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Originally posted by boatshu:
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Originally posted by phi_pirates:
Originally posted by TheBluePirate:

The Holy Cross fight song would be a defter form of "killing someone softly" - perhaps reserve these acts of protest for WHEN the implosion starts - good heavens, God Above, spare us somehow.

By the way, if singing is involved, my section 9 gang knows that I *will* sing, loudly and on key.
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BluePirate & 88
Now we'll see the creativeness of this Board in seeing how many " bitching about " will be added to BP's injecting of humor for the day post.
 
The problem this past season wasn't talent, IMO. Not even really depth although that was pretty weak.

It was attitude and effort. And that's why the fan base is up in arms. What we saw down the stretch in losing 9 of 10 with lackluster rollovers was absolutely ridiculous. The game at MSG against Marquette in the BET was beyond embarrassing.

Until those things are proven it doesn't matter how next year's roster shapes up or what roles players fall into.

So yeah, would be great for Desi and Delgado to play like Pope and Robinson from a few years back, for our guards to wreak havoc and play together, for some of those young bigs to give key minutes off the bench, but what does it all mean!?!? Are we tough or not?

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It's not only Willard on the Hot Seat but the entire SHU program on the Hot Seat next year.

Spoke to someone who is intimately involved with amateur basketball and knows Seton Hall quite well. Says the perception that Seton Hall is doing the right thing by giving Willard another year to show stability (SHU administrations viewpoint) is actually being perceived by the industry as Seton Hall not really being invested (not talking monetarily) in its program.
 
Originally posted by SPK145:
It's not only Willard on the Hot Seat but the entire SHU program on the Hot Seat next year.

Spoke to someone who is intimately involved with amateur basketball and knows Seton Hall quite well. Says the perception that Seton Hall is doing the right thing by giving Willard another year to show stability (SHU administrations viewpoint) is actually being perceived by the industry as Seton Hall not really being invested (not talking monetarily) in its program.
That is exactly right. We are about to learn the wrong lesson from the firing of Louis Orr!!!
 
SPK
Thanks for that input. The " show stability " card that the SH administration was attempting to use as its excuse for bringing KW back was weak on its face and to hear that it's actually being perceived negatively is not surprising and the silence from SH continues !
 
Originally posted by SPK145:
It's not only Willard on the Hot Seat but the entire SHU program on the Hot Seat next year.

Spoke to someone who is intimately involved with amateur basketball and knows Seton Hall quite well. Says the perception that Seton Hall is doing the right thing by giving Willard another year to show stability (SHU administrations viewpoint) is actually being perceived by the industry as Seton Hall not really being invested (not talking monetarily) in its program.
It really just comes down to the buyout. Do you honestly believe that if SHU wasn't on the hook for this buyout they'd be singing this same tune??

All these reasons that SHU has given to keep Willard via Jerry Carino etc. are nothing more than excuses to divert attention away from the fact that they are unwilling to eat the buyout. and that is absolutely an indication of not being invested in its program. Easy for all to see and painful for fans to accept.
 
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