Terrible News - SHU shut down 14 days Covid positive player

[Merge]

Kids have been in school for almost 3 months

what’s the point?

That behaviors have changed. The virus wasn’t spreading as much months ago because there was less of an opportunity for the virus to spread. Now there is more of an opportunity and it is spreading more.

I did also read that the virus hangs in less humid air longer so as things get colder and dryer, the risk of getting is becomes greater.

 

[Uncle Hectors Crab Farm]

I wouldn’t say “model“. Not sure if we have yet to find a model

people are just going to get sick, peaks and valleys. mask or no mask. mask generally speaking very obviously helps.

I laughed reading about something like Covid fatigue or some kind of fatigue- it’s related to people just letting their guard down-laughed because it’s true.

Ruining a young adults college hoops season with auto two wk sit outs is beyond crazy. Today I couldn’t believe it got to this and I guess I was asleep to not notice this rule came out.

stay healthy everyone

n keep slugging local iPas!

 

[The Crows Nest]

So why are they working to stop the flu but not this? Why are "cases" skyrocketing in places that have had mask mandates for months? You can't have it both ways.

I’m not getting into this long term, but the states where there is greatest rise in Covid are those that didn’t advocate masks.

 

[shu09]

I’m not getting into this long term, but the states where there is greatest rise in Covid are those that didn’t advocate masks.

So how do you explain the rise in New Jersey?

 

[NYShoreGuy]

So how do you explain the rise in New Jersey?

Halloween was 2 weekends ago, a lot of private gatherings in and around that time, people let their guard down/feel they are invincible to it...just wait until what we witness 10 to 14 days past Thanksgiving week

 

[Uncle Hectors Crab Farm]

I heard large mob gatherings outside don’t spread Covid but having family over for Turkey day spreads Covid. Very confusing

 

[dehere23]

Florida handled its summer surge quite well and now has most things open with only a moderate rise in infections. A model for the rest of the country.

Their Governor gets criticized by main stream media — try and guess why — but my firm has 5 offices there and they are weathering this far, far better than other states. And that’s with having a massive elderly population. My parents, who spend most time up here, plan to go back down there come winter for a few months.

 

[dehere23]

I heard large mob gatherings outside don’t spread Covid but having family over for Turkey day spreads Covid. Very confusing

Large mob gatherings would have been a major issue for the media if last Tuesday turned out differently. Bet that. Btw I bet dollars to donuts those media folks are celebrating Turkey Day like normal. Remember the mantra - you live by our rules, but we don’t have to live by our rules. Cuomos say hello.

 

[HALL85]

Large mob gatherings would have been a major issue for the media if last Tuesday turned out differently. Bet that. Btw I bet dollars to donuts those media folks are celebrating Turkey Day like normal. Remember the mantra - you live by our rules, but we don’t have to live by our rules. Cuomos say hello.

Like this?
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/pelosi-backlash-planning-fancy-dinner-democrats

 

[Halldan1]

This is no longer a SHU/sports topic. It's morphed into something far more different. Later this morning this tread will be transferred to Life Off The Ship.

 

[shu09]

Halloween was 2 weekends ago, a lot of private gatherings in and around that time, people let their guard down/feel they are invincible to it...just wait until what we witness 10 to 14 days past Thanksgiving week

NJ has been increasing in positive counts since the end of September/early October.

 

[shu09]

Their Governor gets criticized by main stream media — try and guess why — but my firm has 5 offices there and they are weathering this far, far better than other states. And that’s with having a massive elderly population. My parents, who spend most time up here, plan to go back down there come winter for a few months.

We know why - the governor there doesn't conform to the MSM narrative. He isn't an egomaniacal control freak like Cuomo, Murphy, Whitmer, Newsom, Pritzker, etc.

 

[Merge]

NJ has been increasing in positive counts since the end of September/early October.

Schools and restaurants both opened back up in September.

 

[sami]

Amazing that you guys cannot respect Dan’s wishes on political/viral themes on the basketball boards. You have thousands of posts on the LOTS board, send a few more that way.

 

[NYShoreGuy]

NJ has been increasing in positive counts since the end of September/early October.

You said on another thread you read and you are informed go read 11/13 numbers on cases and deaths in Florida and then NJ and come back and report it on LOTS

 

[shu09]

Schools and restaurants both opened back up in September.

So why are state leaders freaking out over a rise in "cases?" They knew all along there would be an increase if they opened things.

 

[jerseyjoepirate]

Question! During the shut down are the individual players allowed to self train? That is keep in condition . If so why not practice foul shooting! This does not require any other contact with teammates and or staff. I know their well being is paramount. Just wondering if it is possible to have some good come out of a terrible situation. Stay healthy Pirates!!!!!

