In addition, blood centers will go through a series of pre-donation screening questions (i.e. on travel) normally and most are adding questions specifically for COVID-19 to defer anyone who might be at risk. The blood supply is incredibly safe...but this reaction is creating a crisis. FWIW, platelets only have a five day shelf life, which is really only three days because it takes two days to complete all of the infectious disease testing.
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And that is well within your right to choose to be cautious given that fact. You could just as easily just not see them for a few weeks to be sure you don't have it.
I don't believe anything coming from the mainstream media. If we've learned nothing else the past 3+ years is that they will blatantly lie, manipulate or distort the truth and when called out refuse to accept accountability. The hyping of this virus is 100% political. SARS, MERS, Ebola were FAR worse and didn't get a fraction of the media hype.
Here is an example...tell me this isn't political
https://time.com/5779872/coronavirus-ebola-news-coverage/
There are many reasonable takes in this thread but also a ton of misinformation / hyperbole.
Is COVID-19 as scary a disease as, say, Ebola? Absolutely not. But the ramifications of rapid spread in the population could be truly disastrous. There are simply not enough hospital beds to accommodate all the potential COVID cases at one time. If you look at Italy, the healthcare system is collapsing under the weight of patient influx and they're being forced to make decisions about who gets intubated and who is left to perish. And while it's true that the elderly are most at risk, this impacts everyone. I'm in the age group where many of my friends and their wives are pregnant. Many are due to give birth in the next few weeks. Would you want to be delivering a child in a hospital inundated with this, where the doctors and nurses are in a triage scenario?
Is there something hypocritical about certain gatherings being cancelled and others continuing like nothing is wrong? Totally. It shouldn't be like that. But that doesn't mean gathering in a stadium for these games is the right call. Every additional gathering only increases the likelihood of rapid spread, and it's hugely important to slow that spread. Hospitals will be much better prepared to treat 10,000 people over the course of four months than four weeks. And if it's true that the virus spread isn't that bad here and the warm weather helps people get better, then terrific! But that's not guaranteed whatsoever.
I love the Hall. I'll be cheering from home.
Is COVID-19 as scary a disease as, say, Ebola? Absolutely not. But the ramifications of rapid spread in the population could be truly disastrous. There are simply not enough hospital beds to accommodate all the potential COVID cases at one time. If you look at Italy, the healthcare system is collapsing under the weight of patient influx and they're being forced to make decisions about who gets intubated and who is left to perish. And while it's true that the elderly are most at risk, this impacts everyone. I'm in the age group where many of my friends and their wives are pregnant. Many are due to give birth in the next few weeks. Would you want to be delivering a child in a hospital inundated with this, where the doctors and nurses are in a triage scenario?
Is there something hypocritical about certain gatherings being cancelled and others continuing like nothing is wrong? Totally. It shouldn't be like that. But that doesn't mean gathering in a stadium for these games is the right call. Every additional gathering only increases the likelihood of rapid spread, and it's hugely important to slow that spread. Hospitals will be much better prepared to treat 10,000 people over the course of four months than four weeks. And if it's true that the virus spread isn't that bad here and the warm weather helps people get better, then terrific! But that's not guaranteed whatsoever.
I love the Hall. I'll be cheering from home.
Donnie, this article is from January. We're now in the middle of March. The reality on the ground has changed dramatically.
How so? People knew the virus would come to the US and it has. It is not widespread, a tiny fraction of the population have it. Cases will continue to rise and eventually plateau as they have in China.
The # of cases in China did not magically plateau on their own. They were curbed because of intense, highly extreme measures that were imposed on their people. As a society, we would never tolerate those measures, so social distancing is one of the only -- if not *the* only -- measures we can take to slow the spread and flatten the curve.
This. Why we think it will overtake the society unlike anything mankind has ever seen before is the result of hysteria.
It’s reasonable to stay away from things for a few weeks, but let’s not cause the end of our healthcare or economic systems, my God.
Mea culpa. It was linked to a more recent article, and I neglected to read the date. I'm not sure that the epidemiologists and ID specialists "on the ground" are feeling that differently now, however.
I think hysteria is being blown up. It seems the only hysterical ones are those that cannot fathom a month of sports games without fans.
There is one issue that has yet to be fully explored as the narrative continues about the Coronavirus and that is have we , as a country, devoted the resources that are necessary to deal with the reality that we will continue to face other new viruses in the future . The explosive growth of global travel and a true global economy have put the transmission of such diseases to our shores likely and will we be prepared to deal with it .
