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So no one here has voted for or is going to vote for the treasonous coup-attempting felon rapist guy, right?

As expected some on cnn say race was a big factor in Harris loss as expected.How could black women even if she is a lightweight lose had to be racism Race card getting weaker
 
Among other things, race? I will say that on the campaign trail, she was classy and I'm hopeful that the President-elect will govern in that way, however unlikely that is to happen. Harris must have wanted to kill Biden for the "garbage" comment; it may end up being her "basket of deplorables," even though she didn't say it.

This cycle was quite similar to 2016, though I think Trump had a better chance to win this one going in than he did back then. Trump vs. a cackling, entitled woman chosen by the DNC and party power brokers, with a goofy white guy named Tim as VP. The "garbage" comment and 2016's "basket of deplorables," as you said.
 
I know folks like to bicker back and forth here and all. And differ on matters of policy.

But I also know there are a lot of conservatives, republicans, and self-identified independents who presumably love the Constitution, representative democracy, and the rule of law. And surely none of them would vote for a demonstrated enemy of all those things. Because that would be debasing and shameful.

Cool.
box, seriously, reflect on this post now given the significant electoral and popular vote win by Trump. and he also picked up support from virtually every demographic compared to 2016 and 2020.

These results went way beyond the support of his MAGA loyalists. Why?
 
As more data comes out, single woman votes for Harris; married woman to Trump, which actually makes sense as a wife/mother is likely to put more weight in economy, immigration and crime.

Another stat on NN; Democrats voting for Harris overwhelming (over 80%) noted reproductive rights and democracy as two most important factors. Republicans noted immigration and economy….also over 80%.

Ironic (and hilarious) that the single most self inflicted wound for Harris was from her interview on The View about her answer to what she would do differently.

What happened to climate change being an existential threat?
 
As more data comes out, single woman votes for Harris; married woman to Trump, which actually makes sense as a wife/mother is likely to put more weight in economy, immigration and crime.

Another stat on NN; Democrats voting for Harris overwhelming (over 80%) noted reproductive rights and democracy as two most important factors. Republicans noted immigration and economy….also over 80%.

Ironic (and hilarious) that the single most self inflicted wound for Harris was from her interview on The View about her answer to what she would do differently.

What happened to climate change being an existential threat?
Her biggest problem was not being able to think on her feet, she was clearly in over her head. I agree that comment and those ads changed the election. Trumps ad agency hit a home run and they rode that right to the presidency. They waited knowing she would make mistakes and then capitalized on them. What would you do differently? Nothing. Brilliant response for someone running to be President. Pretty basic question. She’s going to wake up in the middle of the night for years to come hearing herself say nothing. Think we have all been there before, wishing we said something differently. Kind of thing that drives people to drink.
 
Chickenbox- you’re acting
Like this is the Kennedy democrat party.those days are long gone my friend.

The modern democrat party Is full blown media manipulation for the purpose of power. Exactly the definition of what they accuse Trump to be.
 
It's not a surprising result at all. Harris was a poor candidate and ran a poor campaign. Trump's a long way from a good candidate, but he didn't have to be good. He just had to be better than her.

Harris' whole campaign was banking on people simply voting "against Trump" and she offered nothing to give people a reason to vote "for her." Reality is you're never going to win that way.
 
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It's not a surprising result at all. Harris was a poor candidate and ran a poor campaign. Trump's a long way from a good candidate, but he didn't have to be good. He just had to be better than her.

Harris' whole campaign was banking on people simply voting "against Trump" and she offered nothing to give people a reason to vote "for her." Reality is you're never going to win that way.
Which essentially was the same playbook for Dems in 2016, 2020 and 2024. Agree that HRC and Harris were terrible candidates. Biden was mediocre. Either get better candidates or have a better strategy.
 
Which essentially was the same playbook for Dems in 2016, 2020 and 2024. Agree that HRC and Harris were terrible candidates. Biden was mediocre. Either get better candidates or have a better strategy.

Or both. I'm hopeful that in 4 years (or sooner, as there will likely be other attempts on his life), when Trump goes into the sunset, both sides will be able to put up more palatable candidates. Neither side should be catering to the "wing-nut" portion of the base, like robot guy, box, and boobie solo.
 
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Which essentially was the same playbook for Dems in 2016, 2020 and 2024. Agree that HRC and Harris were terrible candidates. Biden was mediocre. Either get better candidates or have a better strategy.
What I want to know more than anything is how that when it's all said and done the democrats will probably end up losing 10 million votes from 2020 to 2024. Trump's total numbers are virtually the same as 2020. Democratic votes that showed up in 2020 just didn't show up in 2024. Why? Trump will tell us because they rigged it in 2020, but what's the real answer?
 
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