 

[NYShoreGuy]

Question! During the shut down are the individual players allowed to self train? That is keep in condition . If so why not practice foul shooting! This does not require any other contact with teammates and or staff. I know their well being is paramount. Just wondering if it is possible to have some good come out of a terrible situation. Stay healthy Pirates!!!!!

Yes individuals can do things in a non collective manner to have activity in their daily life, however not sure they have access to a team facility

 

[radecicco]

I think i read that the players do have access to team facility albeit only two at a time in the gym and at opposite baskets.

 

[NYShoreGuy]

I think i read that the players do have access to team facility albeit only two at a time in the gym and at opposite baskets.

Great then that is even better..

 

[flconticello]

Over 3,000 people with Covid have been admitted to the hospital and 1,100 people have died of covid per day since the election. Apparently the virus was nonpartisan.



They should have done that months ago, but I hope they do it for the short term to aid in our economic recovery as those who are most vulnerable are able to be vaccinated.

What's the age group of the people hospitalized and dying? Notice how that little tidbit is omitted.

 

[Merge]

So why are state leaders freaking out over a rise in "cases?" They knew all along there would be an increase if they opened things.

We expected more cases. We just need to manage it better.

The positivity rate is indicating that people aren’t taking it seriously enough. Seems that under 3% is ideal. Above 3 is still ok until you start getting close to 10%. That number and above suggests the virus is too wide spread.

Trends in hospitalizations support that it is spreading too quickly as well. We spent much of September around 400 current Covid hospitalizations and it just hit 2,000. Still manageable, but that trend will need to stop before it becomes a problem.

 

[Merge]

What's the age group of the people hospitalized and dying? Notice how that little tidbit is omitted.

It’s not omitted. That data is available.

 

[TheHall87]

Their Governor gets criticized by main stream media — try and guess why — but my firm has 5 offices there and they are weathering this far, far better than other states. And that’s with having a massive elderly population. My parents, who spend most time up here, plan to go back down there come winter for a few months.

They are?

Florida is third in overall cases behind Texas and California with over 300,000 cases more than New York. Florida has approximately eight percent of the nation's positive results. Florida is ninth over the past seven days which is 8,000 more than NY.

Florida is fourth in deaths over the past seven days at 411. That's more than double NY and four times the number in New Jersey. Florida is also fourth in overall deaths at more than 17,000. New York is the wide leader but much of that is because they bore the early brunt of the virus when so much of everything surrounding it was unknown.

 

[Burnsly]

I believe there was over 8,000 people hospitalized for Covid back in April.

 

[Piratz]

It's the same debate over and over again. There are different issues. First, using actual data to gauge the potency of the virus (cases going up is just one metric that sounds scary, but may better explain the virus in cases:hospitalizations and cases:death as we test more). Secondly, the actual raw data of hospitalizations as that will lead quicker to lockdowns than just cases going up because it starts taxing resources. Let's say 1 out of 10 versus 20 out of 1,000. Yeah, rate is much better, but you have 20x the amount.

Plus our math is totally skewed because we could not test at this level early on. It gets manipulated shamelessly.

Lockdowns pause transmission so pandemic plans can implemented, especially if you have a serious shortage somewhere or have no idea what you're really dealing with like the U.S. in March with a dearth of even testing available. You're not getting rid of a virus with a lockdown.

Back to Seton Hall. They should test their way out of it. Someone is positive, fine, isolate them and monitor them. Why should the entire team get shutdown? It's ludicrous.

 

[HALL85]

I believe there was over 8,000 people hospitalized for Covid back in April.

Yes, actually over 8500 in New Jersey.

 

[HALL85]

If politicians really cared about the public you would think the inauguration will be completely virtual. Can’t wait to see this.

 

[NYShoreGuy]

It's the same debate over and over again. There are different issues. First, using actual data to gauge the potency of the virus (cases going up is just one metric that sounds scary, but may better explain the virus in cases:hospitalizations and cases:death as we test more). Secondly, the actual raw data of hospitalizations as that will lead quicker to lockdowns than just cases going up because it starts taxing resources. Let's say 1 out of 10 versus 20 out of 1,000. Yeah, rate is much better, but you have 20x the amount.

Plus our math is totally skewed because we could not test at this level early on. It gets manipulated shamelessly.

Lockdowns pause transmission so pandemic plans can implemented, especially if you have a serious shortage somewhere or have no idea what you're really dealing with like the U.S. in March with a dearth of even testing available. You're not getting rid of a virus with a lockdown.

Back to Seton Hall. They should test their way out of it. Someone is positive, fine, isolate them and monitor them. Why should the entire team get shutdown? It's ludicrous.

A total extinction of virus over lockdown yes unreasonable. A lessened chance of transmission from one person infected to spread to others very possible

 

[Hallsome]

It's the same debate over and over again. There are different issues. First, using actual data to gauge the potency of the virus (cases going up is just one metric that sounds scary, but may better explain the virus in cases:hospitalizations and cases:death as we test more). Secondly, the actual raw data of hospitalizations as that will lead quicker to lockdowns than just cases going up because it starts taxing resources. Let's say 1 out of 10 versus 20 out of 1,000. Yeah, rate is much better, but you have 20x the amount.

