TikTok Ban

[Robot_Man]

The bill to ban TikTok passed both houses of Congress overwhelmingly and was signed into law by Biden. And now they're just not going to do it?



This guy used to call TikTok "an arm of the communists." Now he says they're working to "keep TikTok going." What's the deal?

 

[Merge]

The bill to ban TikTok passed both houses of Congress overwhelmingly and was signed into law by Biden. And now they're just not going to do it?

Biden is washing his hands of the issue because it is very unpopular.
Trump has pledged to save it, so he is kicking the issue over to Trump.

The ban is ridiculous though. I don't think they're afraid of security or privacy because there are many other Chinese apps they are not going after. This seems to be more about having more power over the entities where information is being shared.

 

[NYShoreGuy]

Biden is washing his hands of the issue because it is very unpopular.
Trump has pledged to save it, so he is kicking the issue over to Trump.

The ban is ridiculous though. I don't think they're afraid of security or privacy because there are many other Chinese apps they are not going after. This seems to be more about having more power over the entities where information is being shared.

Tiktok influencers curried favor to gop types and trump campaign this cycle

 

[Merge]

Tiktok influencers curried favor to gop types and trump campaign this cycle

Republicans figured out where people are and found ways to message them. They did a FAR better job than democrats on that front.
Tiktok was part of that for sure.

 

[shu09]

It should be banned unless it is sold to a non-Chinese company.

 

[Robot_Man]

Donald Trump the sage political policy master with this perspicacious insight: TikTok is popular.

Meanwhile you've got the Democrats:

 

[Merge]

It should be banned unless it is sold to a non-Chinese company.

Why?

 

[Merge]

Donald Trump the sage political policy master with this perspicacious insight: TikTok is popular.

Meanwhile you've got the Democrats:

Exactly. It’s not that the republicans were geniuses here, but Dems were just inept. Kind of handicapped because Harris was too transparently fake for social media.

 

[shu09]

Why?

National security threat.

 

[Merge]

National security threat.

They collect the same data every other social media app collects, and they would get pulled from the App Store if there was something in there that could violate rules or potentially laws. They moved the storage of data to oracle mitigating the risk of access of that data from other countries. A text message with a fake link is a much bigger security risk than an app vetted by Apple.

I’d buy the argument that they could potentially show you videos they want you to see and block ones they don’t but if that starts happening, users will be turned off and move away from the app.

Personally I think it’s more that the US government wants the ability to influence content and they don’t have as much leverage to do so with TikTok. They know they’ll have more power if the ownership is in the US.

Plus, there are many other Chinese apps allowed in the US. The fact that we didn’t move to ban them all makes me think it is more about the content than security.

 

[SHUSA]

oh no, think of the influencers!!

 

[Merge]

oh no, think of the influencers!!

There are millions of people who have used TikTok to build an audience for their brand/business. It would be a shame if they lost that.

Meta spent the most lobbying money they ever spent to try and get it banned, and it was voted on by members of congress who hold investments in Meta. It’s insane that we have no law against that.

The security concerns are overstated, and they switched it to be about being worried about propaganda instead. Something that isn’t really happening on the platform and there have been far more examples of foreign propaganda on Meta and X.

 

[SHUSA]

There are millions of people who have used TikTok to build an audience for their brand/business. It would be a shame if they lost that.

Meta spent the most lobbying money they ever spent to try and get it banned, and it was voted on by members of congress who hold investments in Meta. It’s insane that we have no law against that.

The security concerns are overstated, and they switched it to be about being worried about propaganda instead. Something that isn’t really happening on the platform and there have been far more examples of foreign propaganda on Meta and X.

there are millions of people being replaced by machines and ai who actually provide a real service and value to the population.

your point about simply being able to line the pockets of politicians to ban things is the massive issue. thats insane.

i do believe the US algos are set to run braindead addictive content to our youth. and i do think our youth is going to be much worse off. they cant maintain a 10a attention span. think about that. and i do believe chinas algos in their apps promote more substance.

 

[Merge]

there are millions of people being replaced by machines and ai who actually provide a real service and value to the population.

Indeed, but then removing an income stream from people who make content about their bakery, coffee roasting company, reviewing movies and TV shows etc isn’t going to help with robots taking over. It’s the opposite really.

i do believe the US algos are set to run braindead addictive content to our youth. and i do think our youth is going to be much worse off. they cant maintain a 10a attention span. think about that. and i do believe chinas algos in their apps promote more substance.

I’m in agreement there, but that’s not what they targeted with the bill. They only targeted one company who is a direct competitor to the company lobbying against it and the algorithm for instagram vs TikTok seems worse there in my experience using the apps with my kids.

 

[Robot_Man]

 

[SHUSA]

Indeed, but then removing an income stream from people who make content about their bakery, coffee roasting company, reviewing movies and TV shows etc isn’t going to help with robots taking over. It’s the opposite really.



I’m in agreement there, but that’s not what they targeted with the bill. They only targeted one company who is a direct competitor to the company lobbying against it and the algorithm for instagram vs TikTok seems worse there in my experience using the apps with my kids.

eh. that money was going to be circulated around anyway. what about the businesses that don't use tik tok. feel like he money will be distributed in another way. many ways to market

 

[Robot_Man]

Completely foreseeable outcome to all of this.