Mike McBride is not involved with (nor allowed to) courting top potential donors like George Kurtz of CrowdStrike, current net worth about $6.7 billion, or 3x that of St. John's Vitamin Water guy. Someone like Kurtz would give to the university first. I have no idea if he even cares about basketball, his sport is race car driving.
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I’d be shocked if McBride is here next year. It’s becoming career suicide. Unless he’s making such substantial money that it’s worth the punishment he’s gonna have to resign to save himself.
And at that point with the relentless negative press about our situation who on their right mind would sign up to replace him.
Might as well save money and let the business students make it their finial project for graduation
Yep. He sets his market.
You heard the narrative about Samuel would never get what Florida offered. Would have been money well spent. Add Samuel and probably Bediako at the 5 and you have a really dangerous team and change narrative of the program.
We need help in this area. Like the fiasco when DAW went into the portal. He needs to adjust.
I mean as of this past off-season Sha was basically saying --- how dare these players ask for this money, who do they think they are? They aren't worth this.
He didn't want to pay them, well he is certainly paying now!
He didn't want to pay them, well he is certainly paying now!
To be clear..we have super low amounts to offer so it wouldn’t really matter that much anyway but that is my experience of a coach telling me how it operates
1a money
1b money
1c money
2a- others you mentioned
Sad but this is reality of the current situation. Money is all that matters for majority of college athletes. Btw. Unfortunately, Seton Hall doesn’t have much to offer on any items on the list. We can hopefully be somewhat competitive but constant ncaa tournament bids will be tough under current situation.
Another thing: not sure if this will make people feel better or worse
The new “rule of the land” is constant, 24/7 tampering at all times
It sounds like we DONT do this as much…I’m not sure if that’s totally accurate but from what I heard we seem to sort of “play by the rules”
The new “rule of the land” is constant, 24/7 tampering at all times
It sounds like we DONT do this as much…I’m not sure if that’s totally accurate but from what I heard we seem to sort of “play by the rules”
We have plenty of money to build a respectable roster. We don't have sufficient money to try to get 11 players that can all interchangeably contribute.
Lesson learned. Let's see if Sha changes or bails. I really disliked his presser quote about playing the hand he was dealt. Smacks of "I'm not complaining" and then complains.
We need to get a platform with Crowd Strike That’s where the $$$ are.
imo what pitino said is what people need to hear. and he didnt need to add that if we were even close kr was staying. the nrts toovsoto. is that sacage or pkaying bybtge rules?
I realize that early this year. This seems exactly right and it’s almost such an old school approach since Sha himself didn’t see that kind of money when he played.
And he would have gotten over $2mm.
He thinks he can coach kids up.
I think it’s finally ringing clear that he can’t. And he’s eating humble pie big time.
But on the other hand, if he doesn't say something nothing will get done.
Louisville seperated with him when it seemed like the heat was on. He essentially was exonerated from the whole saga with andre mcghee.
Do you think you know the ongoings of the the shu roster under amaker and orr?
Pitino is a maniac. He is driven, high-energy, and pushes every angle. He's relentless and a mercenary himself. I wouldn't be surprised at all if his people have already texted Coleman, LOL! He knows you have to cultivate a fan base, have facilities, etc. And because of who he is, you basically sign the whole operation over to him. He'll get his guys in the Administrative positions, like AD. This is what he's doing at St. John's.
They're constantly doing outreach, they do all kinds of things with the media including regular shows and marketing pieces, etc. We can't get Popkin to do a weekly 1/2 hour show even? Make it all more accessible, relatable.
That's what The Hall needs. Maybe Sha can figure it out how to activate all that stuff. I hope so.
They're constantly doing outreach, they do all kinds of things with the media including regular shows and marketing pieces, etc. We can't get Popkin to do a weekly 1/2 hour show even? Make it all more accessible, relatable.
That's what The Hall needs. Maybe Sha can figure it out how to activate all that stuff. I hope so.
SJU has been aggressively working the NIL space for years. Getting Pitino helped put it into a new gear
Mike Repole is a great supporter and lifelong fan from Middle Village Queens who was quoted more than a decade ago saying that his dream job was to coach SJU basketball.
Father Shanley’s best move was bringing him back into fold after Dirty Harrington and The Gemp alienated him. Repole loves sports, thinks big and couldn’t take the lack of attention given to the basketball program by the former presidents.
