Wisconsin

[Hallsome]

Looks really bad. I feel and pray for those kids in that car. Very sad.

why did the guy defy the officers?

why did the cops shoot 5 times in the back?

these questions require answers ASAP, before riots happen and for example some pro athlete throws gas on the fire

 

[HALL85]

Looks really bad. I feel and pray for those kids in that car. Very sad.

why did the guy defy the officers?

why did the cops shoot 5 times in the back?

these questions require answers ASAP, before riots happen and for example some pro athlete throws gas on the fire

This will be an issue that decides the election, and I think it favors Trump in the red/toss-up states.

 

[SPK145]

Looks really bad. I feel and pray for those kids in that car. Very sad.

why did the guy defy the officers?

why did the cops shoot 5 times in the back?

What was this known past violent criminal reaching for when he tried entering rhe vehicle?

Looks bad though.

these questions require answers ASAP, before riots happen and for example some pro athlete throws gas on the fire

LOL, too late for that.

 

[NYShoreGuy]

Looks really bad. I feel and pray for those kids in that car. Very sad.

why did the guy defy the officers?

why did the cops shoot 5 times in the back?

these questions require answers ASAP, before riots happen and for example some pro athlete throws gas on the fire

Again like the incident in atlanta, how does more than one officer allow someone to break free? Tackle him, tase him but dont put 7 in his back and paralyze him

 

[SHUSA]

What was this known past violent criminal reaching for when he tried entering rhe vehicle?

Looks bad though.




LOL, too late for that.

maybe, uh, keys?

this is the type of stuff that even cops should be protesting. it causes nothing but problems. its terrible. it seems like every week you see something like this.

 

[SPK145]

Again like the incident in atlanta, how does more than one officer allow someone to break free? Tackle him, tase him but dont put 7 in his back and paralyze him

Definitely agree with this. Don't let it get to a more escalated stage. But that works both ways though.

 

[sami]

Definitely agree with this. Don't let it get to a more escalated stage. But that works both ways though.

Seriously, it does work both ways. When will people learn that you should treat officers with a level of respect. Hell, I got pulled over for speeding the other day and it was yes sir, no sir, thank you sir and I went on my way. But damn, when will cops learn you don’t put 7 in someone’s back when you let him walk away from you. Should have never gotten to that from either side.

 

[SPK145]

Seriously, it does work both ways. When will people learn that you should treat officers with a level of respect. Hell, I got pulled over for speeding the other day and it was yes sir, no sir, thank you sir and I went on my way. But damn, when will cops learn you don’t put 7 in someone’s back when you let him walk away from you. Should have never gotten to that from either side.

Well put.

 

[SH_Alum]

Seriously, it does work both ways. When will people learn that you should treat officers with a level of respect. Hell, I got pulled over for speeding the other day and it was yes sir, no sir, thank you sir and I went on my way. But damn, when will cops learn you don’t put 7 in someone’s back when you let him walk away from you. Should have never gotten to that from either side.

Isn't the whole point of the protests against police officers that some of them don't treat minorities the same way? I know this is damn near impossible, but put yourself in the shoes of a racial minority, growing up in an area overrun by crime. What would be your perspective on police? What if you treated police officers with the utmost respect but some of them still were aggressive with you? I'm certainly not saying you shouldn't treat the cops with respect. But the comfort you feel with police around is different from others who are fearful.

 

[HALL85]

Isn't the whole point of the protests against police officers that some of them don't treat minorities the same way? I know this is damn near impossible, but put yourself in the shoes of a racial minority, growing up in an area overrun by crime. What would be your perspective on police? What if you treated police officers with the utmost respect but some of them still were aggressive with you? I'm certainly not saying you shouldn't treat the cops with respect. But the comfort you feel with police around is different from others who are fearful.

If you fear the police why would you not comply?

I’m not excusing bad cops and their behavior but when you resist, the odds of something bad happening are going to increase dramatically.

BTW, I support body cams.

 

[Hallsome]

maybe, uh, keys?

this is the type of stuff that even cops should be protesting. it causes nothing but problems. its terrible. it seems like every week you see something like this.

Maybe is a big maybe

 

[Hallsome]

Isn't the whole point of the protests against police officers that some of them don't treat minorities the same way? I know this is damn near impossible, but put yourself in the shoes of a racial minority, growing up in an area overrun by crime. What would be your perspective on police? What if you treated police officers with the utmost respect but some of them still were aggressive with you? I'm certainly not saying you shouldn't treat the cops with respect. But the comfort you feel with police around is different from others who are fearful.

Not sure how you can be justified in walking away from a cop screaming to freeze.

 

[Merge]

Not sure how you can be justified in walking away from a cop screaming to freeze.

Yeah, you really can't justify it.

No one to defend here. Once that guy reaches in the car, the cop absolutely has to protect himself, but... Was it not possible to stop him before he got to the door? 3 cops can't restrain him? No taser?

