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He didnt have the nil support he sought...so he went from least at shu, to heart beat not good enough at maryland
 
I don't think we fought to keep him.
Didn’t matter how hard or not hard

I think KW was salty that his opus team got covid canceled…I think the plan was ride that team to a presumably long tournament run and get out of dodge

I think this partly is why his last couple years were slightly checked out
 
I think KW was salty that his opus team got covid canceled…I think the plan was ride that team to a presumably long tournament run and get out of dodge

I think this partly is why his last couple years were slightly checked out






That sure is a lot of speculation based on your imagination. I'm not saying you are wrong; that's what coaches do. Our own coach just did it last year coming off a NIT championship.
 
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I think KW was salty that his opus team got covid canceled…I think the plan was ride that team to a presumably long tournament run and get out of dodge

I think this partly is why his last couple years were slightly checked out






That sure is a lot of speculation based on your imagination. I'm not saying you are wrong; that's what coaches do. Our own coach just did it last year coming off a NIT championship.
I think it’s pretty obvious

He knew how low our ceiling was and that was “his team”
 
Hasn't worked out so well for us, has it?

1. That’s not at all what happened here and he flirted with multiple openings to bump his pay here.
2. I’m not of the opinion Seton Hall is struggling in the NIL era because Kevin Willard is gone. I think there’s multiple causes that far outweigh him leaving.
3. Maryland is in a different stratosphere than Seton Hall in terms of who they can hire.
 
1. That’s not at all what happened here and he flirted with multiple openings to bump his pay here.
2. I’m not of the opinion Seton Hall is struggling in the NIL era because Kevin Willard is gone. I think there’s multiple causes that far outweigh him leaving.
3. Maryland is in a different stratosphere than Seton Hall in terms of who they can hire.
1. That's part of the business. A lot of people in the everyday world do it.

2. NIL? Go read this board 10 years ago, 15 years ago about how dirty Boeheim, Calhoun and Wright were. We were being outspent then, we're being outspent now. The numbers are just bigger and out in the open. In order to compete we had to hire assistants connected to players because we couldn't drop off a bag equal in size. We were behind in dirty behind the scenes money and we're behind with in your face pay to play money. People just think it's worse because they now see how the sausage is made.

3. It sure sounds like they're really not in a different stratosphere. It's all relative. It sounds like he's being outspent by his competition no different than we are. We actually have a new practice facility. They need one. Sounds like Queen could've gotten a few hundred thousand more to go to Indiana. Sounds like they got Reese to stay for less. And it sounds like he knows he's not getting the funding and that's why he's leaving.
 
2. NIL? Go read this board 10 years ago, 15 years ago about how dirty Boeheim, Calhoun and Wright were. We were being outspent then, we're being outspent now. The numbers are just bigger and out in the open. In order to compete we had to hire assistants connected to players because we couldn't drop off a bag equal in size. We were behind in dirty behind the scenes money and we're behind with in your face pay to play money. People just think it's worse because they now see how the sausage is made.
Well, that and the fact that the sausage costs about 100 times more than it did then, comparing a $5 million budget of today to what you used to get done for $50,000. The clandestine nature of breaking the rules kept all the costs down because you couldn't attract attention and you had to retain plausible deniability. And on top of that, only the real upper echelon of players had that kind of leverage to cash in.
 
Well, that and the fact that the sausage costs about 100 times more than it did then, comparing a $5 million budget of today to what you used to get done for $50,000. The clandestine nature of breaking the rules kept all the costs down because you couldn't attract attention and you had to retain plausible deniability. And on top of that, only the real upper echelon of players had that kind of leverage to cash in.
Bingo. And there’s a big difference been the money pouring in now that it’s legal versus what was being done in the shadows or through sneaker companies. It’s not the same, it’s not the same bell curve either where all simply stayed proportionately even.
 
1. That’s not at all what happened here and he flirted with multiple openings to bump his pay here.
2. I’m not of the opinion Seton Hall is struggling in the NIL era because Kevin Willard is gone. I think there’s multiple causes that far outweigh him leaving.
3. Maryland is in a different stratosphere than Seton Hall in terms of who they can hire.
This is just about inarguable. We might be struggling even worse long-term (hard to imagine a single year being much worse than this one was) given Willard's lack of zeal for recruiting. Hard to say, but it's very hard to imagine he would be doing better here under the same circumstances.
 
This is just about inarguable. We might be struggling even worse long-term (hard to imagine a single year being much worse than this one was) given Willard's lack of zeal for recruiting. Hard to say, but it's very hard to imagine he would be doing better here under the same circumstances.
Well it also couldn’t be much worse. Maybe 1-19? 💀
 
Well, that and the fact that the sausage costs about 100 times more than it did then, comparing a $5 million budget of today to what you used to get done for $50,000. The clandestine nature of breaking the rules kept all the costs down because you couldn't attract attention and you had to retain plausible deniability. And on top of that, only the real upper echelon of players had that kind of leverage to cash in.
The fact it's out in the open and 100 times more actually helps some schools. Schools who always had the money guys who didn't want to be involved in the shady stuff have benefited. I mean even SJU wasn't crushing it in recruiting before the change. Now they are. Seton Hall's problem remains the same. We're behind and there's only a first place winner in recruiting. Bottomline is no matter how the rules change, Seton Hall is always behind.
 
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This is just about inarguable. We might be struggling even worse long-term (hard to imagine a single year being much worse than this one was) given Willard's lack of zeal for recruiting. Hard to say, but it's very hard to imagine he would be doing better here under the same circumstances.
Just confirming.....You are aware we had 7 wins this year? Right. LOL
 
I thought that was made clear by writing "(hard to imagine a single year being much worse than this one was)."
Sorry this last line had me confused.

"Hard to say, but it's very hard to imagine he would be doing better here under the same circumstances."
 
Kevin Willard will be coaching Villanova.

In this a fever dream? What in the world. 🤣

COVID, NIL, free transferring… what a wild ride the last few years.
 
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