RFK MAHA

[HALL85]

https://www.axios.com/2024/11/14/maha-movement-federal-health-agencies

Areas surfacing where RFK will focus. Much of which that has been discussed here. Agree with much of this but he will face headwinds from food and Pharma lobbies.

MSM will continue to paint him as an “anti-vaxer”.

 

[SHallguy2]

We are fortunate to have someone as passionate as RFK jr working on this. One look around at the people visiting Costco and you know there’s a problem. I’m there shopping but watching every item I put into my cart. 80% of the food we buy has issues.

 

[Merge]

MSM will continue to paint him as an “anti-vaxer”.

He's earned that though. He has brought a lot of junk and lies into the discussion. When confronted about any of what he got wrong, he then covers it by saying he's just asking questions, or just wants more research etc.

Could still be a net benefit overall, so I'll judge by what he takes on.

 

[HALL85]

He's earned that though. He has brought a lot of junk and lies into the discussion. When confronted about any of what he got wrong, he then covers it by saying he's just asking questions, or just wants more research etc.

Could still be a net benefit overall, so I'll judge by what he takes on.

Not denying he’s said some controversial things about vaccines, but that’s all the MSM ever talks about. He actually makes some good points, but it’s all about the narrative to discredit.

 

[NYShoreGuy]

60 percent of the voters are not college educated...they dont have credentials to get better paying jobs and they eat the cheapest most highly processed food options

 

[shu09]

Great pick. He will have a tough time fighting the food lobby, but maybe we actually have a chance to change our foods now.

 

[NYShoreGuy]

Great pick. He will have a tough time fighting the food lobby, but maybe we actually have a chance to change our foods now.

And how about your grandparents chance at wellness and insurance?

 

[SHUHoopsFan]

So funny to read stuff about RFK being unqualified but everyone complaining has been ok with having weekend at Bernie’s as the president the last 2 years

 

[NYShoreGuy]

Trump welcome meal for RFK

 

[HALL85]

So funny to read stuff about RFK being unqualified but everyone complaining has been ok with having weekend at Bernie’s as the president the last 2 years

Let’s not forget Rachel Levine, Mayorkis, Lloyd Austin, etc.

 

[SHUHoopsFan]

Let’s not forget Rachel Levine, Mayorkis, Lloyd Austin, etc.

No doubt in my mind if Mayorkis did his job at the border Kamala would be president

 

[HALL85]

https://www.politico.com/story/2008/11/rfk-jr-too-controversial-for-epa-015403

So Obama considered RFK to run the EPA….

And given his positions on the environment you would think the left would love him…lol

 

[SHUHoopsFan]

https://www.politico.com/story/2008/11/rfk-jr-too-controversial-for-epa-015403

So Obama considered RFK to run the EPA….

And given his positions on the environment you would think the left would love him…lol

You would also think they’d be celebrating the first female chief of staff too.

 

[HALL85]

You would also think they’d be celebrating the first female chief of staff too.

Orange man bad….lol

 

[SPK145]

Let’s not forget Rachel Levine, Mayorkis, Lloyd Austin, etc.

What, no Buttigieg??

 

[Gohall129]

Universal health and population safety is a very socially liberal policy. Why don’t democrats embrace it….. $$$$$$ and power

RFK wants us to further evaluate and study the effects of vaccines on populations- the side effects- the risks and that will lead to safer and more efficacious vaccines.

The fact you aren’t allowed to question big pharma cutting corners is insanity.

 

[Merge]

https://www.politico.com/story/2008/11/rfk-jr-too-controversial-for-epa-015403

So Obama considered RFK to run the EPA….

And given his positions on the environment you would think the left would love him…lol

His experience been in environmental law which would have made him well suited for the EPA.
Republicans at the time called him too radical for the position.

Because of how often he dives into conspiracy theories on health though, it's hard to take him seriously even though he might say some things I'd agree with against the food and pharma lobbies.

He still has the opportunity to be successful in the position, but push back would of course be expected because of his crazier health takes. I didn't think Levine was a great pick either, but at least her background was in health.

 

[HALL85]

His experience been in environmental law which would have made him well suited for the EPA.
Republicans at the time called him too radical for the position.

And that’s how it works. When you’re on the side of one party, you’re the enemy of the other. And when you switch so do they. Same thing with Musk and Gabbard.

Because of how often he dives into conspiracy theories on health though, it's hard to take him seriously even though he might say some things I'd agree with against the food and pharma lobbies.

He said some whacky things about the environment back then too. I don’t get it, but having the “Kennedy” name gets the public attention.

He still has the opportunity to be successful in the position, but push back would of course be expected because of his crazier health takes. I didn't think Levine was a great pick either, but at least her background was in health.

He’ll get pushback and should get it. I’d like to see how he handles the grilling.

She was horrible as the head of PA Department of Health. Having background and being incompetent along the way but getting jobs strictly because of being a trans…just as dangerous.

 

[SHUHoopsFan]

His experience been in environmental law which would have made him well suited for the EPA.
Republicans at the time called him too radical for the position.

Because of how often he dives into conspiracy theories on health though, it's hard to take him seriously even though he might say some things I'd agree with against the food and pharma lobbies.

He still has the opportunity to be successful in the position, but push back would of course be expected because of his crazier health takes. I didn't think Levine was a great pick either, but at least her background was in health.

I think we have to make some radical changes in health. People with backgrounds in health have been leading us down the wrong path constantly. It seems we are continuously reactionary as opposed proactive. We look to solve symptoms and not prevent the problem. Most likely these experts are put in those positions to advance the money of big food and big pharma. Not for nothing doctors take less than 20 hours of nutrition over 4 years of school. It's not like they're much greater experts than anyone else.