 

[sami]

Isn't the whole point of the protests against police officers that some of them don't treat minorities the same way? I know this is damn near impossible, but put yourself in the shoes of a racial minority, growing up in an area overrun by crime. What would be your perspective on police? What if you treated police officers with the utmost respect but some of them still were aggressive with you? I'm certainly not saying you shouldn't treat the cops with respect. But the comfort you feel with police around is different from others who are fearful.

I don’t see what this means in response to my post. I clearly think there are police who are in the wrong, like these guys. I don’t know why I keep falling into the trap on this page, but if it’s not one side it’s the other.

I think police should be expected to act in a higher manner. I think the expectations on police should also be reciprocated with a level of respect they deserve.

Police who act in a terrible manner toward anyone, not just minorities, are just as low level as the criminals we complain about.

 

[NYShoreGuy]

And for all the mighty republican senators that have gone in big on china and against nba and wnba where is their voice to mighty mitch asking for the senate to vote on the justice in policing act that was passed by house months back?

 

[CucamongaPirate]

And for all the mighty republican senators that have gone in big on china and against nba and wnba where is their voice to mighty mitch asking for the senate to vote on the justice in policing act that was passed by house months back?

What would the signing of that bill changed in this situation?

 

[SHUSA]

Maybe is a big maybe

cant imagine it being any more likely that a guy getting out of his car has a gun in his pocket over car keys.

and when you watch the video it actually looks like hes pulling up his shorts. the officer didnt even fire at that point so clearly that is an irrelevant piece of info spk offered. just a comment trying to somehow justify the actions in the video (while covering himself by saying its bad)

theres simply no other valid reaction than being completely outraged by this. its sickening how nonchalant the reactions are.

the guy got shot 7 times at point blank in the back with kids in the car. the video is absurd.

not to even mention how many videos ive seen now where police go full tony montana on a guy and then continue to cuff them like nothing happened. none of those officers even batted an eye that they just turned his body into the somme. no rush, no urgency. just going about their way as the guy is bleeding out on the ground. its bad.

 

[NYShoreGuy]

What would the signing of that bill changed in this situation?

https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th...o eliminate discriminatory policing practices.

 

[CucamongaPirate]

https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/house-bill/7120#:~:text=Justice in Policing Act of 2020,-This bill addresses&text=It includes measures to increase,to eliminate discriminatory policing practices.

This doesn’t answer my question, so I’ll assume you know that it wouldn’t have changed anything.

It is tragic that his family had to witness this, but all of this was caused by his actions.

If he wasn’t resisting and fighting with officers, would the end result be the same?

 

[SPK145]

and when you watch the video it actually looks like hes pulling up his shorts. the officer didnt even fire at that point so clearly that is an irrelevant piece of info spk offered. just a comment trying to somehow justify the actions in the video (while covering himself by saying its bad)

He pulled up his pants before entering his vehicle. The cops didn’t shoot until he lunged forward after entering the vehicle. Sorry I don’t just give into your narrative. Still looks bad but not conclusive.

 

[NYShoreGuy]

This doesn’t answer my question, so I’ll assume you know that it wouldn’t have changed anything.

It is tragic that his family had to witness this, but all of this was caused by his actions.

If he wasn’t resisting and fighting with officers, would the end result be the same?

Sadly i feel if this were a white man in Kenosha i am not certain he is shot 7 or 8 times like this

 

[CucamongaPirate]

Sadly i feel if this were a white man in Kenosha i am not certain he is shot 7 or 8 times like this

Great response. If I responded that white men are more likely to be shot by police are you going to call me a racist? Facts matter.

 

[Pirata]

Forget about the yes sir okay sir.

How about not making a sudden move to get back into the car?

Would anyone on this board in their right mind make a fast move to open their glove compartment to get their registration insurance card?

have you ever noticed that when police approach a car on the passenger side of the vehicle they have their hand on their gun? The reason they do that is that so they can draw the gun out and fire it quickly.

Do you people realize that police train to try to shave 10th of seconds off the time it takes to draw their weapon and fire it?

someone asked the question why he fired five times. Perhaps it was because that's all the rounds he had in the clip?

 

[NYShoreGuy]

Great response. If I responded that white men are more likely to be shot by police are you going to call me a racist? Facts matter.

I have watched encounters with white officers on highways and parking lots vs aggressive white men with non gun weapons in hand making threatening movements not one bullet fired

 

[HALL85]

I have watched encounters with white officers on highways and parking lots vs aggressive white men with non gun weapons in hand making threatening movements not one bullet fired

Numbers don’t support your theory.

 

[CucamongaPirate]

I have watched encounters with white officers on highways and parking lots vs aggressive white men with non gun weapons in hand making threatening movements not one bullet fired

Wow. I know that you’re going to see things through your own prism but really?

 

[NYShoreGuy]

Wow. I know that you’re going to see things through your own prism but really?

