The Social Dilemma
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https://techcrunch.com/2021/02/03/myanmar-orders-telecom-networks-to-temporarily-block-facebook/
Myanmar government initially had Facebook installed on every smart phone; now they are blocking it due to the instability and genocide that's been created.
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That argument is like gun control. The media is fine. It's the cohort of idiots that are toxic. They will be toxic with or without social media.
There are plenty people using social media in a good way. I think over time, the bad uses will diminish.
In the context of history, its a relatively new media.
As more people suffer the consequences of on-line stupidity, we will adapt our behaviors.
We just terminated an employee for bad posts.
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Exactly. You can't shut it down, but you can adapt and also regulate it. Right now the social media companies are left to police themselves. Something that Congress should be prioritizing.
What kind of business are you in? Granted I don't know all the details here but in general, this is a slippery slope. Unless the employee is using company time and making it known that they are speaking for the company, I think they could fight the discipline.
I agree. I signed up for Facebook when it first came out back in the mid 2000s. Since 2010 I've probably logged on less than 50 times over those full 11 years and I don't use it to interact with people. I use twitter, but I hate what it has become.
Even though I have an account I wouldn't mind if they shut it all down some day. That will never happen, but I wouldn't be opposed to it. It's so poisonous to our society because people who want to cause trouble now have a platform to use and to portray themselves as something they are not.
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There are also plenty of good people who have been duped by fake news on social media. The uneducated are outing themselves on social media, as they pushed the election fraud bs. Many good people I like in my community fell into this farce.
There have always been people out there trying to dupe or take advantage of others. Social media and the embedded AI, just takes it to a level that the mind can't keep up. Infinitely more dangerous in being taken advantage, but you also just can't stop technology and advances.
It may not be the most elegant analogy, but we have the FDA which regulates the clinical trial and drug release process to protect us, but you can launch a social media site without little oversight that lacks those same protections and can potentially do so much more damage (as evidenced in Myanmar).
this is false. the platforms are actively brainwashing people to keep swiping and have algorithms to play off their emotions. they also keep all your data... even if you dont have an account they know who you are
The industry is immaterial.
Sure they can fight it but I would not take the odds she wins. Anyone can sue anyone.
There is plenty of precedent for people being terminated for on-line posting. Do some googling on that.
For this person, the straw that broke the camels back was disparaging remarks about Rachael Levine.
It caused her removal as president from a school board and censure. Plenty of publicity.
Retweet about Levine sparks calls for Upper Perkiomen School Board member’s resignation
A petition with more than 4,000 signatures is calling for the resignation of Upper Perkiomen School Board member Raeann Hofkin after she retweeted what some consider transphobic and derogatory rema…
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Our company has recently invested in training and awareness for diversity and inclusion. We take it seriously. It's not just a box to check. Her remarks are not consistent with our views, reflect poorly on our company, and pose risk to our business.
We have 7,000 employees and a strong HR function. We are very careful with terminations. I think we are in good shape with this one.
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So it was retweets, not even her own words. Disappointed that you and your company are ruining a woman's life because of retweets you don't agree with. People and companies need to stop caving to the woke mob.
That train left the station a few years ago.
The digital breadcrumbs we leave go way beyond social media.
Respectfully disagree based on the article you linked and the associated petition. Not enough to fire somebody and a severe overreaction by the person who initiated the petition. That person is a part of the woke mob I speak of.
nah not to the level fb has. they know your face and your name even if youve never had an account
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Someday the mob will come for you too because you won't be woke enough for their next perverse experiment.
Are we really at the point where we have to act like this transgender mental illness is normal? Holy cow.
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The industry is immaterial.
Sure they can fight it but I would not take the odds she wins. Anyone can sue anyone.
There is plenty of precedent for people being terminated for on-line posting. Do some googling on that.
For this person, the straw that broke the camels back was disparaging remarks about Rachael Levine.
It caused her removal as president from a school board and censure. Plenty of publicity.
Retweet about Levine sparks calls for Upper Perkiomen School Board member’s resignation
A petition with more than 4,000 signatures is calling for the resignation of Upper Perkiomen School Board member Raeann Hofkin after she retweeted what some consider transphobic and derogatory rema…
Our company has recently invested in training and awareness for diversity and inclusion. We take it seriously. It's not just a box to check. Her remarks are not consistent with our views, reflect poorly on our company, and pose risk to our business.
