The Maryland Dad

[HALL85]

https://www.newsnationnow.com/us-ne...ar-abrego-garcias-wife-restraining-order-dhs/

Restraining order filed from his wife for domestic violence as Sen. Van Holland makes the trip to El Salvador to free him….same week that Rachel Morin’s murderer is convicted….and her mother now appearing in a White House news conference.

“To have a senator from Maryland who didn't even acknowledge, or barely acknowledge, my daughter and the brutal death that she endured, leaving her five children without a mother…so that he can use my taxpayer money to fly to El Salvador to bring back someone that's not even an American citizen?" Morin told reporters Wednesday at the White House. "Why does that person have more right than I do, or my daughter or my grandchildren? I don't, I don't understand this."

 

[Merge]

Statement from the wife.

“We were able to work through this situation privately as a family, including by going to counseling.”

"Our marriage only grew stronger in the years that followed. No one is perfect, and no marriage is perfect. That is not a justification for ICE's action of abducting him and deporting him to a country where he was supposed to be protected from deportation. Kilmar has always been a loving partner and father, and I will continue to stand by him and demand justice for him."

Keep this in perspective though, he was wrongly deported, and we’re taking the position that it doesn’t matter that he’s was accidentally sent to that jail where he will most likely die because he wore a bulls hat.

SCOTUS 9-0 ruling.

The United States acknowledges that Abrego Garcia was subject to a withholding order forbidding his removal to El Salvador, and that the removal to El Salvador was therefore illegal. The United States represents that the removal to El Salvador was the result of an “administrative error.”

“The rest of the District Court’s order remains in effect but requires clarification on remand. The order properly requires the Government to “facilitate” Abrego Garcia’s release from custody in El Salvador and to ensure that his case is handled as it would have been had he not been improperly sent to El Salvador.”

“For its part, the Government should be prepared to share what it can concerning the steps it has taken and the prospect of further steps.“

 

[HALL85]

Statement from the wife.

“We were able to work through this situation privately as a family, including by going to counseling.”

"Our marriage only grew stronger in the years that followed. No one is perfect, and no marriage is perfect. That is not a justification for ICE's action of abducting him and deporting him to a country where he was supposed to be protected from deportation. Kilmar has always been a loving partner and father, and I will continue to stand by him and demand justice for him."

That doesn’t change the fact that he beat her and she called the police and he was arrested. Perhaps she dropped the charges in fear. I mean, he is an MS13 gang member.

Keep this in perspective though, he was wrongly deported, and we’re taking the position that it doesn’t matter that he’s was accidentally sent to that jail where he will most likely die because he wore a bulls hat.

SCOTUS 9-0 ruling.

The United States acknowledges that Abrego Garcia was subject to a withholding order forbidding his removal to El Salvador, and that the removal to El Salvador was therefore illegal. The United States represents that the removal to El Salvador was the result of an “administrative error.”

“The rest of the District Court’s order remains in effect but requires clarification on remand. The order properly requires the Government to “facilitate” Abrego Garcia’s release from custody in El Salvador and to ensure that his case is handled as it would have been had he not been improperly sent to El Salvador.”

“For its part, the Government should be prepared to share what it can concerning the steps it has taken and the prospect of further steps.“

Democrats are choosing Garcia to die on the illegal immigration issue. Did you see Rachel Morin’s mother’s speech today?

 

[Merge]

That doesn’t change the fact that he beat her and she called the police and he was arrested. Perhaps she dropped the charges in fear.

Possible. I have no opinion on him.

All I do know is that he was deported in error, against a court order and the administration is blatantly ignoring SCOTUS.

Absolutely absurd to be ok with that.

I mean, he is an MS13 gang member.

Possible, but I don’t believe that was proven.

Democrats are choosing Garcia to die on the illegal immigration issue. Did you see Rachel Morin’s mother’s speech today?

So let this man, who was deported in error rot in a prison in El Salvador because a different illegal immigrant killed someone?

