NCAA to allow social justice messaging
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Until someone wants to wear All Lives Matter, or Blue Lives Matter, or MAGA, or I Love Jesus.
If you are going to allow personal messaging, it should be open to any social cause.
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I would think its stupid. Wear your name and be proud of it. Sports is not the place for political messages.
I prefer no names except one: Seton Hall
Then take the names and messages off the back of the jerseys. You play for the name on the front! Leave your politics back on the team bus.
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Ends up creating an environment where college players are much more likely to be booed. Not a good luck.
Too much. We are now going overboard. These are college kids that are playing a game of basketball. They should not be used as billboards.
What's next, designer suits on Wall Street with social messages stitched on the lapels?
What's next, designer suits on Wall Street with social messages stitched on the lapels?
This is student athlete compensation to some degree
But why does it have to be political, can it just be humanity unification solidarity messaging.
Not a good move-- everybody is going overboard to be more politically correct than the next. Where does it end ???
This is making it so easy to walk away from all sports. I'll I'll stick with my old man's softball league and Hope little Leaguers don't become political billboards
Would you be okay with a player having a pro-life message on their jersey?
When a cause gets hijacked for political purposes, it hurts the cause. Messages on student athlete jerseys can backfire.
https://nypost.com/2020/07/30/ncaa-will-let-athletes-wear-social-justice-messages-on-jerseys/
NCAA will let athletes wear social justice messages on uniform patches
By Dani Mohr
July 30, 2020 | 6:39pm
AP Photo
College athletes now have the freedom to to honor social justice causes they support.
The NCAA announced Thursday the Playing Rules Oversight Panel approved rules that allow athletes across all sports to wear patches on their uniforms in an effort to spread awareness for causes or issues they may be passionate about.
There are rules, however.
“The patch must not exceed 2¼ square inches and must be placed on the front or sleeve of the uniform,” the NCAA said in a release. “While all team members are required to wear the patch, they must be identical for those who choose to wear them.”
Players also have the option to put the patches in place of their last names as they traditionally would appear on the back of a jersey.
Though messages may vary by athlete, the NCAA intends that the patches, which may include names, mascots, nicknames, logos, and other marks, should “celebrate or memorialize people, events, or other causes.”
The NCAA’s announcement follows a growing trend of activism among professional leagues that have resumed since the coronavirus halt, including the MLB, NBA, NWSL, and WNBA.
MLB allows players to place patches on their sleeves that read “Black Lives Matter,” or “United for Change.” The NBA has “Black Lives Matter” written on the courts in their Orlando bubble, while players are allowed to put a pre-approved social justice message on their jerseys. Some WNBA players have actively replaced their names with those who have been killed by police, including Breonna Taylor.
Though the new NCAA rule may allow athletes to continue to speak out on causes, it is subjected to conference and school approval for each athlete.
NCAA will let athletes wear social justice messages on uniform patches
By Dani Mohr
July 30, 2020 | 6:39pm
AP Photo
College athletes now have the freedom to to honor social justice causes they support.
The NCAA announced Thursday the Playing Rules Oversight Panel approved rules that allow athletes across all sports to wear patches on their uniforms in an effort to spread awareness for causes or issues they may be passionate about.
There are rules, however.
“The patch must not exceed 2¼ square inches and must be placed on the front or sleeve of the uniform,” the NCAA said in a release. “While all team members are required to wear the patch, they must be identical for those who choose to wear them.”
Players also have the option to put the patches in place of their last names as they traditionally would appear on the back of a jersey.
Though messages may vary by athlete, the NCAA intends that the patches, which may include names, mascots, nicknames, logos, and other marks, should “celebrate or memorialize people, events, or other causes.”
The NCAA’s announcement follows a growing trend of activism among professional leagues that have resumed since the coronavirus halt, including the MLB, NBA, NWSL, and WNBA.
MLB allows players to place patches on their sleeves that read “Black Lives Matter,” or “United for Change.” The NBA has “Black Lives Matter” written on the courts in their Orlando bubble, while players are allowed to put a pre-approved social justice message on their jerseys. Some WNBA players have actively replaced their names with those who have been killed by police, including Breonna Taylor.
Though the new NCAA rule may allow athletes to continue to speak out on causes, it is subjected to conference and school approval for each athlete.
I hope Shavar puts He Hates Me on the back of his jersey.
Hopefully the Big East takes the lead in keeping the uniform focus on the student athlete (only their name, if any, on the back of the jersey) and the university they play for on the front. Keep the politics out of it and focus only on the sport you are playing.
Putting any of these political patches or slogans on a team jersey makes it seem as if the university and everyone it represents as a whole support that line of thinking which I’m sure many will not. We support the kid wearing the jersey, so his/her name can go on the back and we support the university on the front of the jersey. We do not all support the same political viewpoint so keep that crap off the uniforms. One team, one uniform.
