Observations from a 79-51 blow out loss to St. John’s

[LeftCoastPirates]

Honestly not much to say this time around. The students in attendance tried to create an atmosphere around Kadary. But that energy got drained from the building following a 1-19 start from the floor by the Pirates.

BLUE TINTED GLASSES

• If you wear them, go right ahead and fill in the blanks, because I have absolutely nothing to include in this section.

SOUR GRAPES AND GRIPES

• I don’t want to hear about the deflections and steals Dual had. He is a train wreck on the offensive side of the ball. After two games of extended minutes, he makes you badly desire DAW back at PG.
• Our situation at center is bleak. The production we get from our 3 headed effort is non-existent, both offensively and defensively. Combined - 7 points 9 rebounds - 10 fouls. Meanwhile Ejiofor had 15 and 9 in 24 minutes and their frosh blocked 5 shots.
• The secret is out. Stop Coleman (1/13) and Jenkins (1/7) and Seton Hall won’t be able to break 60 points.
• The team has no PG, 17 turnovers leading to 29 SJU points, most of them highlight dunks. And I am not touching the Harmon topic with a 10 foot pole after reading the other thread.
• Today, the team couldn’t shoot, pass, dribble, or hold onto the ball. And I am not sure how much credit I can give St. John’s for that. Tim Brandon summed it up in the first half when he said “I have never seen so many bunnies turn into bricks.”

I guess if I wanted to go back to the Blue Tinted Glasses section, I am shocked they didn’t lose by 40+ today.

 

[Seton00]

Honestly not much to say this time around. The students in attendance tried to create an atmosphere around Kadary. But that energy got drained from the building following a 1-19 start from the floor by the Pirates.

BLUE TINTED GLASSES

• If you wear them, go right ahead and fill in the blanks, because I have absolutely nothing to include in this section.

SOUR GRAPES AND GRIPES

• I don’t want to hear about the deflections and steals Dual had. He is a train wreck on the offensive side of the ball. After two games of extended minutes, he makes you badly desire DAW back at PG.
• Our situation at center is bleak. The production we get from our 3 headed effort is non-existent, both offensively and defensively. Combined - 7 points 9 rebounds - 10 fouls. Meanwhile Ejiofor had 15 and 9 in 24 minutes and their frosh blocked 5 shots.
• The secret is out. Stop Coleman (1/13) and Jenkins (1/7) and Seton Hall won’t be able to break 60 points.
• The team has no PG, 17 turnovers leading to 29 SJU points, most of them highlight dunks. And I am not touching the Harmon topic with a 10 foot pole after reading the other thread.
• Today, the team couldn’t shoot, pass, dribble, or hold onto the ball. And I am not sure how much credit I can give St. John’s for that. Tim Brandon summed it up in the first half when he said “I have never seen so many bunnies turn into bricks.”

I guess if I wanted to go back to the Blue Tinted Glasses section, I am shocked they didn’t lose by 40+ today.

Nothing I can argue with here. I will say, they did show more heart in the 2nd half, but just didn't have the horses to make it a game.

Pun intended. 🤣

 

[TheHall87]

Honestly not much to say this time around. The students in attendance tried to create an atmosphere around Kadary. But that energy got drained from the building following a 1-19 start from the floor by the Pirates.

BLUE TINTED GLASSES

• If you wear them, go right ahead and fill in the blanks, because I have absolutely nothing to include in this section.

SOUR GRAPES AND GRIPES

• I don’t want to hear about the deflections and steals Dual had. He is a train wreck on the offensive side of the ball. After two games of extended minutes, he makes you badly desire DAW back at PG.
• Our situation at center is bleak. The production we get from our 3 headed effort is non-existent, both offensively and defensively. Combined - 7 points 9 rebounds - 10 fouls. Meanwhile Ejiofor had 15 and 9 in 24 minutes and their frosh blocked 5 shots.
• The secret is out. Stop Coleman (1/13) and Jenkins (1/7) and Seton Hall won’t be able to break 60 points.
• The team has no PG, 17 turnovers leading to 29 SJU points, most of them highlight dunks. And I am not touching the Harmon topic with a 10 foot pole after reading the other thread.
• Today, the team couldn’t shoot, pass, dribble, or hold onto the ball. And I am not sure how much credit I can give St. John’s for that. Tim Brandon summed it up in the first half when he said “I have never seen so many bunnies turn into bricks.”

