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just received Bryan's official comment on Mike McBride and Hall Ball Events but still no reference to Mike W and Hall Hands on Deck.

Can someone further expand on Mike Frungillo role will be with Hall Ball
 
just received Bryan's official comment on Mike McBride and Hall Ball Events but still no reference to Mike W and Hall Hands on Deck.

Can someone further expand on Mike Frungillo role will be with Hall Ball
Frungillo’s dad owns Gourmet Dining which is Seton Hall’s dining services. Seems to be another inner circle buddy.
 
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just received Bryan's official comment on Mike McBride and Hall Ball Events but still no reference to Mike W and Hall Hands on Deck.

Can someone further expand on Mike Frungillo role will be with Hall Ball
Patience is a virtue. All will come out soon.

There are a ton of things happening that are being released one or so at a time.
 
Frungillo’s dad owns Gourmet Dining which is Seton Hall’s dining services. Seems to be another inner circle buddy.
I understand your love for the school. But this could be the most insane post you have made on the board.

The Frungillo family has done more for Seton Hall than probably every single poster on this site, COMBINED!!!! And you question the hire, WHY?
 
Why wouldn't you want someone who has actually donated big time to be in charge of fundraising?
Being able to donated big time and someone with actual big time fundraising experience are two different things. Maybe he (or his dad) can donate a ton of money but what kind of track record does he have in getting others to do the same?

Just because I can make a great steak doesn’t mean I know how to butcher a cow.
 
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I understand your love for the school. But this could be the most insane post you have made on the board.

The Frungillo family has done more for Seton Hall than probably every single poster on this site, COMBINED!!!! And you question the hire, WHY?
The Frungillo’s are in the food services business. I do appreciate their donations as they are much needed. However, what is Mike’s fundraising experience? There is a difference.

Start a school of hotel and restaurant management and make Mike the Dean and I understand that is where his experience lies. Just because his family donates to Seton Hall doesn’t mean he has fundraising experience. I donate to St, Jude’s, doesn’t mean I can cure childhood cancer.
 
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Being able to donated big time and someone with actual big time fundraising experience are two different things. Maybe he (or his dad) can donate a ton of money but what kind of track record does he have in getting others to do the same?

Just because I can make a great steak doesn’t mean I know how to butcher a cow.
But this is a little different because of what he’s fundraising for. This is basically fundraising for 3rd parties to benefit Seton Hall athletes. And no one can doubt Mike Frungillo’s passion for Seton Hall basketball, everyone has seen how he is at games.
 
Being able to donated big time and someone with actual big time fundraising experience are two different things. Maybe he (or his dad) can donate a ton of money but what kind of track record does he have in getting others to do the same?

Just because I can make a great steak doesn’t mean I know how to butcher a cow.
Big money people hang w big money people!!
 
The Frungillo’s are in the food services business. I do appreciate their donations as they are much needed. However, what is Mike’s fundraising experience? There is a difference.

Start a school of hotel and restaurant management and make Mike the Dean and I understand that is where his experience lies. Just because his family donates to Seton Hall doesn’t mean he has fundraising experience. I donate to St, Jude’s, doesn’t mean I can cure childhood cancer.

FWIW, I think this is a valid question to have. Maybe the original presentation of it is why its ruffled some feathers here, but nothing wrong with presenting a modicum of skepticism.

The Frungillos are great people. Their passion and loyalty for Seton Hall go without question and their generosity to SHU and SHU Athletics is second to none. But yeah, I can't fault someone for not just immediately slurping Kool Aid just because we know the name and who they are.

Maybe he will be fantastic in this role, maybe not. But you are right, a known name and a history of donations doesn't necessarily correlate to being able to lead a large "philanthropic" endeavor like this. Perhaps if more of his background or experience in these matters were presented in the release, it would make some feel better. The fact there isn't is either faulty PR or evidence that he, in fact, has less than one would expect in this role. Don't think him in the role at face value affects anyone's decision making as far as donating, that will come from how well or poorly he performs in it.

We here all have a different vantage point, but I'm also not blind to the optics and how they may appear to someone completely removed from our program. We have a great NIL initiative that has raised a lot of money and continues to be shunned by the University. The University, instead, throws their full support behind a far less transparent initiative that happens to be run by a friend of the Athletic Director. As the program grows, the former continues to be shunned in favor of the latter, with the latter now having the fundraising reigns to a longtime booster, who is also the President of a company that the University has a major vending contract with.

Can't blame anyone for being skeptical.
 
Can someone explain the difference in roles and the reporting structure with frungillo and McBride?
 
Big $ people didn't make their $ just giving it away. No doubt there is a ton of stuff going on behind the scenes.
 