Two separate issues here. It can be both horrendous what happened to Rachael Morin, and horrendous that we would deport someone in error who will likely die in prison while ignoring that SCOTUS said we should facilitate his return.

 

[HALL85]

Possible. I have no opinion on him.

He beat her, and did not dispute that.

All I do know is that he was deported in error, against a court order and the administration is blatantly ignoring SCOTUS.

Absolutely absurd to be ok with that.

Trump should follow the court order, without question. I almost think he’s ignoring it to keep this story in the news for Democrats to bite (which they have). Taking focus off tariffs.

Possible, but I don’t believe that was proven.

He was arrested with two other MS13 members; wearing the gang clan’s has the gang tattoo. Possible? More like Highly Probable.

So let this man, who was deported in error rot in a prison in El Salvador because a different illegal immigrant killed someone?

Two separate issues here. It can be both horrendous what happened to Rachael Morin, and horrendous that we would deport someone in error who will likely die in prison while ignoring that SCOTUS said we should facilitate his return.

I was referring to how Democrats are using Garcia to politicize the issue to find fault in Trump’s border policy (which has been a resounding success and the issue he gets his highest approval rating). Morin’s mother (the family is from Maryland), was distraught that Van Holland didn’t even acknowledge her daughter’s death but chose to fly to El Salvador to advocate for Garcia. Just an absolute dumb political move. Did you see her speech?

 

[Merge]

He beat her, and did not dispute that.

I said it was possible that she dropped the charges out of fear. You made that part up, which is possible.

He was arrested with two other MS13 members; wearing the gang clan’s has the gang tattoo. Possible? More like Highly Probable.

He was at Home Depot looking for work… gang banging activity for sure there…

Trump should follow the court order, without question.

Right. That’s all that needs to be said here.
He should, but he isn’t so what then?

Nothing? Just say oh well?

I was referring to how Democrats are using Garcia to politicize the issue to find fault in Trump’s border policy

In all seriousness, if you believe Trump should be facilitating the return and he isn’t, what should happen here? No republican has the balls to stand up to him, so dems should just let it slide?

Holland didn’t even acknowledge her daughter’s death but chose to fly to El Salvador to advocate for Garcia. Just an absolute dumb political move. Did you see her speech?

No I didn’t watch.

I get the she would be upset. Optically it’s bad, but at the same time, a senator isn’t going to help investigate a murder but senators are actually involved in foreign policy and he could actually have a role in facilitating the return of Garcia.

 

[HALL85]

I said it was possible that she dropped the charges out of fear. You made that part up, which is possible.

I didn't make it up, but said it was possible. I said "perhaps". He did beat her though.

He was at Home Depot looking for work… gang banging activity for sure there…

Does it matter where he and the other gang members were arrested? I'm assuming ICE had a packet on at least one of them and the other two became part of the arrest because they fit the ICE criteria.

Right. That’s all that needs to be said here.
He should, but he isn’t so what then?

Nothing? Just say oh well?

They could just ignore the politicization totally and let Trump have to eventually respond to the order. Making him out to be a model citizen doesn't seem very bright.

In all seriousness, if you believe Trump should be facilitating the return and he isn’t, what should happen here? No republican has the balls to stand up to him, so dems should just let it slide?

He got swept up and it made it's way to the Supreme Court and they have made their ruling. I would let it slide because the last thing Trump needs to do is alienate SCOTUS. But at the very least why on earth would you fly to El Salvador when the murderer of one of you constituents was convicted in the same week?

No I didn’t watch.

I get the she would be upset. Optically it’s bad, but at the same time, a senator isn’t going to help investigate a murder but senators are actually involved in foreign policy and he could actually have a role in facilitating the return of Garcia.

That's nice that you would get that. That was my original point in that the optics are terrible. This isn't about Van Hollen's role in the investigation but rather showing compassion for Morin's mother rather than flying to El Salvador for a gang banger.

 

[cernjSHU]

Merge is right. A US Senator does not have any jurisdiction in State crime of murder. This does not touch on anything federal.