 

[NYShoreGuy]

I think we have to make some radical changes in health. People with backgrounds in health have been leading us down the wrong path constantly. It seems we are continuously reactionary as opposed proactive. We look to solve symptoms and not prevent the problem. Most likely these experts are put in those positions to advance the money of big food and big pharma. Not for nothing doctors take less than 20 hours of nutrition over 4 years of school. It's not like they're much greater experts than anyone else.

System...r and d goes to new medicines, trials etc...pharma invites docs to junkets and getaways and in return they push this onto their patients

 

[SHUHoopsFan]

System...r and d goes to new medicines, trials etc...pharma invites docs to junkets and getaways and in return they push this onto their patients

You're the pro system guy. You like fluoride in water because that's what the system has said for years. Doctors push drugs/vaccines because that's what the system wants and that's the system big pharma and big food have created. You probably love it.

And nobody over decades has done the right thing for the American people and said the system isn't just broken, it's F'd up. It takes balls to stand up to these systems with so much money and power. We watch commercials with disclaimers of thoughts of suicide, diabetes, possible stroke or heart attack, etc and we act like that's normal.

 

[NYShoreGuy]

I do not know of one dermatologist that says its fine to be out in the sun without skin protection

I do not know of one cardiologist that says inactivity, alcohol, smoking and a high saturated fat diet is good for your heart

I do not know one endocrinologist that claims a high content sugar diet is good for your body

There are poorly nutrient easily affordable options to consume...that is primary, portion control is another red flag...people eat too much in a sit down...i mean hell look at 7 11 or wawa you can a 60 oz 72 oz soda...straight poison into the body

Me personally, i quit most dairy, limit beef and pork, pasta and bread, big on chicken and fish, more nutrient dense grains, veg, fruit, since 2009 i probably have had a combo of 5 guys, popeyes, kfc, wendys, mcdonalds 15 to 20 times, drink veg and fruit cold pressed juice

 

[HALL85]

You're the pro system guy. You like fluoride in water because that's what the system has said for years. Doctors push drugs/vaccines because that's what the system wants and that's the system big pharma and big food have created. You probably love it.

And nobody over decades has done the right thing for the American people and said the system isn't just broken, it's F'd up. It takes balls to stand up to these systems with so much money and power. We watch commercials with disclaimers of thoughts of suicide, diabetes, possible stroke or heart attack, etc and we act like that's normal.

We have a great healthcare system, but there are two major flaws as I see it, which both come back to money.
- It’s costly to continue to do post marketing studies after a drug is approved, but we have found in numerous occasions that many of these drugs do provide harm much later when adverse reactions are reported and more data is analyzed. Thalidomide is the most glaring example. We really need to focus energy on why we are unhealthy and make those changes.
- The food and the drug lobby is incredibly powerful. We are the only country other than New Zealand that allows DTC advertising. Think about how bizarre this is. Marketing drugs to the public to make it easier for their physicians to prescribe them. And what’s worse, we know that the FDA was complicit with Purdue Frederick and the opioid crisis. Amazing though, and no one was ever held accountable.


This is steep hill to climb, but think back to how the tobacco industry has changed through education and regulations.

 

[Merge]

I think we have to make some radical changes in health. People with backgrounds in health have been leading us down the wrong path constantly. It seems we are continuously reactionary as opposed proactive. We look to solve symptoms and not prevent the problem. Most likely these experts are put in those positions to advance the money of big food and big pharma. Not for nothing doctors take less than 20 hours of nutrition over 4 years of school. It's not like they're much greater experts than anyone else.

This is an area we agree. Change is needed and whatever we can do to convince people to take better care of their health, I'm all for it.

 

[SHUHoopsFan]

This is steep hill to climb, but think back to how the tobacco industry has changed through education and regulations.

Going about it the same way we did the last 50+ years is not the answer, it's actually the definition of insanity.

 

[SHUHoopsFan]

I do not know of one dermatologist that says its fine to be out in the sun without skin protection

I do not know of one cardiologist that says inactivity, alcohol, smoking and a high saturated fat diet is good for your heart

I do not know one endocrinologist that claims a high content sugar diet is good for your body

There's so many lifestyle ways of eating you will get cardiologists who will say there are benefits to wine or clear alcohol. No doctor is going to tell you to get hammered, but some is good. Many believe there are benefits to a high saturated fat diet. You may disagree but I'll bet more than a handful of cardiologists recommend it.

 

[NYShoreGuy]

We have a great healthcare system, but there are two major flaws as I see it, which both come back to money.
- It’s costly to continue to do post marketing studies after a drug is approved, but we have found in numerous occasions that many of these drugs do provide harm much later when adverse reactions are reported and more data is analyzed. Thalidomide is the most glaring example. We really need to focus energy on why we are unhealthy and make those changes.
- The food and the drug lobby is incredibly powerful. We are the only country other than New Zealand that allows DTC advertising. Think about how bizarre this is. Marketing drugs to the public to make it easier for their physicians to prescribe them. And what’s worse, we know that the FDA was complicit with Purdue Frederick and the opioid crisis. Amazing though, and no one was ever held accountable.


This is steep hill to climb, but think back to how the tobacco industry has changed through education and regulations.

Purdue was not held accountable?

 

[HALL85]

Going about it the same way we did the last 50+ years is not the answer, it's actually the definition of insanity.

Totally agree. RFK (with Trumps support) is a disruptive influence which you need to initiate these kind of bold changes.

I am interested to see how this plays out. Is it just bluster after the election or will he advance specific policies and drive change.