Everyone has to make their choices and I am not going to sit here and judge your personal decision. And for the most part, I believe the CDC, administration, other agencies, etc. have done a very good job managing things thus far. What we are seeing now is an inconsistency from state and private organizations on setting limits and guidelines that are causing confusion. Why did the Ivy League cancel games and not the major conferences? Why are some schools closing and not others? Why has NYS called out the National Guard?
I was just in D.C. at a healthcare conference; in conference rooms, out at dinners in crowded restaurants, etc.. My drive to and from the meeting was significantly more dangerous than known risks of the virus. But that's my opinion and I don't expect everyone to share it. BTW, from the professionals I spoke, they felt that we shouldn't draw too much from what is happening in Italy to compare what might happen here.
That's a great point. And it's not just a matter of resources, but are we prepared to take the necessary steps, like containment, to manage a global health crisis. Remember the silly pushback we saw on something as simple as stopping flights to and from China. Are we prepared as a society to accept short term draconian steps to protect the masses in exchange of losing certain freedoms? That all goes into the equation along with the medical response.
The hysteria is all over the media (TV, internet, etc). It's not because sports fans can't tolerate games without fans.
I exclusively watch BBC world news and they seem to do a great job.
In this case the traditional media is actually having a good effect imo. Theyre reporting what our government wont lol. Nothing that has been said is extreme. Why not just be more careful it only helps in this situation.
walking around nyc its far from hysterical. Normal as usual just longer lines at the grocery store
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Doesnt the fact that most likely thousands upon thousands of people have this and are completely unaware invalidate the high mortality rate that is being reported?
If this is true than it probably is closer in line to the flu.
If this is true than it probably is closer in line to the flu.
Well, per the WHO, there is a known mortality rate (based on all actual known cases), and a projected mortality rate, where they predict this thing will ultimately settle.
These numbers may not be up-to-the-minute current, but as of a day or two ago, 3.4 percent was still the actual mortality rate, but they expected it to ultimately shake out at about 1 percent. I suppose that accounts for increased incidences of discovery/diagnosis. Even if it is 1 percent, that is still 10 times the rate of flu deaths. At the same rate of infection as the flu, that would send U.S. deaths well past 100,000.
This is probably closest to the truth. There are unknown thousands of people who get mild flu symptoms every year, causing under-reporting. One caveat is that the CDC guidelines, as they stand today (already outdated, IMHO) are preventing the testing of symptomatic patients who haven't traveled or been in contact with someone with KNOWN infection. Duh - the virus is already here, who cares about travel? If I don't know I have COVID-19 and give it to SHUSource, how does he know that I'm a sick contact - since I can't get tested? All of this is a long-winded way of saying we don't know. COVID may be much more under-diagnosed than flu, which would affect the numbers significantly. Though I would take the current numbers seriously.
That's not true. There was plenty on SARS and Ebola.
Maybe not amplified as much in the age of social media but those were huge stories. The 2018 Ebola outbreak wasn't as big of a story because it was contained to one country.
SARS and MERS were far more deadly, but not nearly as contagious which is why the coronoavirus has already killed 3 times the number of people who have died from SARS and MERS combined. The fact that it can go undiagnosed and spread so easily is what makes it so dangerous.
At 80 days after the first case was reported, there were 0 deaths from SARS. 6 from MERS and 3,000 for coronavirus.
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They've changed this now (finally)...symptomatic can be tested, with a doctor's order of course
how does one go about being tested? by your comment i guess the doctors dont test for it.
Quest, Labcorp, etc. I take it you're skipping the games this week?
Why do people assume this will infect as many people as the flu? That's a giant leap and there is no evidence that will happen.
Countless doctors / hospitals have complained about the lack of availability of testing kits. While the White House promised that kits would be widely available by this week, they have fallen woefully short. It's frankly an outrage.
https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2020/03/coronavirus-testing-numbers/607714/
https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2020/03/coronavirus-testing-numbers/607714/
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https://www.livescience.com/how-far-will-coronavirus-spread.html
The basic reproduction number known as the R0 number is what defines how contagious they are and how many people 1 person will spread it to. The rate is still just an estimate but all estimates have the number exceeding that of the flu, and there is no vaccine for it.
It's not a leap at all.
All of the data available at this point says this will have a greater impact than the flu. We just don't know how much.
Would be nice, but I don't think that's feasible only one week out. Plus you may have more governors who cave to the hysteria and pressure.
Cant go directly to Quest, but can go to an Emergency Room, or to your doctor's office. if you have the appropriate symptoms, they can then either order the test thru the State (a little more bureacratic, ie need an "approval #", but gives the State the stats they want and need) or they can order the test thru Quest/Lab Corp. turn around differs for each but figure a couple days
i was planning on going to at least one, i just havent bought a ticket yet in case it gets fan cancelled. i actually have a group going LOL. i think well be fine on tix and prices
