OT: St. John's hires Rohrssen
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Flnj is the ultimate troll. Hes like Colbert and we're the few republicans that actually believe hes serious.
Jackson, Wisc All B1G guard, broke his foot at the start of the 2nd half so he was gone also. BTW he played a some in the Final Four but was clearly not any where near 100%. That being said, I saw that game and RU played a good 2nd half and pulled off the win. It was their last win of the season.
So when Chieck Diallo commits, then we can tell Flnj86 to get real?
Every Hall fan I know would take Mullin, Slice and Abdelmassih every day of the week and twice on Sundays. Mullin has never coached before, we get it. Willard has been coaching for 8 years...and all he's proven to be good at (other than from all accounts being a nice guy) was negotiating an absurd buyout.
This post was edited on 4/13 10:00 PM by dcPirate
Lavin forgot more about coaching than Mullin and the rest of his staff. How was Rohrssen as a Head coach at Manhattan? Who is the other SJU assistant , what was he a manager at SJU. Let's wait and see how Seton Hall does on the court next year.
This post was edited on 4/13 10:17 PM by Flnj86
This post was edited on 4/13 10:17 PM by Flnj86
You hit the nail on the head there imo... Some guys are just cut out to be great ASSISTANT coaches. Pitino called Willard the best X/O's assistant he has ever had. He should go back to being a top assistant as maybe that is just where he excels. No shame in that whatsoever.
This thread is/was about the moves STJ is making not Seton Hall. If you don't think Rohrssen and Abdelmassih are great recruiting hires then there really is no use arguing with you as you have your Seton Hall blue blinders on. If The Hall hired those 2 guys we'd be ecstatic with the hopes of having so much talent it could easily overcome the coaching.
Have to agree. Mullin has possibly the best staff in the league and that happened overnight because SJU committed entirely to being successful.
You can't ask for more that that.
Plus anyone who is hoping that Mullin fails as a coach know this. He is as competitive a person as you will ever find. Had zero (or less than that if possible) physical ability, yet he still was a great (not good) BB player. That inner drive combined with his vast experience in the game after his playing days were over makes him a great candidate to be what SJU and this new league needs.
You can't ask for more that that.
Plus anyone who is hoping that Mullin fails as a coach know this. He is as competitive a person as you will ever find. Had zero (or less than that if possible) physical ability, yet he still was a great (not good) BB player. That inner drive combined with his vast experience in the game after his playing days were over makes him a great candidate to be what SJU and this new league needs.
my favorite stories of Mullin are that as a college player he would buy a 6 pack of beer, go to the gym and practice his shooting for a couple of hours while downing beers. Eventually led to him be an alcoholic, but I just think that is classic.
I started following College Basketball back in the Mullin years at St. John's. I actually considered going there, but didn't like the idea of going to college in Queens. Hard to root against him.
I started following College Basketball back in the Mullin years at St. John's. I actually considered going there, but didn't like the idea of going to college in Queens. Hard to root against him.
I don't think anybody has made him out to be a coaching legend, I know I haven't. We have no idea what kind of coach he can/will be obviously. What he has done thus far is hire a tremendous staff (uh - the topic of this thread...) and is putting himself in the best possible position to succeed. I would think his 3rd assistant will be more of a tactician-X/O's type guy.
Obviously the media is also fawning over him and from truly a basketball/recognition standpoint he has earned it. The STJ name is back in the mainstream media which can only help him attract players/talent to once again give him the best chance at success. Obviously he is going to have to coach these kids, motivate them, manage game situations, etc. but if they can get the horses in there, I like his chances.
Obviously the media is also fawning over him and from truly a basketball/recognition standpoint he has earned it. The STJ name is back in the mainstream media which can only help him attract players/talent to once again give him the best chance at success. Obviously he is going to have to coach these kids, motivate them, manage game situations, etc. but if they can get the horses in there, I like his chances.
It's very clear that St. John's thought a lot about this process and what they wanted to do long before the season was over IMO. Hope our folks are doing the same thing in case the trend continues.