Most important of all, as I have predicted and said in the past is that Trump is tearing down US institutions which are the bedrock of our country. From the FBI, the Justice Department, to Congress and now the Supreme Court Court. Trump is defying a 9-0 decision from SCOTUS to return this man. Whatever happens to him ultimately is besides the point. He is entitled to and deserves Due Process. Trump has picked this case out to defy the Court. His henchman Steven Miller actually have the audacity to lie that SCOTYS ruled in favor of the President. Do we care at all about honesty and facts and the Constitution?..

 

[Merge]

He got swept up and it made it's way to the Supreme Court and they have made their ruling. I would let it slide because the last thing Trump needs to do is alienate SCOTUS.

What do you mean the last thing he needs?
The court ordered to facilitate the return a week ago and Trump, Bondi, Miller and others have stated they have no intention on following through with facilitating the return.

So what should happen here?

 

[HALL85]

What do you mean the last thing he needs?
The court ordered to facilitate the return a week ago and Trump, Bondi, Miller and others have stated they have no intention on following through with facilitating the return.

So what should happen here?

I meant Dems should let it slide because they are losing the public relations fight. Trump will need to follow the order at some point. Defying SCOTUS too long will be a big problem for him. It doesn’t matter what his team says. You know that.

 

[Robot_Man]

I meant Dems should let it slide because they are losing the public relations fight. Trump will need to follow the order at some point. Defying SCOTUS too long will be a big problem for him. It doesn’t matter what his team says. You know that.

Dems are not losing the public relations fight. I say this because Bondi keeps doing media hits and ratcheting up the allegations about Garcia (now he's one of the leaders of MS13), and the chairman of the FCC is now threatening media organizations who talk about him.

 

[Merge]

I meant Dems should let it slide because they are losing the public relations fight

I think that's an incredibly weak view that they should ignore an actual constitutional violation by the president because of PR to be honest, and I don't agree that they are losing the PR fight. I think reasonable people understand how F'd up it is to send anyone to a prison in El Salvador, by mistake and then act like you can't do anything to get that person back.

Trump will need to follow the order at some point. Defying SCOTUS too long will be a big problem for him.

Why? Who can compel him to follow the order?

 

[HALL85]

Dems are not losing the public relations fight. I say this because Bondi keeps doing media hits and ratcheting up the allegations about Garcia (now he's one of the leaders of MS13), and the chairman of the FCC is now threatening media organizations who talk about him.

View embedded media

Yeah, keep believing that…lol

Surprised your not in Cody Balmer’s court.

 

[HALL85]

I think that's an incredibly weak view that they should ignore an actual constitutional violation by the president because of PR to be honest, and I don't agree that they are losing the PR fight. I think reasonable people understand how F'd up it is to send anyone to a prison in El Salvador, by mistake and then act like you can't do anything to get that person back.

They have lost the border argument. Trying to win it back using Garcia is not a good PR strategy. They’d be better to focus on tariff uncertainty. Supporting Garcia just gives Trump more air in the room to talk about Biden’s biggest failure and his greatest accomplishment.

Why? Who can compel him to follow the order?

His own interests.

 

[cernjSHU]

They have lost the border argument. Trying to win it back using Garcia is not a good PR strategy. They’d be better to focus on tariff uncertainty. Supporting Garcia just gives Trump more air in the room to talk about Biden’s biggest failure and his greatest accomplishment.

His own interests.

You should ne more interest that he is defying the SCOTUS ruling. Once a president is allowed to ignore a Supreme Court ruling which is the ultimate check of presidential power, we have entered into an authoritative state. Throw out the Constitution. Is this what you want?

 

[Merge]

They have lost the border argument. Trying to win it back using Garcia is not a good PR strategy.

He was wrongfully deported. The government has admitted that.
We deported someone by mistake and are defying SCOUS in facilitating their return and you're talking about the PR spin. smh...