Putting any of these political patches or slogans on a team jersey makes it seem as if the university and everyone it represents as a whole support that line of thinking which I’m sure many will not. We support the kid wearing the jersey, so his/her name can go on the back and we support the university on the front of the jersey. We do not all support the same political viewpoint so keep that crap off the uniforms. One team, one uniform.
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I do believe powers-that-be have opened a politically-correct can of worms, but.... no one seems to object to economic proselytizing on college kids' jerseys in the form of Nike, Adidas and Under Armour symbols. And look how politically tuned-in and corrupt they are.
Also, some may recall back in the era of JT1 at Georgetown, a player had his mother's last name printed on his uniform.
Also, some may recall back in the era of JT1 at Georgetown, a player had his mother's last name printed on his uniform.
So Justice, Peace, Equality, Freedom and Ally are political viewpoints that you do not support?
It explicitly says social justice, and I’m pretty sure there are some problems to be addressed if one political party or another is going to declare itself as directly against a social justice issue. Promoting equality and fighting discrimination based on race, sex, class, or anything else besides a person’s character is a humanitarian issue, not a political issue.
Nice in theory, terrible in practice. The all powerful and mighty dollar still runs the show. Will these messages get donors to give more or create new donors? My guess is yes but I think it will be minimal. Will any of these messages offend any donors who say I'm done with this crap? My guess is yes and I think the potential can be significant.
That horse left the barn years ago. They already are billboards. For the school, for the apparel company, for the broadcast partners. Mostly free labor at that. Wait until the NCAA decides to allow advertising on uniforms.
America is a great country where the flawed nature of humans in general means corruption and injustice can happen locally, and the lumbering nature of an absolutely massive nation means it can be too large or too slow to correct instances of injustice on the ground level without media attention to those cases. It’s precisely BECAUSE America is a great and just nation that any wrongful death or denial of the American dream to a citizen of this free country should be grieved, the cause found, and justice be served. When it’s because of another individual, we put them on trial and decide if they deserve to be put in prison. When it’s because of the negligence of a company or institution, they can be reformed or at least punished via damages to discourage a citizen from being hurt in the same way again. In the greatest nation on earth, we have the empathy and resources to take every untimely or unnecessary death of one of our citizens as a tragedy, no matter who they are. White, black, rich, poor, military, police, we’re all citizens who deserve life and the American dream
Where the hell did I say that!? Keep the politics out of it! For a school that bitches about the financial support of its fans and alumni (something that was somewhat debunked in a PirateCrew article because we haven’t had a capital campaign in forever, but I digress, that’s a different conversation for a different day), do you really want to risk pissing off a segment of the fan base and alumni that may not agree with the political message now being attached to their alma mater?
Actions have consequences. Don’t be stupid!
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i watched the nba last night and the messages were barely even noticeable. had to try to see them. in practice it wont be that big of a deal.
some of your discomfort is guided by need to weed out politics, some of it is guided by "old man yells at cloud" crankiness towards change. seriously, its not really noticeable. and 90% of the players will keep their names
some of your discomfort is guided by need to weed out politics, some of it is guided by "old man yells at cloud" crankiness towards change. seriously, its not really noticeable. and 90% of the players will keep their names
So the above would you be in favor or oppose those words?
So we have these incredibly wealthy entertainers that put tiny messages on their uniforms to do their part to change these perceived egregious injustices. They should do a little research on Rep. John Lewis and how he helped to effect real change.
Virtue signaling is about as weak as you can get and don’t see many athletes doing more than that.
Black lives matter org and movement is certainly political. For anyone to argue that is as delusional as someone arguing that all police officers are good, that there aren’t police practices that target poor black people or that prejudice only goes one way.
what do you expect? and not all athletes are virtue signalers. just because you have no idea what theyre doing doesnt mean they arent doing anything. Take kyrie for instance (who i dislike): Kyrie has donated $323k and 250k meals throughout NY, 200k Beyond Burgers to Food Bank of NYC, 3k masks and food trucks to Standing Rock Sioux Tribe, producing Breonna Taylor documentary, and started $1.5m fund for WNBA players.
pretty different use of his wealth compared to what you alluded to.
now im not on the side for advocating these jersey names. im just saying you watch athletes play sports, and ignore anything else for the most part. if you were worried by a tertiary story line go back to watching the WWE. some things intrude on your life, others dont. this definitely doesnt.
and again, for college... you dont think the players want their names? thats all they have. thats what they need to promote to make it to the next level. dont expect too many guys to do it unless you already know who they are.
Exactly what aren’t you getting here? I am not in favor of any messages for your support or opposition to any cause. University names, logos, mascots, player names and conference affiliation only. The only flag on a uniform should be that of the United States. Corporate logo of whoever made your uniform will be there as well, no getting away from that. The only other patch or similar that should be permitted would be a memorial patch of someone associated with the program who has passed away or similar.
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