Hoiberg had no coaching experience when he started at Iowa State. Mullin's situation is nearly identical to Hoiberg. Both had no coaching experience before they were hired, both were NBA executives, and both were hired by their alma maters.
No you dont. You dont believe praise is earned OR given baised on your resume. You praise Kevin Willard. Hes earned nothing, he has no resume, hes doo doo baby.
stop being such an incessant troll
Pirate6711. Fred Hoiberg had a similar background when he first started out in coaching, but over the years he proved he can coach at the college level. For every Fred Hoiberg there are many more with this background ( even the Coaches who coached on the NBA level) that were busts when trying to coach at the college level. He has proved himself while Mullin has not proved anything yet.
You are completely missing the point, as usual. How many guys with a similar background are fortunate enough to land in a "perfect spot" with a school/administration that is willing to give them whatever they need to be successful when bringing back a favorite son. STJ is stepping up, he has brought in 2 of the top recruiters out there, especially with NYC area ties. He may very well fall flat on his face as a coach, we shall see. My money is that he will be more than capable of getting STJ to a consistent top 3-4 team in the Big East which as a BE conference fan is needed.
Had Mullin taken a job at a school that isn't willing to pony up $ for top assistants or treat their flagship program LIKE a flagship program I would have more concerns about his success. The guy has been successful at everything he has done in his life, my gut says this will be no exception.
I have to laugh regarding those who are working so hard to convince themselves that SJU has not made some major moves to re-claim the glory they had in the past. If people do not think that SJU has not declared war on all others in the tri state area regarding recruitment, winning, and exposure, you are really not looking at the entire picture. SJU had forgotten how to get the local guys to stay home. A kid like Whitehead would have been at SJU years ago. That was a huge loss to them and one the people in Jamaica have not forgotten.
The new staff at SJU is a dynamic one and even better a very competitive and likable staff. Trust me they have a group that after meeting them anyone would be impressed. Now this does not say SHU and RU cannot get it done. It just means you have to work harder and really get additional media support while getting the most out of your players. SJU will again have 16,000 at MSG and SHU and RU need large crowds as well. SJU is on a mission to become the NY and NJ varsity leaving all others as the JV!
The new staff at SJU is a dynamic one and even better a very competitive and likable staff. Trust me they have a group that after meeting them anyone would be impressed. Now this does not say SHU and RU cannot get it done. It just means you have to work harder and really get additional media support while getting the most out of your players. SJU will again have 16,000 at MSG and SHU and RU need large crowds as well. SJU is on a mission to become the NY and NJ varsity leaving all others as the JV!
Did you just suggest building a 10,000 seat arena for Seton Hall where Grove Park sits right now? If so, I'm sorry, but that may literally (and that's using the actually definition) be one of the most foolish things I've ever read.
Chris Mullin's dream first week gets better with two key additions
New St. John's coach Chris Mullin added recruit Yankuba Sima and assistant Barry "Slice" Rohrssen on Monday. Photo: Anthony J. Causi
Chris Mullin couldn't have scripted a better first five days as St. John's coach, or a better first Monday on the job.
Less than a week into his tenure, he has already secured three player commitments and filled two of three spots on his coaching staff, both high-level recruiters with significant northeast ties to carry out his vision of keeping the best local players home.
On Monday, Mullin landed 6-foot-11 center Yankuba Sima, a three-star recruit who was being recruited by Maryland, Arizona, Louisville and Baylor, and later in the day, St. John's announced the addition of Mullin's good friend and ace recruiter Barry "Slice" Rohrssen to his staff as the Red Storm's associate head coach. Rohrssen, who spent five years as the Manhattan College head coach and left Kentucky to come home, joins Matt Abdelmassih, who was also announced on Monday, but was known to be in the fold as early as last Tuesday. Rohrssen and Mullin both attended Xaverian High School in Brooklyn.
"This opportunity is a blessing," Rohrssen, who is believed to have received a six-year deal that mirrors Mullin's, said in a statement. "It is with both pride and pleasure to be back home in the great city of New York."
