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Buzz Williams reportedly interested in Terps job. That would be a petty good fall back plan to Willard.
Buzz has always said he doesn’t like the idea of staying in one place too long. He would be a big time get, but I’m curious what he would want considering they have no clue what the vision of the next AD is. I definitely see him playing the same cards Willard played as far everything spelled out with dotted i’s and t’s crossed in his contract.
 
Buzz looking for a new contract at A&M? They have tons of $. Would be nuts for him to take the Nova or MD job.
 
1. That's part of the business. A lot of people in the everyday world do it.

2. NIL? Go read this board 10 years ago, 15 years ago about how dirty Boeheim, Calhoun and Wright were. We were being outspent then, we're being outspent now. The numbers are just bigger and out in the open. In order to compete we had to hire assistants connected to players because we couldn't drop off a bag equal in size. We were behind in dirty behind the scenes money and we're behind with in your face pay to play money. People just think it's worse because they now see how the sausage is made.

3. It sure sounds like they're really not in a different stratosphere. It's all relative. It sounds like he's being outspent by his competition no different than we are. We actually have a new practice facility. They need one. Sounds like Queen could've gotten a few hundred thousand more to go to Indiana. Sounds like they got Reese to stay for less. And it sounds like he knows he's not getting the funding and that's why he's leaving.
"because we couldn't drop off a bag equal in size." or had bookmakers paying to recruit players as they did at a Big Ten school beginning with M.

I don't know the fascination of Willard here. Fascination should be why our program has atrophied to the era before PJ and Mark Bryant. Of extreme concern is we are not competitive in a conference that did not crack the 16. There are 12-15 elite college BB programs and another 12-15 knocking at the door. We are in neither group and it looks now they are beyond our grasp. We need visibility through winning in our conference. I don't want to revisit my memories of being at the Garden chanting for an invite to the NIT.
 
"because we couldn't drop off a bag equal in size." or had bookmakers paying to recruit players as they did at a Big Ten school beginning with M.

I don't know the fascination of Willard here. Fascination should be why our program has atrophied to the era before PJ and Mark Bryant. Of extreme concern is we are not competitive in a conference that did not crack the 16. There are 12-15 elite college BB programs and another 12-15 knocking at the door. We are in neither group and it looks now they are beyond our grasp. We need visibility through winning in our conference. I don't want to revisit my memories of being at the Garden chanting for an invite to the NIT.
The fascination is simple. 70 years is not a short time. We've had about 10-12 coaches in that time. Only 3 have been to multiple NCAA tournaments, only 2 have ever made back to back tournaments. It's not like people are walking in the door and putting us on the map on a regular basis.
 
willard is our 2nd best coach of the BE era. Like it or not.
Willard never got to the Sweet 16. He under achieved with some very good teams. Granted, Covid took away perhaps the best team he had. But he still woefully underachieved. Amaker in the Sweet 16 in year three.
 
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Willard never got to the Sweet 16. He under achieved with some very good teams. Granted, Covid took away perhaps the best team he had. But he still woefully underachieved. Amaker in the Sweet 16 in year three.
You can't talk about someone underachieving and then bring up Amaker as someone who over achieved. Amaker had as much a capital behind the scenes as any SHU coach. That's why he got the players he got and got to the NIT with his best team. A team that was top 10 in the beginning of the year.
 
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Willard never got to the Sweet 16. He under achieved with some very good teams. Granted, Covid took away perhaps the best team he had. But he still woefully underachieved. Amaker in the Sweet 16 in year three.
And then had a catastrophic year four and left. And Amaker never got to the NCAA in seven- eight years at Michigan. C’mon man.
 
Willard never got to the Sweet 16. He under achieved with some very good teams. Granted, Covid took away perhaps the best team he had. But he still woefully underachieved. Amaker in the Sweet 16 in year three.
Tommy Amaker coached perhaps the most disappointing season in Seton Hall history. He took a team with two first round NBA draft picks, including a lottery selection to a first-round NIT loss.

If you can say with a straight face that Willard, who made five (six) NCAAs in a dozen seasons when we've made eight NCAAs since P.J. left, underachieved; good on you.
 
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A&M paid Jimbo Fisher $75M to go away. Thats the type of money there. I have a hard time believing Buzz Williams would leave for Maryland. Shocked to read he’s only 52.
 
Pretty much the entire industry saw this coming the second it got rumored.

Why would you lie for your “source?” You were very adamant, and yet the exact opposite occurred…
Because he was not on the list originally. When they knew they weren’t getting Odum and then Collins, he got on the list (because of Jay). But keep beating a dead horse.
 
