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NJ’s big time college FB team

Is perhaps not quite the juggernaut that Politi predicted. And keep in mind no bigger booster for rehiring Schiano than Politi who advocated “give him whatever he wants” to Hobbs.

Schiano was given a big contract and whatever he wanted at ru. The hire was a big mistake but nobody else really wanted the job . His resume is average at best . Failure in the NFL, at ru one big win against Louisville his first time around and some second rate bowl games. Now they are stuck with him. Eating his big state contract should not happen.RU Rah, Rah !! Hahahaha !!!!!!!!!!
 
Who cares about football, I'm worried about their basketball team. Most of their guys did the tunnel 2 towers 5K run a couple weeks ago in NYC. To be honest they're a bunch of very nice young men talking and greeting a lot of random people. They're young, but they're big. Going to be a good test for us for sure.
 
Who cares about football, I'm worried about their basketball team. Most of their guys did the tunnel 2 towers 5K run a couple weeks ago in NYC. To be honest they're a bunch of very nice young men talking and greeting a lot of random people. They're young, but they're big. Going to be a good test for us for sure.
Big issue is can the Coach manage them. Or will they be kids with pocketful of $$ looking to the next stage.
 
Big issue is can the Coach manage them. Or will they be kids with pocketful of $$ looking to the next stage.
That's being a Seton Hall fan and reliving 2000-2001 all over again. But since then we've seen a lot of teams get really good seeds and/or make good runs in March with freshmen going to the next level. Yeah there's the occassional year it blows up in a teams face but overall I'd bet that's not even happening 2 times out of 10 when a program gets 2 McDAA's. I think the bigger question will be their physical strength. In the world of transfers everywhere you can have a team of 18 year olds going up against a team of 23-24 year olds.
 
Schiano was given a big contract and whatever he wanted at ru. The hire was a big mistake but nobody else really wanted the job . His resume is average at best . Failure in the NFL, at ru one big win against Louisville his first time around and some second rate bowl games. Now they are stuck with him. Eating his big state contract should not happen.RU Rah, Rah !! Hahahaha !!!!!!!!!!
The “coach” no one wanted and the “team” no one wanted to coach!
 
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Schiano will some day be the biggest state of NJ Pensioner regardless of what he ends up achieving at Rutgers.
If I remember correctly, even if they counted his original hire, he began his time at Rutgers after state university employees stopped being eligible for PERS, the public employees' retirement system. I think the cutoff was anyone hired after 6/30/00, and he was hired that December.

So at least there's that.

He will probably wind up being a big buyout for the next AD at some point, however.
 
If I remember correctly, even if they counted his original hire, he began his time at Rutgers after state university employees stopped being eligible for PERS, the public employees' retirement system. I think the cutoff was anyone hired after 6/30/00, and he was hired that December.

So at least there's that.

He will probably wind up being a big buyout for the next AD at some point, however.
Honestly they will never get big time FB right.
 
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If I remember correctly, even if they counted his original hire, he began his time at Rutgers after state university employees stopped being eligible for PERS, the public employees' retirement system. I think the cutoff was anyone hired after 6/30/00, and he was hired that December.

So at least there's that.

He will probably wind up being a big buyout for the next AD at some point, however.

I don't see him ever getting canned. So long as he is putting together .500 or better teams and going to bowls there will never be any strong groundswell against him, and no President or AD is going to want to waste political capital to force him out. For example IIRC Pat Hobbs wanted someone else as HC instead of Schiano 2.0 and he lost that battle.
 
I don't see him ever getting canned. So long as he is putting together .500 or better teams and going to bowls there will never be any strong groundswell against him, and no President or AD is going to want to waste political capital to force him out. For example IIRC Pat Hobbs wanted someone else as HC instead of Schiano 2.0 and he lost that battle.
As long as the fanbase remains trapped in their Stockholm Syndrome mindset of "He's the best we can do; who else could we get?," he probably will work on his own terms. That was silly in 2019 and it's being exposed now, though, so can he maintain the illusion forever? As the "superleague" begins to take shape over the next decade, they're going to get pretty antsy about (totally justifiable) fears of being left behind if they can't establish some national football brand soon. The clock is ticking.

The Big Ten giftwrapped Rutgers a nine-win season this year, with no Ohio State, Michigan (who isn't very good, as it turns out), or Penn State on the schedule, and they don't seem poised to take advantage of it. With the foundations of the game in flux, the stakes are much higher than they were for them 15 years ago, and years and years of data show that Schiano is what he is: terrific at making a bottom-feeder respectable, but not very capable of making a respectable team very good. That very good and talented 2006 team can only be seen as an outlier, and beginning that next week, Schiano was just 17-21 in the rest of his Big East conference games before he left for the Bucs.

They are a Big Ten football program in a talent-rich state. There is an actual infrastructure there and plenty of advantages. It's not 1999 anymore. Are they Ohio State in terms of resources? No. But they're a very attractive situation for a coach who wants to lead a Big Ten program, but the base (and many within the university) are in some hopelessly devoted thrall to that middler.
 
As long as the fanbase remains trapped in their Stockholm Syndrome mindset of "He's the best we can do; who else could we get?," he probably will work on his own terms. That was silly in 2019 and it's being exposed now, though, so can he maintain the illusion forever? As the "superleague" begins to take shape over the next decade, they're going to get pretty antsy about (totally justifiable) fears of being left behind if they can't establish some national football brand soon. The clock is ticking.