As soon as Mullin and Abdelmassih came aboard, they made Sima a priority, seeing promise in the big man who came to America from Spain in September, splitting the year at Arlington Country Day School and Elev8 Sports Institute in Florida. A source said Sima's academics are "fine." Sima, who took an unofficial visit to St. John's on Thursday, said he ultimately picked St. John's because of the opportunity to play right away and the confidence Mullin and Abdelmassih had in him after watching film and seeing him work out.
"They showed that they appreciate me," he said in a phone interview. "I'm sure I will improve and get better there. I will have a chance to show how I can play."
Sima is known for his shot-blocking and rebounding ability, but he also has soft hands and has improved on the offensive end in his one year in the United States.
"He has great upside," one Division I coach familiar with Sima said.
The days of St. John's being undersized look to be the in the past. In the last five days, the new staff has landed three forwards 6-foot-8 or taller in JUCO transfer Darien Williams, a one-time Iowa State signee, 6-10 Tennessee transfer Tariq Owens and now Sima.
Chris Mullin couldn't have scripted a better first five days as St. John's coach, or a better first Monday on the job.
Less than a week into his tenure, he has already secured three player commitments and filled two of three spots on his coaching staff, both high-level recruiters with significant northeast ties to carry out his vision of keeping the best local players home.
On Monday, Mullin landed 6-foot-11 center Yankuba Sima, a three-star recruit who was being recruited by Maryland, Arizona, Louisville and Baylor, and later in the day, St. John's announced the addition of Mullin's good friend and ace recruiter Barry "Slice" Rohrssen to his staff as the Red Storm's associate head coach. Rohrssen, who spent five years as the Manhattan College head coach and left Kentucky to come home, joins Matt Abdelmassih, who was also announced on Monday, but was known to be in the fold as early as last Tuesday. Rohrssen and Mullin both attended Xaverian High School in Brooklyn.
"This opportunity is a blessing," Rohrssen, who is believed to have received a six-year deal that mirrors Mullin's, said in a statement. "It is with both pride and pleasure to be back home in the great city of New York."
As soon as Mullin and Abdelmassih came aboard, they made Sima a priority, seeing promise in the big man who came to America from Spain in September, splitting the year at Arlington Country Day School and Elev8 Sports Institute in Florida. A source said Sima's academics are "fine." Sima, who took an unofficial visit to St. John's on Thursday, said he ultimately picked St. John's because of the opportunity to play right away and the confidence Mullin and Abdelmassih had in him after watching film and seeing him work out.
"They showed that they appreciate me," he said in a phone interview. "I'm sure I will improve and get better there. I will have a chance to show how I can play."
Sima is known for his shot-blocking and rebounding ability, but he also has soft hands and has improved on the offensive end in his one year in the United States.
"He has great upside," one Division I coach familiar with Sima said.
The days of St. John's being undersized look to be the in the past. In the last five days, the new staff has landed three forwards 6-foot-8 or taller in JUCO transfer Darien Williams, a one-time Iowa State signee, 6-10 Tennessee transfer Tariq Owens and now Sima.
Maybe this is the fire that Willard needs. The team, too. I agree with Dan, if Sterling Gibbs comes back, the team could be a good one next year. It was only short rebounding this year and some ball control lapses. Mullin is in it to win it. My impression with Lavin was he took the job to give his wife more exposure for her NY career, modeling or acting, or whatever it was. I feel OK for this next season, but my optimism for the Pirates' following year isn't as high. It's about time St John's had good basketball. Now it is up to Mullin & Co to deliver. The reality is that headlines eventually die along with the hype.
Did you just suggest building a 10,000 seat arena for
Seton Hall where Grove Park sits right now? If so, I'm sorry, but that
may literally (and that's using the actually definition) be one of the
most foolish things I've ever read.
Lloyd, this is the same "expert" who stated last year that Fu had a low basketball IQ.
Seton Hall where Grove Park sits right now? If so, I'm sorry, but that
may literally (and that's using the actually definition) be one of the
most foolish things I've ever read.
Lloyd, this is the same "expert" who stated last year that Fu had a low basketball IQ.
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