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2024 Presidential Election ?

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I realize that we are 2.5 years away and much can happen before then, but do you think it will be a rerun of Biden v Trump and if not who do you think will be the nominees of the two major party's from your crystal ball. I'm asking who you think will be the nominees, not who you want them to be?.

Personally I would hope that America would have better choices than another Biden - Trump match up.

Tom K
 
Anyway here are my thoughts: I don't think either will be the candidate (I certainly hope not.) Problem for the Dems is that all the supposed contenders are too old or just plain boring. Yes personality does count in any election. The Dems have become the geriatric party. As to the GOP there will be someone to challenge Trump. Trump is the only candidate that Biden can beat & the GOP will realize this as we get closer to an election.

My best guesses are Beto O'Rourke becomes the Dem front runner IF he wins the Governorship in Texas. If not he's out. Otherwise the strongest candidate would be Booker (I'm not a fan of his but as a candidate he would check the most boxes for the Dem Primaries).

On the GOP side The Florida Governor is making a strong pitch (unfortunately), but I think Lindsey Graham could be their guy.

Tom K
 
Neither Biden nor Trump will be the nominees.

I think some of the GOP candidates will be Pence, Cruz, DeSantis, Hogan, Haley, Cotton and Toomey. Dem candidates may include Harris, Buttigieg, Whitmer, Newsom, Klobuchar, Rice and Murphy.
 
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Neither Biden nor Trump will be the nominees.

I think some of the GOP candidates will be Pence, Cruz, DeSantis, Hogan, Haley and Toomey. Dem candidates may include Harris, Buttigieg, Whitmer, Newsom and Murphy.
That’s a pretty decent list but I’d remove Harris, Cruz and Pence as likelies.

Biden is not going to run. He can’t even keep up now and the Dems know he would take a beating. If Trump even runs, the Republicans will do what the Dems did with Biden and collapse the field quickly to box out Bernie. The big field gave Trump an opening to get the nomination and Hillary was the only Dem he had a chance to beat.

Buttiigeig and DeSantis are most likely but there’s a long way to go. I don’t see the attraction of Beto at all.
 
judging on "proximity to trump" being literally the only thing that reps are running on in the primary i can easily see trump getting the nomination.

no way dems want biden to run again, he wont be fit. no idea who will eventually get the nod. thinking mayor pete.
 
I hope Biden is the nominee because he would lose to Pee-Wee Herman if he were the Republican candidate.

I say this because the Democratic Party has gone off the deep end with their policies and stances on issues. Unless they figure out a way to bring some sanity back to their platform, I fear for this country if they remain in power.

On the Republican's side, I'd like to see Trump's polices carried forward by someone who can be respected as a president.

Not in any particular order:

Taxes
Debt
Border
Energy
Crime
Foreign Policy
2nd Amendment (Protection and Reforms)
Reduce Regulation
Supply Chain
Putting Covid to rest
Stop offering Free Stuff
No more Stimulus Money
Stop printing Money
 
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Trump will be the nominee and no one can beat him in a primary. Period I would like Romney but that’s not going to happen.

The Dems are out of luck. There are no good candidates. That is why Hillary has been floated. I have been hoping that there would be this candidate that comes out of nowhere like Bill Clinton did. But I just don’t see it.

Tom mentioned Booker who I find as insincere blow hard.

I don’t know anything about him but Beshear is a Democratic Governor in Kentucky. But this would be the type of under the radar candidate that could be come out from nowhere. Southern democrats can be good like cooper from North Carolina. I would like Manchin to run but he has an age issue. Manchin beats Trump and that all that counts.

In the end, I believe It will be a rematch of Biden v Trump.
 
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I'd be stunned if it's Biden v. Trump. Flat out stunned (and disappointed).

Five times in US history have the major party nominees both been the same in consecutive cycles, but only once since the dawn of the 20th century (1796/1800, 1836/1840, 1888/1892, 1896/1900 and 1952/1956).
 
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I do not think Trump will be the nominee.

The majority of my Republican acquaintances feel the same way. "He is an a__hole but we liked his policies"

The media will be 10 times worse on him and he would not be effective.