I saw this the other day and ex uk and nba guy just posted this

 

[CucamongaPirate]

The two situations are completely different. Plus,
I think you just disproved your own theory.

 

[NYShoreGuy]

A black man goes to a 7/11, wawa style store and he is acting suspicious for using an atm...2 white cops have to verify every CC to make sure id checks and then comment what a black man is doing in the suburb...now i want to know the next time a white man uses an atm in Harlem and 2 black officers say he is acting suspicous and need to check all cards for id and then at the end ask what he is doing in the hood....



https://www.tmz.com/2020/08/25/cops-interrogate-black-man-for-having-too-many-credit-cards/

 

[HALL85]

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A black man goes to a 7/11, wawa style store and he is acting suspicious for using an atm...2 white cops have to verify every CC to make sure id checks and then comment what a black man is doing in the suburb...now i want to know the next time a white man uses an atm in Harlem and 2 black officers say he is acting suspicous and need to check all cards for id and then at the end ask what he is doing in the hood....

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https://www.tmz.com/2020/08/25/cops-interrogate-black-man-for-having-too-many-credit-cards/

Please make the case that a cherry picked article extrapolates to systematic racism. Go..

 

[CucamongaPirate]

Please make the case that a cherry picked article extrapolates to systematic racism. Go..[/QUOTE

You can’t bring logic into this now

 

[SH_Alum]

Not sure how you can be justified in walking away from a cop screaming to freeze.

Shouldn’t the real question be how can you justify shooting a human being in the back that many times while he’s walking away from you?

 

[SH_Alum]

Great response. If I responded that white men are more likely to be shot by police are you going to call me a racist? Facts matter.

Per Capita?

 

[CucamongaPirate]

Just keep moving the goalposts and cherry picking videos.

 

[SH_Alum]

Just keep moving the goalposts and cherry picking videos.

76% of people in the US are white while 13% are black. Of course more white people are shot at by police officers.

Having not verified these numbers but according to statista.com, between 2015 and 2020, the rate of fatal shootings per million of the population: 31 Black, 23 Hispanic, 13 White.

I wasn’t aware basic stats was moving the goal post.

 

[HALL85]

76% of people in the US are white while 13% are black. Of course more white people are shot at by police officers.

Having not verified these numbers but according to statista.com, between 2015 and 2020, the rate of fatal shootings per million of the population: 31 Black, 23 Hispanic, 13 White.

I wasn’t aware basic stats was moving the goal post.

And in total the number is ridiculously small percentage of all police encounters. Statistically there is zero proof that this is a systemic issue across 20,000 police forces.

 

[cernjSHU]

WE don't have all the facts. It looks like Blake was not complying with the officer's commands. Were they arresting him? If so, for what? Why was the cop's gun out when Blake is walking towards his car? If he is Under arrest, again why is the gun out? Why aren’t the officers trying to tackle him to restrain him?

Looks like another example of a scared officer who doesn’t know what do when his commands are not being complied with. So, he goes to the threat of deadly force when not confronted with deadly force.

In the end, the officer is going to say that Blake was not complying with his commands and he was in fear for his life that he was reaching into his car for a weapon. Although that does not look that believable.

 

[Pirata]

I have watched encounters with white officers on highways and parking lots vs aggressive white men with non gun weapons in hand making threatening movements not one bullet fired

That's it?

I'm willing to take a flyer that no one on this board has ever seen a cop fire a gun. I would go so far as to say no one on this board knows anyone who has ever seen a cop fire a gun.

NYPD has about 20 adversarial shootings per year. Throughout their careers most cops never fire their gun on the job.

You're anecdotal post is a data point of one and offers no value.

 

[HALL85]

That's it?

I'm willing to take a flyer that no one on this board has ever seen a cop fire a gun. I would go so far as to say no one on this board knows anyone who has ever seen a cop fire a gun.

NYPD has about 20 adversarial shootings per year. Throughout their careers most cops never fire their gun on the job.

You're anecdotal post is a data point of one and offers no value.

I have seen a police officer fire a gun once in my entire life..... and that was to put a deer down that had been mortally injured after being hit by a car.

 

[NYShoreGuy]

That's it?

I'm willing to take a flyer that no one on this board has ever seen a cop fire a gun. I would go so far as to say no one on this board knows anyone who has ever seen a cop fire a gun.

NYPD has about 20 adversarial shootings per year. Throughout their careers most cops never fire their gun on the job.

You're anecdotal post is a data point of one and offers no value.

What does your premise of no one here seeing any law enforcement officer deploy their weapon in real time have to do with the fact that since this Blake incident, there have been a handful of videos found that display examples of white on white with the outcome.of no bullets in the flesh?

It is my understanding Blake has legal issues cocurrent to this incident. If he was part of trying to come between an ongoing skirmish, why didn't police unit detain/restrain him vs breaking loose, even breaking loose deploy the taser, take him down, get him cuffed