Plus our math is totally skewed because we could not test at this level early on. It gets manipulated shamelessly.

Lockdowns pause transmission so pandemic plans can implemented, especially if you have a serious shortage somewhere or have no idea what you're really dealing with like the U.S. in March with a dearth of even testing available. You're not getting rid of a virus with a lockdown.

Back to Seton Hall. They should test their way out of it. Someone is positive, fine, isolate them and monitor them. Why should the entire team get shutdown? It's ludicrous.

Well done

 

[Uncle Hectors Crab Farm]

Still confused. Glad I can slug IPas n rip dinosaur jr from 85. St Joe will save us

 

[Hallsome]

Still confused. Glad I can slug IPas n rip dinosaur jr from 85. St Joe will save us

A total extinction of virus over lockdown yes unreasonable. A lessened chance of transmission from one person infected to spread to others very possible

Opinions that suggest covid requires shut down is absurd. Women can’t get Pap smears. Men can’t get prostates checked. All for .02 death rate. Never mind people losing livelihoods. And my family was directly impacted including deaths. I say, at what cost?

 

[flconticello]

It’s not omitted. That data is available.

I'm sure it is just not im the post and I'm sure it's elderly. Anyone under 60 has .02% chance of dying. LESS THAN THE FLU. Stop the madness

 

[Merge]

I'm sure it is just not im the post and I'm sure it's elderly. Anyone under 60 has .02% chance of dying. LESS THAN THE FLU. Stop the madness

Unfortunately, that is just not correct.

We have about 50k deaths under 65 in 8 months. A really bad flu season would be about 10k in an entire year.

 

[flconticello]

Unfortunately, that is just not correct.

We have about 50k deaths under 65 in 8 months. A really bad flu season would be about 10k in an entire year.

First off is about 45k with most of those being 55-64. Even so that age group had .09% mortality. Average flu season is about 35-50k. So it's about the same.

15-24 is total of 410 out of just under 27k cases. That doesn't consider how many kids get it and don't know because they don't get symptoms. Mortality 0.01%. This isn't ebola. It's a bad flu for the elderly and a mild cold for young.

 

[NYShoreGuy]

First off is about 45k with most of those being 55-64. Even so that age group had .09% mortality. Average flu season is about 35-50k. So it's about the same.

15-24 is total of 410 out of just under 27k cases. That doesn't consider how many kids get it and don't know because they don't get symptoms. Mortality 0.01%. This isn't ebola. It's a bad flu for the elderly and a mild cold for young.

Who is this cat?

 

[NYShoreGuy]

First off is about 45k with most of those being 55-64. Even so that age group had .09% mortality. Average flu season is about 35-50k. So it's about the same.

15-24 is total of 410 out of just under 27k cases. That doesn't consider how many kids get it and don't know because they don't get symptoms. Mortality 0.01%. This isn't ebola. It's a bad flu for the elderly and a mild cold for young.

Adam amin new fox sports broadcaster early 30s not dead but...

 

[donnie_baseball]

Back to Seton Hall. They should test their way out of it. Someone is positive, fine, isolate them and monitor them. Why should the entire team get shutdown? It's ludicrous.

In my opinion, that's the only way we're going to get the season in.

 

[Merge]

First off is about 45k with most of those being 55-64. Even so that age group had .09% mortality. Average flu season is about 35-50k. So it's about the same.

Again, you are just entirely wrong there. If you remove the elderly population from Covid, you also have to do the same for the flu if you are trying to compare the two.

Estimated Flu-Related Illnesses, Medical visits, Hospitalizations, and Deaths in the United States — 2019–2020 Flu Season | CDC

CDC calculates estimates of disease burden in the United States using surveillance data and modeling to adjust for sources of under-detection. Burden estimates for the 2018-2019 season found here.

www.cdc.gov

Flu deaths under 65 in an entire year = 8,236

COVID-19 Provisional Counts - Weekly Updates by Select Demographic and Geographic Characteristics

Tabulated data on provisional COVID-19 deaths by age, sex, race and Hispanic origin, and comorbidities. Also includes an index of state-level and county-level mortality data available for download.

www.cdc.gov

Covid deaths under 65 in 8 months = 46,609 (this is also lower because of the reporting lag on demographic data)

So 8 months of a virus WITH additional steps in place to mitigate the risk of the virus is already more than 5x greater than a flu season, and we haven't even experienced a winter with Covid yet.

 

[shufan1993]

I predicted back in April there will be no seton hall basketball season this year. I will hold onto my prediction. Sadly I do not think a season will occur this year.