 

[Merge]

Once a president is allowed to ignore a Supreme Court ruling which is the ultimate check of presidential power

My guess is one of two things, they are either testing the court to see if they will be able to get away with shifting power away from the courts to the executive (stated goals of project 2025) or Garcia is dead so they can't actually bring him back to the US, but are going to let the story die out before admitting that.

 

[HALL85]

He was wrongfully deported. The government has admitted that.
We deported someone by mistake and are defying SCOUS in facilitating their return and you're talking about the PR spin. smh...

You don’t think both parties are using this for political PR purposes? You know the answer.

We know what happened and what the courts response was. We obviously disagree on the responses by both parties and who is winning on the public’s c opinion front.

Maybe listen to a Dem Congressman who agrees with me….

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...-democratic-lawmaker-warns-report/ar-AA1D2DGp

 

[SoOrange84]

Who cares who wins the public argument, Trump and his acolytes are openly defying the law, which should outrage every American regardless of where you stand on this issue.

We were a nation of laws the last I checked,

 

[HALL85]

Who cares who wins the public argument,

Because the public votes?

Trump and his acolytes are openly defying the law, which should outrage every American regardless of where you stand on this issue.

“Trump and his acolytes”….did “deplorables” work well…keep insulting the electorate. Smart move.

We were a nation of laws the last I checked,

And we still are.

 

[HALL85]

https://www.axios.com/2025/04/18/el-salvador-prison-abrego-garcia-senator
-chris-van-hollen

The “notorious” El Salvadoran prison has nicer dinnerware than I have…lol. At least now we know where the hats for the losing Super Bowl team go.

 

[Rockaway]

I don’t remember so much outrage when Biden ignored SCOTUS ruling on college loans.But then again he wasn’t Trump.

 

[Merge]

I don’t remember so much outrage when Biden ignored SCOTUS ruling on college loans.But then again he wasn’t Trump.

The court ruled that Biden could not use a specific law to cancel student loans. Had he still cancelled loans citing that law anyway, your post would make sense... That's not what happened though. Modifying an approach to make it something that the court would not object to is not defying the court.

This isn't a "orange man bad" delusion. It has never happened in your lifetime that a president has actually just ignored an order from the supreme court. Any reasonable person should have an issue with that.

 

[Shaheton]

You should ne more interest that he is defying the SCOTUS ruling. Once a president is allowed to ignore a Supreme Court ruling which is the ultimate check of presidential power, we have entered into an authoritative state. Throw out the Constitution. Is this what you want?

Trump should listen to Supreme Court. Perhaps this person, an illegal alien, should be deported again. Biden should’ve listened to Supreme Court. He didn’t either. Nobody’s swaying any opinions here but I respect the fodder.

 

[cernjSHU]

Trump should listen to Supreme Court. Perhaps this person, an illegal alien, should be deported again. Biden should’ve listened to Supreme Court. He didn’t either. Nobody’s swaying any opinions here but I respect the fodder.

I mean Merge just stated that Biden did not defy a Supreme Court order. He did not. He tried different methods to cancel student debt u see different laws. The Courts struck down those methods as well. Biden never defied the Supreme Court order. That’s just a fallacy.

 

[Shaheton]

I mean Merge just stated that Biden did not defy a Supreme Court order. He did not. He tried different methods to cancel student debt u see different laws. The Courts struck down those methods as well. Biden never defied the Supreme Court order. That’s just a fallacy.

It’s all how one spins it. Happy, healthy Easter to you and all.

 

[cernjSHU]

It’s all how one spins it. Happy, healthy Easter to you and all.

No it’s not how you spin it. These are facts. Amazing how so many educated people are fine with this. You have no idea the ramifications that this will bring to this country.

Oh yeah. Happy Easter.

 

[Merge]

It’s all how one spins it.

Yeah, you have to spin and rationalize pretty hard to excuse Trump for actually defying the court when there is not an example of another president doing that in any of our lifetimes.

 

[Shaheton]

Yeah, you have to spin and rationalize pretty hard to excuse Trump for actually defying the court when there is not an example of another president doing that in any of our lifetimes.

OK, you and Corn persuaded me!