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You can't talk about someone underachieving and then bring up Amaker as someone who over achieved. Amaker had as much a capital behind the scenes as any SHU coach. That's why he got the players he got and got to the NIT with his best team. A team that was top 10 in the beginning of the year.
Fact is that Amaker achieved something Willard never did.

So what that people thought that Amaker would be in the Final Four with a bunch of freshman, one of whom was mentally ill. It’s irrelevant. Who accomplished more? That’s Amaker. While Amaker may have underachieved with the Eddie Griffin class, Willard under achieved with probably 4 different years. Thinks about it, Amaker won more Tournament games in one year than Willard ever did at Seton Hall.

What Amaker did when he left Seton Hall is irrelevant. Sha’s senior year will always be better than any team that Willard had.
 
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Fact is that Amaker achieved something Willard never did.

So what that people thought that Amaker would be in the Final Four with a bunch of freshman, one of whom was mentally ill. It’s irrelevant. Who accomplished more? That’s Amaker. While Amaker may have underachieved with the Eddie Griffin class, Willard under achieved with probably 4 different years. Thinks about it, Amaker won more Tournament games in one year than Willard ever did at Seton Hall.

What Amaker did when he left Seton Hall is irrelevant. Sha’s senior year will always be better than any team that Willard had.
Of course Amaker achieved something Willard didn’t. If it wasn’t for covid Willard would have achieved something pj never did 5 straight tournaments. That wouldn’t make Willard the better coach because I can cherry pick 1 thing someone achieved that another didn’t.
 
Man do I hope we can get back to a position where we're making the NCAA Tournament every year and complaining about not winning more games there.

Shaka Smart is going through some of the same. He's 98-41 at Marquette, 55-24 in the BE and has won a BE RS + BET championship, yet he's just 3-4 in the NCAAT and that included two years with #2 seeds. 1-and-done twice too.
 
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So again I ask...was the whole well it is a good time to change jobs because the kids can only move and change schools once a valid line?
 
Willard is a solid B to B+ coach in my eyes. With Villanova’s resources at his disposal he’ll probably end up doing well but quite honestly this hire wouldn’t move me much if I were a Nova fan.
I think it's a very good hire for them. When you contrast Willard's background to what was available, he's the best option. He's a Big East guy. He's taken Seton Hall and Maryland to 8/10 NCAA Tournaments, won a couple conference titles and made a Sweet Sixteen. He built up some very good teams in that stretch too at both schools.

What a world for SHU fans. We just watched what Kadary Richmond did at St. John's, Dre Davis playing deep in the NCAAT, now Kevin Willard to Villanova. SMH.
 
Willard stay was 3 calendar years and 1 week in College Park. He feels slighted that his boss AD left, perhaps the NIL pie wasn't going to be so much and despite Maryland giving a great new AAV he felt it wouldn't matter to get on court results done
 
Tommy Amaker coached perhaps the most disappointing season in Seton Hall history. He took a team with two first round NBA draft picks, including a lottery selection to a first-round NIT loss.

If you can say with a straight face that Willard, who made five (six) NCAAs in a dozen seasons when we've made eight NCAAs since P.J. left, underachieved; good on you.
Steve Pikell just had a Tommy Amaker type of season. The difference is; Pikell isn’t going anywhere. Literally and figuratively.
 
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So again I ask...was the whole well it is a good time to change jobs because the kids can only move and change schools once a valid line?
Do you know if the kids like it down there? If they don’t, is he to say I can only move once with the kids? Or is it a one time move and if they don’t like it suffer in silence?
 
Willard to Nova. The worst kept secret these past 2 weeks.

Although the knee jerk reaction is to say Willard sucks, screw Nova, etc.., I see it as a big positive. I do think Willard will get Nova back on track which is good for the Big East. It’s also hopefully extra ammunition for our Athletic Department to get motivated and work as hard as possible to making our program the best it can be. God knows, we certainly have a practice facility that shows we’re serious about competing.

Everybody should make a donation to PB/Onward Setonia this week in a show of solidarity.
 
Willard is a solid B to B+ coach in my eyes. With Villanova’s resources at his disposal he’ll probably end up doing well but quite honestly this hire wouldn’t move me much if I were a Nova fan.
What were Villanova’s alternatives? That’s the best way to view how good of a hire this is for them. They’re weren’t many great choices. Richard Pitino? Chris Collins? Willard is no worse than those guys to say the least.
 
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One will be 19 in aug the other 17 in june
And that tells you if they’re happy there? I could give you 1,000 reasons why it could be in the best interest of any family to move. Thousands of families move more than they ever intended for work purposes. You talk like they’re the first family to plan one thing only to change course a few years later. That very well may have been the plan to only move once. Life happens. I think the saying is I plan, God laughs.
 
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