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This is necessary, no matter how much i hate it and think it ruins the sport. However, how long can a school like Seton Hall keep this up? Say we are able to get a big time freshman or transfer. Say he comes with a $500,000 NIL deal and then has a monster season and requests 1 million or more, what do we do? We are going to be living 1 season at a time forever.
 
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The Frungillo’s are in the food services business. I do appreciate their donations as they are much needed. However, what is Mike’s fundraising experience? There is a difference.

Start a school of hotel and restaurant management and make Mike the Dean and I understand that is where his experience lies. Just because his family donates to Seton Hall doesn’t mean he has fundraising experience. I donate to St, Jude’s, doesn’t mean I can cure childhood cancer.

He's in a unique position in that moreso than anybody else, he's already put his money where his mouth is and continues to do so.

I imagine Mike will only be working on major donors and it's a good fit because when someone's asking you to make a large donation to their cause, the message hits differently when the person asking is also contributing what they're asking for. The message changes from "bankroll this cause for me" to "join in helping this cause with me," and that's a lot more convincing.
 
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He's in a unique position in that moreso than anybody else, he's already put his money where his mouth is and continues to do so.

I imagine Mike will only be working on major donors and it's a good fit because then someone's asking you to make a large donation to their cause, the message hits differently when the person asking is also contributing what they're asking for. The message changes from "bankroll this cause for me" to "join in helping this cause with me," and that's a lot more convincing.
You also have the little guy who puts his money where his mouth is, and understands the smaller donors. The smaller donors can provide a substantial amount of support.
 
You also have the little guy who puts his money where his mouth is, and understands the smaller donors. The smaller donors can provide a substantial amount of support.
100%, it's about being able to connect with the people you're asking for donations from and the same person isn't necessarily the most effective at connecting with both groups. In reality, I'd guess it's very likely that someone who connects very well with 1 group (large or small donors) probably struggles to connect with the other group.
 
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The Frungillo’s are in the food services business. I do appreciate their donations as they are much needed. However, what is Mike’s fundraising experience? There is a difference.

Start a school of hotel and restaurant management and make Mike the Dean and I understand that is where his experience lies. Just because his family donates to Seton Hall doesn’t mean he has fundraising experience. I donate to St, Jude’s, doesn’t mean I can cure childhood cancer.
1. The fact that the Frungillo family runs an incredibly successful chain of restaurants means that right off the bat we know they are good businessmen.

2. The family is wealthy and has been more than kind in sharing that wealth with the school, To the tune of a recent $1M grant to the Practice Facility and a 6 figure commitment to the NIL, a number I can't share but is MOST impressive.

3. Because Mike is now the sales face of our NIL, it stands to reason that the Frungillo family will continue their mega donations to the cause.

4. I assume you have never met Mike, because if you did you would never have even hinted that this hire seems to be another inner circle buddy. Mike is outgoing, passionate, friendly and as intelligent as anyone you could meet. All prerequisites for the job he is being hired for.

This is an unimageable positive for Seton Hall. It boggles my mind how anyone would criticize the move.
 
1. The fact that the Frungillo family runs an incredibly successful chain of restaurants means that right off the bat we know they are good businessmen.

2. The family is wealthy and has been more than kind in sharing that wealth with the school, To the tune of a recent $1M grant to the Practice Facility and a 6 figure commitment to the NIL, a number I can't share but is MOST impressive.

3. Because Mike is now the sales face of our NIL, it stands to reason that the Frungillo family will continue their mega donations to the cause.

4. I assume you have never met Mike, because if you did you would never have even hinted that this hire seems to be another inner circle buddy. Mike is as outgoing, friendly and as intelligent as anyone you could meet. All prerequisites for the job he is being hired for.

This is an unimageable positive for Seton Hall. It boggles my mind how anyone would criticize the move.
Mike is extremely outgoing. No one loves SHU than him. He is extraordinarily generous. What more can we hope for?
 
I have no words for the initial response to this. Poster who screams about the school doing nothing and people not giving and ending every damn sentence with an exclamation point bitches because the school does something and a donor steps up in a huge way. By the way, his dad doesn’t run GDS, he does.

Inner circle? Guess you piss on those close to SHU who care and give?

And before you shout nepotism of some sort, do you understand the services offered by the various arms of GDS and that SHU is a relatively small contract? They do most of RU including the RAC and Highpoint, but do you see Mike as the face of their NIL?
 
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I never met Mike until last year at the NIL opening of their sub-house in West Orange.

A group of us were outside sitting at a table when Mike comes out with multiple 2 liter bottles of soda on the house. He talks with us for a while like we were best friends.

Months later I'm at the Highlawn Pavilion at a Seton Hall event with about 15 people. Many of great wealth. Again, Mike doesn't know me from Adam yet he comes over and we talk BB, a passion for him.

I can't think of a better qualified person to assume the NIL role as the face of our sales effort.
 
