physical activity. What is wrong with this picture?

http://www.aspeninstitute.org/about...-of-youth-sports-in-the-us-and-why-it-matters
 
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