Also when you hire Pitino he brings a lot of his super wealthy Wall Street and Horse Racing buddies with him. They also have a lot of cash to throw around.
And SJU has had the NIL infrastructure in place for awhile. Former SJU AD Cragg, even though not working for the best presidents to be kind, was very pro active with building NIL collectives right from infancy. He saw the changing landscape of college sports before it even took place. Storm Marketing has been around for years and is thriving. And partnership with Kevin Durant’s company has been very key.
Boardroom, St. John's Embark on NIL-focused Partnership
St John's University and Boardroom are partnering to give Red Storm student-athletes more opportunities within the name, image, and likeness space.
boardroom.tv
Durant and Kleiman (a Long Island boy) were sitting courtside last year at St. John’s/Holy Cross game at Carnesecca. Phoenix was in town for game against Knicks following night
Father Shanley pulled the plug on the Keno Davis disaster at Providence and got the Friars rolling with Cooley.
Father Shanley pulled the plug on the Mike Anderson disaster at St. John’s and hired Pitino.
The guy loves basketball and seems to know what he is doing.
Father Shanley pulled the plug on the Mike Anderson disaster at St. John’s and hired Pitino.
The guy loves basketball and seems to know what he is doing.
its hilarious he's still trying to maintain that money isn't the reason. nah, ncaa champion and master recruiter rick pitino must know nothing. just doing sha a favor. LOL with the 1abc BS
Pitino's list of scandals precedes the FBI investigation of corruption in college basketball that led to his firing at Louisville. He got his out of jail card from Iona after an "impartial" committee found him guilty of Level II violations of not being able to monitor a program. That was good enough for St. John's to hire him.
The NCAA has repeatedly stressed that head coaches be held accountable for the actions of its coaching staffs. If what went on with Pitino in the past was being looked at today by NCAA enforcement, he'd be facing major penalties and unhirable by St. John's.
That said, many schools have revisited what is acceptable for the sake of winning.
SHA can coach, but if the mindset is a downer, he is not going to get through throwing the players under the bus. Yes he made the Elite 8 with a Low Div1 school. Yes he was a McD all American. Yes he is a defense maniac, but these guys are not responding. Zay is by far his best player, but they seem to definitely not seem to be on the same page. I am one of SHA’s biggest fans, but I believe he has to look inward at this point and reevaluate where he is going to take the team as well as making sure that the administration realizes that a small school like Seton Hall would be no where on the map without this program.
Our newest assistants whole job seems to be mining players for and from the portal.
Exactly right about Pitino. I wouldn’t be surprised if he bailed on St. John’s for a blue blood in the next season or two. He knows Father Time will close his window soon.
Yea, and so have we. And this is the higher moral ground stuff that drives me insane.
I’m sure you had no issue when KW hired a former street hustler, two-bit con man to get players, or another guy who was subsequently busted for leading an academic fraud. People who aren’t even real coaches, and who reflects the dregs of the pre-NIL recruiting cesspool, which was just as bad only different.
And we can get into how you think Eddie Griffin, Dalemberr, etc ultimately ended up here.
Schools have always taken the coaches and players that help them win.
Pitino is a salesman. His so-called compliments are so transparently not. He did Sha no favors by taking Richmond and now is trashing SHU NIL, which BTW would likely be the same or better than St. John's if it were not for Repole, Pitino's Vitamin Water buddy who helped grease the skids to kick out Anderson so Pitino could get hired at St. John's.
Pitino also trashed Seton Hall and told Willard not to take the job. He is no friend of Seton Hall, would gladly poach Coleman next year if he could.
And Sha had a show clause against him before we hired him --- from his time at SHU!
Wish Kurtz was at that game last night watching those Johnny fans beating their chests and rubbing it in.
Maybe his pirate pride would have come out as well as his checkbook..
Sha is making $2.5M to put a competitive team on the court & he needs Pitino to be his spokesman. What a world.
So shaheen was great last year but awful this year? I wonder what changed, hmmm
Why do we still bring up Kurtz ? He does not seem to be interested , who cares
Breaking news: Sha does not speak very well. Perhaps he realizes this and chooses silence.
hey I tried to get his email to speak to him as a student raised by a single mother letting him know how much SHU helped me in my life but I wasn't given it so
He drives the cars doesn’t he? Not to get in an argument but that doesn’t translate into he likes sports.
The IARP found that he "promoted an atmosphere of compliance" while at Louisville.
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