I guess if I wanted to go back to the Blue Tinted Glasses section, I am shocked they didn’t lose by 40+ today.

Small correction. We started 1-21. We were at 4.8% when Jenkins made his shot.

It's never a good sign when the opposing point guard has more assists than you have baskets or two kids dressed in cow suits make more field goals than you do in a half.

On a side note, thank the lord for Prince Aligbe making a shot before the first media timeout. I was having visions of standing for most of the first half.

 

[dehere23]

Honestly not much to say this time around. The students in attendance tried to create an atmosphere around Kadary. But that energy got drained from the building following a 1-19 start from the floor by the Pirates.

BLUE TINTED GLASSES

• If you wear them, go right ahead and fill in the blanks, because I have absolutely nothing to include in this section.

SOUR GRAPES AND GRIPES

• I don’t want to hear about the deflections and steals Dual had. He is a train wreck on the offensive side of the ball. After two games of extended minutes, he makes you badly desire DAW back at PG.
• Our situation at center is bleak. The production we get from our 3 headed effort is non-existent, both offensively and defensively. Combined - 7 points 9 rebounds - 10 fouls. Meanwhile Ejiofor had 15 and 9 in 24 minutes and their frosh blocked 5 shots.
• The secret is out. Stop Coleman (1/13) and Jenkins (1/7) and Seton Hall won’t be able to break 60 points.
• The team has no PG, 17 turnovers leading to 29 SJU points, most of them highlight dunks. And I am not touching the Harmon topic with a 10 foot pole after reading the other thread.
• Today, the team couldn’t shoot, pass, dribble, or hold onto the ball. And I am not sure how much credit I can give St. John’s for that. Tim Brandon summed it up in the first half when he said “I have never seen so many bunnies turn into bricks.”

I guess if I wanted to go back to the Blue Tinted Glasses section, I am shocked they didn’t lose by 40+ today.

Not much to add. I thought we'd have a legit chance on this one, and picked us for the upset, because of (a) the Sport's Gods and (b) the combination of us hitting a ton of 3s, them missing 3s, no Dev Smith and us "mucking up" the game enough.

What I will say is that I actually think some of the offensive improvement/output we saw in prior games isn't a TOTAL mirage because St. John's did to us what they do to everyone right now, it seems. Pitino has them playing a Sampson/Houston level type defense, just without as much size or as many good athletes as Houston typically has in that system. They have made a lot of teams in the league and non-conference look like they can't shoot, pass, dribble or hold onto the ball. And we got the B+ version of that, because Dev Smith spearheads all that for them and he was clearly playing compromised with the shoulder.

Last observation -- something is going on between Coleman and Sha, IMO. I don't like being the "body language" doctor from TV, but after Sha's comments last game plus tonight, something is up.

 

[dehere23]

Small correction. We started 1-21. We were at 4.8% when Jenkins made his shot.

It's never a good sign when the opposing point guard has more assists than you have baskets or two kids dressed in cow suits make more field goals than you do in a half.

On a side note, thank the lord for Prince Aligbe making a shot before the first media timeout. I was having visions of standing for most of the first half.

Prince continues to look like he may actually be able to give us something as a small ball 4 against certain teams. The problem is when you face a team that has the athletes and/or size that SJU does and plays team defense like they do, its much more difficult than against the Depaul's, Butler's and even Providence's of the world.

 

[nutterforthree]

Not much to add. I thought we'd have a legit chance on this one, and picked us for the upset, because of (a) the Sport's Gods and (b) the combination of us hitting a ton of 3s, them missing 3s, no Dev Smith and us "mucking up" the game enough.

What I will say is that I actually think some of the offensive improvement/output we saw in prior games isn't a TOTAL mirage because St. John's did to us what they do to everyone right now, it seems. Pitino has them playing a Sampson/Houston level type defense, just without as much size or as many good athletes as Houston typically has in that system. They have made a lot of teams in the league and non-conference look like they can't shoot, pass, dribble or hold onto the ball. And we got the B+ version of that, because Dev Smith spearheads all that for them and he was clearly playing compromised with the shoulder.

Last observation -- something is going on between Coleman and Sha, IMO. I don't like being the "body language" doctor from TV, but after Sha's comments last game plus tonight, something is up.

Yea he is probably pissed because he is by far the best player on the team and his coach has used the media to call him out multiple times for no reason.