A guy who runs a successful business deals with many vendors who sell them lots of stuff. And knows others in his business. And now we have just such a guy, a hugely pro shu guy, associated with our efforts. And he is young and personable.
 
It would be great if everyone here could ratchet down the emotion a bit when trying to have a dialogue on topics like this. Not everyone is privy to the information or level of understanding others here may have here regarding the University, the program, the major donors, supporters, etc. While some here may find certain opinions or thought processes ridiculous, those are formed based on what people can see and what they know - which is obviously different.

Personally, I think this is a great hire. I don't have the knowledge or insight that Dan, Sami, or others have have but I have enough to know the kind of job he can do and where his heart lays. That said, I think it's unnecessary to come down on people here with such vigor for not immediately sharing the sentiment. While everyone here is fully interested in knowing all of the people and the details of who helps support our alma mater, it's often met here (and understandably so) with a lot of obfuscation and anonymity.

Objectively, the optics of how all of this looks could easily appear questionable to someone removed from our fanbase/alumni base. That is bolstered by the fact of how hard of a time Mike Walsh is getting from the University and how everyone currently involved and acknowledged is affiliated with one another at a level that could easily be considered a conflict of interest.

I know this a message board so everyone is quick to say things in a manner they may not do so in "the real world", but it would be wonderful if we all recognize the root of people's opinions here and how to have a more meaningful dialogue about them. We're borderline yelling at people here because some posters don't understand "the greatness that is the Frungillo family" when perhaps being more measured and offering some real insight on what makes them great would be helpful.

I'm sure this post will be met with hostility too, but so be it.
 
It would be great if everyone here could ratchet down the emotion a bit when trying to have a dialogue on topics like this. Not everyone is privy to the information or level of understanding others here may have here regarding the University, the program, the major donors, supporters, etc. While some here may find certain opinions or thought processes ridiculous, those are formed based on what people can see and what they know - which is obviously different.

Personally, I think this is a great hire. I don't have the knowledge or insight that Dan, Sami, or others have have but I have enough to know the kind of job he can do and where his heart lays. That said, I think it's unnecessary to come down on people here with such vigor for not immediately sharing the sentiment. While everyone here is fully interested in knowing all of the people and the details of who helps support our alma mater, it's often met here (and understandably so) with a lot of obfuscation and anonymity.

Objectively, the optics of how all of this looks could easily appear questionable to someone removed from our fanbase/alumni base. That is bolstered by the fact of how hard of a time Mike Walsh is getting from the University and how everyone currently involved and acknowledged is affiliated with one another at a level that could easily be considered a conflict of interest.

I know this a message board so everyone is quick to say things in a manner they may not do so in "the real world", but it would be wonderful if we all recognize the root of people's opinions here and how to have a more meaningful dialogue about them. We're borderline yelling at people here because some posters don't understand "the greatness that is the Frungillo family" when perhaps being more measured and offering some real insight on what makes them great would be helpful.

I'm sure this post will be met with hostility too, but so be it.
Many posters literally complain about everything. Nothing is good enough. Evidence? Look at how the athletic department has been pilloried re Olympic sports— how many of those same posters credit the administration for softball? Baseball has made the BE tournament most of the time over the past decade— not good enough.
 
If you don’t really know the situation fully , why comment negatively. Just listen to the people who do know. If you knew everything what would be left to know?
It's a message board. By design, people express their feelings and opinions. Otherwise, this is just a blog for the well-informed, no?
 
It's a message board. By design, people express their feelings and opinions. Otherwise, this is just a blog for the well-informed, no?
Fine, say whatever you want about anybody or anything. Have fun. Even if you don’t know what you’re talking about. Just have fun posting. Go for it.
 
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The Frungillo’s are in the food services business. I do appreciate their donations as they are much needed. However, what is Mike’s fundraising experience? There is a difference.

Start a school of hotel and restaurant management and make Mike the Dean and I understand that is where his experience lies. Just because his family donates to Seton Hall doesn’t mean he has fundraising experience. I donate to St, Jude’s, doesn’t mean I can cure childhood cancer.
IPOD- idiot post of the day in a close vote
 
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It would be great if everyone here could ratchet down the emotion a bit when trying to have a dialogue on topics like this. Not everyone is privy to the information or level of understanding others here may have here regarding the University, the program, the major donors, supporters, etc. While some here may find certain opinions or thought processes ridiculous, those are formed based on what people can see and what they know - which is obviously different.

Personally, I think this is a great hire. I don't have the knowledge or insight that Dan, Sami, or others have have but I have enough to know the kind of job he can do and where his heart lays. That said, I think it's unnecessary to come down on people here with such vigor for not immediately sharing the sentiment. While everyone here is fully interested in knowing all of the people and the details of who helps support our alma mater, it's often met here (and understandably so) with a lot of obfuscation and anonymity.