We have 7,000 employees and a strong HR function. We are very careful with terminations. I think we are in good shape with this one.
Are your views that people cannot disagree with the transgender thing?
Granted she was stupid for publicizing that.
Isn’t it just a testament to her decision making process? As you say, it was stupid. In this day and age, can’t you argue that someone who is so stupid that she does not understand potential repercussions of making a decision and without even weighing out the cost/benefit of making a post, that she may not have the capacity to make good decisions in a work setting? The post was that important to her being?
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100% agree with all of that. I see it all the time on social media where people say questionable things.
It just seems there is no consistency with consequences. Its open season on white males, you can say pretty much anything about that group of people, but god forbid you disagree with LGBTQIA or BLM you're sent to the gallows.
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Its not about agreeing. It about respecting the individual.
You do not have to accept transgenderism in order to respect a transgender person.
My view is that people should be treated with respect regardless of their race, creed, color, size, shape, sexual, orientation, gender identification, team they root for, who they vote for, and on and on.
Plenty of companies have "Respect for the Individual" as an operating principal. That was ingrained in me during my years at IBM.
My view also is that you represent your family, your company your church, your alma mater 24 X 7 and you should conduct yourself accordingly. That was ingrained in me as an Army officer.
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That is certainly true.
Trump did us no favors with the example he set with Twitter.
Right behind him is a long line of politicians, MSM, celebrities, sports figures, etc. who post vile things with little to no consequences.
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Respect is essential, it's been lost with people looking for cheap likes on twitter and Facebook. I can respect that people deal with issues I cannot fathom, but I cant agree that the transgender thing is normal, and certainly should not be a main stream thing like the media and companies like to push. This celebrating that a transgender is part of Bidens team or was elected in Delaware is just another sign that weve lost our way as society.
preach. its crazy how you cant* discriminate or be racist unless towards white males. then it doesnt count. white isnt a race.
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This is the most important statement. People who think they are doing the "right" thing now may not be willing to go far enough for the mob in the future. The woke mob spares nobody and this train will keep speeding up unless people come together to stop it.
Can’t stop the train, but my advice is to stay as far away from it as possible. Ignore these idiots, stay off social media with your opinions and let the train wreck occur while you are miles away. Bass majority of people live their lives and don’t pay any attention to this nonsense. Don’t give into the fringe.
We don't push it. We don't condone it or judge it. Most people I know have a hard time with it as do I as do and as the parents of my second cousin who is trans do.
We simply educate our employees on the issue and provide guidelines for behaviors that help to create an inclusive non-threatening work environment. We ask that our employees abide by those guidelines. We allow dialogue by all parties so people can be heard and we can address challenges.
Simple example is the preferred use of pronouns. "He" or "She" as they request or often "They". This as opposed to referring to them as "It" or "that thing". If Dawn has become Dan and wants to be called Dan then we ask people to call them Dan, not, "hey Dawn.. I mean Dan.. whatever."
Just basic human decency and maturity.
We also deal with the more difficult things. Which bathroom do they use such that they are comfortable as are the non-trans people? You can scoff at it but at some point in the day people have to take a piss or a dump.
Good advice. I have considered deleting my twitter in recent months, but I do enjoy it for college hoops lol.
Our family has had personal dealings with Levine in her former role (Prior to being PA Secy of Health). She was most helpful in expediting a family medical issue that may have save my nieces life.
Having said that, I do not think her background qualified her to be Secy of Health for PA. I was not enamored with her handling of COVID. I don't think her background makes he particularly qualified to be US Asst Secy of Health.
I do think Biden is making a statement with her and the fact that she is trans was the factor most considered. I think there are plenty more people more qualified except that many of are white males.
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I’m not suggesting you have to delete social media accounts, but rather avoid posting opinions or views on anything political or controversial. Take it for what it is. A source of information that is fast but very often inaccurate, slanted or biased. I still have my social media accounts but it is really limited to just family, friends and sports related stuff. I’ve had friends and relatives that I have had to put on ignore because I just don’t want to get involved in any of that nonsense. There is absolutely no upside at all.