The Big Ten giftwrapped Rutgers a nine-win season this year, with no Ohio State, Michigan (who isn't very good, as it turns out), or Penn State on the schedule, and they don't seem poised to take advantage of it. With the foundations of the game in flux, the stakes are much higher than they were for them 15 years ago, and years and years of data show that Schiano is what he is: terrific at making a bottom-feeder respectable, but not very capable of making a respectable team very good. That very good and talented 2006 team can only be seen as an outlier, and beginning that next week, Schiano was just 17-21 in the rest of his Big East conference games before he left for the Bucs.

They are a Big Ten football program in a talent-rich state. There is an actual infrastructure there and plenty of advantages. It's not 1999 anymore. Are they Ohio State in terms of resources? No. But they're a very attractive situation for a coach who wants to lead a Big Ten program, but the base (and many within the university) are in some hopelessly devoted thrall to that middler.

I agree with the above. I think it's obvious by now to anyone that Schiano has a ceiling at what he can accomplish at Rutgers. It's not taking away from what he accomplished there to acknowledge that reality. I think he was the right choice in 2019 given where they were and given the other options given where they were as a program, but if they think they can pay up for a top-tier coach from the ACC or Big 12 or somewhere else to go there and try to elevate that program then they should.

I wonder if Stephen Belichick continues his rise if he would be a candidate someday. That would be interesting lol..
 
They need to go back to the A10. Maybe the NJAC will take them, then they can play against to other NJ state schools where they belong. At least then the losses wouldn’t cost the state as much.
 
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And Schiano was one of the two reasons that Hobbs was angling for a new contract? Sheeez…
 
The nice thing about saturdays in the fall after the WS is no sports on tv worth watching to keep me inside.

At least for me.
 
Well he has 6.25 million reasons to spout that bull**** this season & it goes up next year too. No school president or AD to answer to -- no Ohio St or Penn St to worry about this season--damn he's got it made.
 
They have a pretty easy schedule the rest of the way. Schiano will get his 6 wins and low level bowl appearance, thereby safeguarding his mediocrity for more years to come 😂.
 
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They have a pretty easy schedule the rest of the way. Schiano will get his 6 wins and low level bowl appearance, thereby safeguarding his mediocrity for more years to come 😂.
There’s not an easy win on the schedule.

Rutgers fans are saying they’re not winning another game.

If you think that, you’re not watching. They have zero ability to stop anyone. They were lucky Washington had multiple self-inflicted wounds.
 
There’s not an easy win on the schedule.

Rutgers fans are saying they’re not winning another game.

If you think that, you’re not watching. They have zero ability to stop anyone. They were lucky Washington had multiple self-inflicted wounds.
Minnesota is mediocre.
USC not so good.
Michigan State not so good.
Etc. Etc.
 
They have a pretty easy schedule the rest of the way. Schiano will get his 6 wins and low level bowl appearance, thereby safeguarding his mediocrity for more years to come 😂.

There’s not an easy win on the schedule.

Rutgers fans are saying they’re not winning another game.

If you think that, you’re not watching. They have zero ability to stop anyone. They were lucky Washington had multiple self-inflicted wounds.
It's not a great schedule but they can easily lose out. Their best chance at a win is after a bye week against Minnesota at home.

Who thinks they're winning road games? Or beating a ranked team? That's four of five games.
 
It's not a great schedule but they can easily lose out. Their best chance at a win is after a bye week against Minnesota at home.

Who thinks they're winning road games? Or beating a ranked team? That's four of five games.
I would be greatly entertained by them losing the rest of their games. Perhaps it will be an bad omen for their highly anticipated basketball season. Lol
 
Minnesota is mediocre.
USC not so good.
Michigan State not so good.
Etc. Etc.
They didn't really play any tough teams up to this point, either. That's the idea - that between Schiano's always-creampuff nonconference schedule, the easiest slate of games ever to masqueade as a Big Ten schedule, and the list of returning players, this year set up for them to win eight or nine games without any particular luck. And they aren't going to come close.
 
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They didn't really play any tough teams up to this point, either. That's the idea - that between Schiano's always-creampuff nonconference schedule, the easiest slate of games ever to masqueade as a Big Ten schedule, and the list of returning players, this year set up for them to win eight or nine games without any particular luck. Any they aren't going to come close.
Family friend has a kid on the team and I've watched more than I have in my entire life. They would've been better off with no luck than the luck they got.

-Mo Toure out before season started
-Down to 3rd string tight end
-Left guard out for year
-Powell in and out of the lineup with injuries
-Longerbeam in and out of lineup with injuries
-Rainey in and out of lineup with injuries
-Edge rushers in and out of lineup with injuries

We were a totally different team with one guy out with general soreness. I'm sure they can handle an injury or two but not this many.
 
Family friend has a kid on the team and I've watched more than I have in my entire life. They would've been better off with no luck than the luck they got.

-Mo Toure out before season started
-Down to 3rd string tight end
-Left guard out for year
-Powell in and out of the lineup with injuries
-Longerbeam in and out of lineup with injuries
-Rainey in and out of lineup with injuries
-Edge rushers in and out of lineup with injuries

We were a totally different team with one guy out with general soreness. I'm sure they can handle an injury or two but not this many.
Yup, the injuries have been unkind to them (particularly Toure), but UCLA has probably suffered more injuries to key people than any team in college football, so it wouldn't explain this game. Wisconsin also managed without their starting QB and RB.
 
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