Objectively, the optics of how all of this looks could easily appear questionable to someone removed from our fanbase/alumni base. That is bolstered by the fact of how hard of a time Mike Walsh is getting from the University and how everyone currently involved and acknowledged is affiliated with one another at a level that could easily be considered a conflict of interest.

I know this a message board so everyone is quick to say things in a manner they may not do so in "the real world", but it would be wonderful if we all recognize the root of people's opinions here and how to have a more meaningful dialogue about them. We're borderline yelling at people here because some posters don't understand "the greatness that is the Frungillo family" when perhaps being more measured and offering some real insight on what makes them great would be helpful.

I'm sure this post will be met with hostility too, but so be it.

Opinions that don't line up with the "official line" from the good ole boys have been treated with sarcasm, nastiness or condescension on this board going back many, many years. It is what it is. I agree with you, but I'm not surprised by the tone on this thread.
 
Sometimes such a tone is necessary. Balance is the key and when you get comments from a poster who clearly cares about the school but has criticized just about everything they have done for months and continues in that vein after the Hall has answered his biggest concern with the breaking news of their NIL plan, that results in a thread like this one.

The good ole boys comment from you is no different than the criticism from posters on this thread to the negativity. Meaning both sides choose to see the extremes. I do that at times and if you are willing to admit it you do as well.

Maybe somewhere in the middle is an approach best served. Then the dialogue will improve.

The sky is not falling and neither is it all sunshine and rainbows.
 
The criticism is a result of the announcement…. Moving forward is a good development for a department that has been less active than others….. with an Undergraduate sport’s management program, you would have to be hopeful that there were other candidates that had both direct work experiences in fund raising and sport’s marketing for this type of position. Taking someone from the community that already supports the program is a head scratcher unless there were no others that had interest…. No doubt the business qualifications are well established. The school is making a huge bet that 30+ years in the food business translates to the world of NIL…. But who knows, perhaps an entrepreneur, with his own food and beverage industry contacts can lead the effort and employ those with sports marketing experience and emerge as a trailblazer in this undefined world… we need him to be successful so let’s get behind this appointment.

 
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Please understand that this is a team effort. Eric has an expertise honed over 20 years in the business that makes him very well qualified to work on the logistical part of the NIL equation.

Mike on the other hand has strengths of business acumen and the perfect personality and passion to handle the sales side of the equation.

Hopefully the two will coordinate with our own Mike Walsh and let him continue to do what he does best, crowdfunding. That is being ironed out as we speak.

Then of course we have Michael McBride, his duties have already been well documented.

I have all the confidence in the world that these four individuals have the ability to be the face of our NIL efforts and those efforts with our help, as we support both them and Seton Hall will have the desired effect.
 
I think some may be confused about the different announcements and responsibilities.

Michael Frungillo was not hired by the school for a paid position. His role will not be to find creative NIL opportunities for players or find ways to market them. His job will simply be to help lead the fundraising efforts of Hall Ball, to forge relationships with donors and sell why one should donate to pay SH players. I believe these tasks are well-suited to his skills and experience. He's extremely well-connected within NJ and among SH supporters.

Think of Frungillo as the leading face of our Collective. Many schools have an Executive Board of individuals leading their Collective. I'd like to see a few more added to the team but Frungillo is a great start and lead.

Michael McBride, on the other hand, was hired directly by the school as associate AD to lead NIL and revenue generation. He will have the duties to find ways to market the school and its players to corporations and local businesses. Develop true NIL opportunities for players and marketing partnerships with SH. I don't know him but he seems to have a very qualified resume and I like what he said in Jerry's article.

I think both are solid moves for our school and we are in far better standing to compete in this environment than we were a couple of weeks ago.
 
I think some may be confused about the different announcements and responsibilities.

Michael Frungillo was not hired by the school for a paid position. His role will not be to find creative NIL opportunities for players or find ways to market them. His job will simply be to help lead the fundraising efforts of Hall Ball, to forge relationships with donors and sell why one should donate to pay SH players. I believe these tasks are well-suited to his skills and experience. He's extremely well-connected within NJ and among SH supporters.

Think of Frungillo as the leading face of our Collective. Many schools have an Executive Board of individuals leading their Collective. I'd like to see a few more added to the team but Frungillo is a great start and lead.

Michael McBride, on the other hand, was hired directly by the school as associate AD to lead NIL and revenue generation. He will have the duties to find ways to market the school and its players to corporations and local businesses. Develop true NIL opportunities for players and marketing partnerships with SH. I don't know him but he seems to have a very qualified resume and I like what he said in Jerry's article.

I think both are solid moves for our school and we are in far better standing to compete in this environment than we were a couple of weeks ago.
Well said, sad people needed it explained like this.
 
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