It's the offense with the Dual. Over the past 7 games or so he seems to have more of a clue. He has an average 103 o-rating the past 7. While only .420 from the field but 18/36 from 2, 3/14 from 3. He's 11/16 from the line and gotten there more frequently. He has 32 assists to 10 turnovers for a team that's been short handed and stunk and that's the best measure of his improvement while play 35 MPG the past 7., especially the turnover improvement. He's been better offensively.

Overall in BE play his 22.6 assist rate is 11th in the league (good), but he has a 23 turnover rate (bad). He's 14th in block rate and 5th in steal rate (good). We know he's a pretty good defender overall; not elite, but could get there.

the student section sucked last yr and is incredibly bad this yr. i know we arent that good. but bad high schools have more students watching them.

The 1-point loss only dropped UCONN's NET 4 spots, from #31 to #35 today. Their KP is also #35. It was their second Q3 loss. They are 17-8, 9-5, and 5-4 Q1, 4-2 Q2, 3-2 Q3, 5-0 Q4. They've beaten so many good teams: Baylor, Texas, Gonzaga, Marquette, Creighton.

Hey we jumped 13 spots to #211, woo hoo!!

Was at a Monmouth game a couple if weeks ago and my Monmouth fan buddy said the students never come. That night , they gave the kids pizza and soda. They saw a great 0T game and students see this as an exciting event. Attendance has been up ever since.

Right now most of these guys are quality backups but not impact starters in the BE. U recruit.over just about everyone until u cant

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I don’t think it’s overly complicated. When they are good they’ll show up, when they stink they won’t outside of a few marquee games. It’s not a problem exclusive to seton hall.

Student section was the best all year

hallgrad80 said:

UConn will likely take a hit in the rankings and could drop out of the top 25..

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They were not ranked this week in the ap poll, though receiving votes...coaches poll they were 24 but that poll is not recognized by the media

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Pirate143 said:

it has been discussed other threads, but really, where are the students.

Over the course of a four-year college experience, there are only 40 Big East home games. With the number of students that both live on campus and in the area, it’s a lifetime experience to go to those games. I’m not certain if it’s cost or transportation or like this year, obviously lack of interest. there should be at least several hundred at every game.

To me, this is just symbolic of poor planning and execution by athletic administration. Doing things the old way is just not a recipe for success moving forward. With a couple home games left, hopefully they put some creativity into the thought process and get the students at the games.

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Holiday weekend- kids go skiing, home,etc.

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NYC Pirate said:

If they can win another couple of games it could also increase the SHU fan turnout at The BigEast Tournament. Let's see if the UConn win creates an upswing in play. At minimum we can now look forward to the remaining games.

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Agreed. Such a quick turnaround on the road at Marquette however

Piratz said:

Bingo. The season started miserably with Fordham, Hofstra, and arguably one of our worst home losses even in the drubbing freaking Monmouth gave us. In the BE we were a 1-12 team. Good Lord. Yeah, you're going to get like 2-3k when you're like this.

Was glad at least we had a game were the fans showed and the place felt like the last 10 years again. Nice. Another reminder of what this Administration robbed Sha and us of this year. Gross.

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If they can win another couple of games it could also increase the SHU fan turnout at The BigEast Tournament. Let's see if the UConn win creates an upswing in play. At minimum we can now look forward to the remaining games.

hallwins said:

Dual stats since St John's game:

Assists
3, 3, 5, 4, 5, 6, 6, 3

Steals
6, 2, 3, 3, 2, 1, 2, 2

Blocks
3, 2, 0, 0, 0, 0, 2, 2

Points
8. 6. 10, 13, 6, 6, 6, 9

Rebounds
3, 2, 4, 0, 1, 4, 4, 2

FG %
50, 60, 40, 50, 16, 33, 50, 50

Turnovers
5, 1, 2, 1, 1, 1, 4, 0

Minutes
28, 34, 38, 30, 31, 37, 39, 38

Free Throws
12 of 18


He is a young sophomore.

Yes, I want him back and I want to make him the centerpiece centerpiece of the retention plan with Godswill, Coleman and Dual.

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They are 1-7 with an average margin of defeat since the St John’s game of 17.5 points. Sure he could continue to improve but without a huge leap you’re looking at the bottom of the league again Next year. There’s also a degree of padding those stats by playing in games where you are getting your doors blown off.

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Dual stats since St John's game:

Assists
3, 3, 5, 4, 5, 6, 6, 3

Steals
6, 2, 3, 3, 2, 1, 2, 2

Blocks
3, 2, 0, 0, 0, 0, 2, 2

Points
8. 6. 10, 13, 6, 6, 6, 9

Rebounds
3, 2, 4, 0, 1, 4, 4, 2

FG %
50, 60, 40, 50, 16, 33, 50, 50

Turnovers
5, 1, 2, 1, 1, 1, 4, 0

Minutes
28, 34, 38, 30, 31, 37, 39, 38

Free Throws
12 of 18


He is a young sophomore.

Yes, I want him back and I want to make him the centerpiece of the retention plan with Godswill, Coleman and Dual.

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hallwins said:

He also correctly noted the team has given the fans very little to cheer about at home. It is a 2 way street.

Hopefully, this game brings the students back a bit. Students should be a constant.

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Bingo. The season started miserably with Fordham, Hofstra, and arguably one of our worst home losses even in the drubbing freaking Monmouth gave us. In the BE we were a 1-12 team. Good Lord. Yeah, you're going to get like 2-3k when you're like this.

Was glad at least we had a game were the fans showed and the place felt like the last 10 years again. Nice. Another reminder of what this Administration robbed Sha and us of this year. Gross.

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Dual has been improving - actually driving north/south at times for a change - but there will be better PG options available. Some continuity is important. I'm not sure we have a BE starter with eligibility other than Coleman. Middleton could be for sure. Erheriene is showing big time of late. I'd probably try to keep Felton around. I see Dual (plus defender with length, maybe can develop more offensively) and Aligbe as solid bench players. Aligbe flashed for a bit, but for some reason seems more effective as a undersized center than a BE starting PF. I like Yalden for all the little things maybe.

So that's 7. And that's basically our depth. Need impact/starting PG and SG, legit starting big or two.

Our 5th-year players are the ones that really burnt us this year from poor play and/or injuries (Addae-Wusu, Jenkins, Toumi). And the whiff on Harmon who should've been an experienced PG didn't help, obviously.

ivyhillparkk1963 said:

For one thing the fans showed up. Something they haven't done all year.
Holloway said first game all year felt like a home court advantage..

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He also correctly noted the team has given the fans very little to cheer about at home. It is a 2 way street.

Hopefully, this game brings the students back a bit. Students should be a constant.