Seton Hall adds G Mike Williams from LSU
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So who will construct the team if not Holloway? Sha is the guy for at least the next 2-3 years. Give him enough money and see what he can do.
Who is going to make that decision?
How is it going to be paid?
What’s next?
Do you think that Reilly, Felt and Lyons have the stones to do it?
No they don’t. He’s going nowhere even if 2-18 again. Maybe at least then he’d actually listen to some guidance.
Maybe a move to the Colonial League under the guise of focusing on academics. "Historic" Walsh becomes relevant again. Actually add seats as all Division I offices become unnecessary. Compete (I hope....) with the likes of Lehigh, Lafayette, Colgate, Holy Cross, American if they will have us. It could be worse.
In grand Seton Hall fashion Felt will make that decision. He will meet with Sha 2 weeks after the season to inform him. We will then put out a national search. Spend 6 weeks on searching high and low, only to find someone who lives 5 blocks from the school or is related to someone at the school and hire that person to put a roster together after all the top players signed elsewhere.
We just spent $55 million on a new practice facility. Much of it with debt. No time to decamp from the BE
Some of what you read here is just nuts.
Take a drive through the Goodman Campus at Lehigh. 5k seat arena and first class training center.
Respectfully, because I value you as a poster, none of this is viable. Even if, for the sake of argument, we dropped down to a lower level of competition, not only is the Prudential Center obviously off the table, but Walsh isn't even a middling low-major gym (although practically speaking, it would accommodate all interested spectators with room to spare).
And you can't just decide to "focus on academic," as if deciding to be excellent is just a choice. Those institutions you mention have built their reputations through generations of top-notch scholarship and the admission of top students (which came first? It's a chicken-or-the-egg game), who then graduated, became successful and influential, and gave back generously to those schools, enabling them to further improve their lot.
Seton Hall, as an archdiocesan property, has a mission of access (despite its high price point). It likes to tout its improved admissions standards, though it uses metrics to bolster its claims that are universally providing the appearance to every college and university in the country of raising their admissions standards. I happen to think I received a terrific education at Seton Hall, but I have no illusions about what it is and what its shortcomings are (not the least of which is a complete, gaping void of leadership at any level).
If we could just snap our fingers and be in the company of those schools, even at the cost of big-time basketball, I'd do it in a heartbeat. It's not an option, though.
Sound points for sure. But I think we have to realize that 'big-time basketball' is a thing of the past for us. We cannot compete financially in the NIL era to stay big-time. The status quo is not viable. Moving down in class should definitely be considered. Finding an appropriate venue is definitely an issue. The Rock would be out of the question and Walsh is too small even for a mid-major.
No way the school can walk away from the financial resources the Big East offers. Our men's BB team basically funds the entire athletic department & then some.
Also, no way the current staff will survive another 2-18 season nor should they.
Also, no way the current staff will survive another 2-18 season nor should they.
I disagree. Not saying we will be super competitive but Budd Clark is levels better than any PG on the roster last year and Elijah Fisher is a legit BE talent. We’d expect Godswill to take a leap. That at least makes us better than last year imo
I'm not ready to make any predictions on next year's team yet, but your point in Budd Clark is essential. Clark on this past season's team alone would've meant, offhand, at least five more wins and likely more. It's not because Clark in and of himself is such a transcendent player (though he is definitely quality), but we simply did not have anyone playing that position last year -- that is, no one would could distribute the ball to teammates and also score himself. No one had any ability to fill that role at all. So I don't discount what his presence will mean this coming season.
I respectfully disagree. Nothing is etched in Stone. The issue is the leadership from the top to the Athletic Dept and then the Coach. If we had people that could truly market and a marquee ambassador things could be different. The Felt/ Sha combo also make it difficult.
OK, we will agree to disagree. And frankly I'd be happier if you prove to be right.
You have to tour some college campuses to see what’s out there. SHU all-around facilities were/are pathetic. Any improvements have pretty much been catch-up work.
Finally time to get to work. Clark, Simpkins, Rivera, Dar and Payne that I can see.
IDK the details behind Williams, but he saw a huge drop-off in playing time going from 33 games and just under 20 MPG to 24 games and just over 11 MPG. Also missed a month for personal reasons last year?
Offensively, as a freshman, he shot .371 from 3 as a freshman (39/105) and took 53% of his shots from 3. But it bottomed to .250 (17/68) last year and was even more extreme with 67% of his shots from 3. Looks like he became a chucker off the bench.
Offensively, as a freshman, he shot .371 from 3 as a freshman (39/105) and took 53% of his shots from 3. But it bottomed to .250 (17/68) last year and was even more extreme with 67% of his shots from 3. Looks like he became a chucker off the bench.
They should use the roster turnover of this era to market and brand more, get to know the team.
If you look we the pieces they may have some talent that exceeds lasts yrs team but they are also much smaller. Payne is the only other so called big and he looks 6-7. Godswill is only 6-9. Best two guards if they start together are Clark 5-9 and Parker 6-0. Gonna be a tough go
Do we know if any of the players have prior relationships (from playing together or against each other in high school, AAU, etc)?
They have very nice facilities covering many sports. And if you’re in the non revenue sports you will be pleased. But none have a practice facility for MBB that compares. That was my point.
Name them the patriot teams with that same level of MBB practice, training, rehab, strength, instruction. I’m happy to be proven wrong.
85 lives within close proximity of two of the Patriot schools. He knows very well how nice the facilities are. Including football . So how would we be a fit ? That was a ridiculous suggestion.
I have been in Lehigh, Lafayette and Bucknell facilities. All excellent and as good if not better than ours.
Article detailing the $30 million expansion at Lehigh three years ago.
https://lehighsports.com/news/2022/...57.1266623288.1749295606-576124938.1749295606
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Great facility but for all sports with baseball and track and field getting biggest upgrade.
That’s not true. The training center is for all athletes including basketball. Also besides the point. They have more sports and leverage the great facilities. Is that Lehigh’s fault?
i don't think people quite realize the severity seton hall has fallen off in all aspects in the last 20 years.
This we agree on
Shows you some posters never gave KW the credit he deserved when he was here
…doesn’t it?
Wasn’t a true regression… he was recruited over and lost his fit within the team. More situational imo
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