Of course this is just like trying to predict who's going to win the super bowl next year and I could easily be wrong. I hope I'm not.
 
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I do not think Trump will be the nominee.

The majority of my Republican acquaintances feel the same way. "He is an a__hole but we liked his policies"

The media will be 10 times worse on him and he would not be effective.

Of course this is just like trying to predict who's going to win the super bowl next year and I could easily be wrong. I hope I'm not.

To be fair, the media always treats GOP presidents with intense vitriol. That went for Nixon, Ford, Reagan, both Bushes as well. It’s amazing that Reagan or even Bush Jr got as much of their agendas through given the hostility of the media. The media loves a defeated and neutered GOP presidential candidate (think Romney or McCain) only after the fact, but treats them quite differently in the moment.

“Like the policies, not the guy” was an especially common refrain during the GWB years as well. (“He’s not very bright, he speaks like a….”). With every passing day of the Biden catastrophe, the Trump era will only look like Camelot by comparison. Also, don’t underestimate how much a reversal of Roe vs Wade will boost Trump’s standing across much of America’s heartland (including key swing states such as PA, WI, MI, AZ, etc). For all of the media’s current hyperventilating, it won’t have much of an actual impact on blue states, who will just codify even more extreme abortion regimes at the state level, as in NJ.

I wouldn’t imagine that De Santis (who’s the only realistic alternative to Trump) will be treated any better than Trump by the media. It’s hard to isolate how much of the media’s vitriol in 2020 was simply a function of its increasing leftward radicalization, rather than of Trump’s obvious personal idiosyncrasies.

In the end, barring something unforeseen, it will almost certainly be Trump from the GOP. A lot of what I read in this thread are just the machinations of a shrinking and evermore-marginalized pool of NJ Republicans. Things look very different for the GOP outside of NJ. Meanwhile, I suspect it will be Biden for the Dems, though I wouldn’t rule out Hillary.

It’s extremely hard (and insanely expensive) to build up their level of name recognition and organizations. Those advantages will be virtually impossible to overcome, even for a rising star like De Santis, who may have to wait for 2028.
 
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Disagree about the Trump/Biden race.

Trump had some novelty in 2016 and he was the "not-Obama" candidate. After seeing the way he publicly handled the pandemic and January 6, I don't see him making it past the first primary. And as I said before the RNC will collapse the filed like the DNC did with Biden (that shut Bernie out). The only reason Biden got elected, was that they hid him and he was not Trump. If these two 80 year old clowns are the candidates, we are done as a country. I don't think the public will tolerate either much less both.
 
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I voted for Trump ,but hope republicans are smart enough not to nominate him again.My concern is that they will not be smart enough not to nominate him again.
 
nope i mean the current stuff youre addressing. you think this was a biden plan put in motion?

your quote referenced this:

Stop offering Free Stuff
No more Stimulus Money
Stop printing Money


Printing money equates to QE

Stimulus is stimulus.

FDR started both.
 
your quote referenced this:

Stop offering Free Stuff
No more Stimulus Money
Stop printing Money


Printing money equates to QE

Stimulus is stimulus.

FDR started both.
yea it was trump that did it. not biden. which is what you were getting at. now youre trying to bullshit about fdrs new deal like thats what america needs to move on from. laughable attempt.

its amazing how many people actually believe biden produced the stimulus
 
do you remember what president started this?

I responded:


Where in that did I say anything about Trump or "that is what America needs".

Are you reading the same forum as I am?

Your post here makes no sense:

yea it was trump that did it. not biden. which is what you were getting at. now youre trying to bullshit about fdrs new deal like thats what america needs to move on from. laughable attempt.

its amazing how many people actually believe biden produced the stimulus
 
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Where in that did I say anything about Trump or "that is what America needs".

Are you reading the same forum as I am?

Your post here makes no sense:
this is what you said:

"On the Republican's side, I'd like to see Trump's polices carried forward

...Stop offering Free Stuff
No more Stimulus Money
Stop printing Money"

yes, you slipped these in at the end of stating what policies to carry forward. then instead of clarifying that you know trump was president when those issues started, you tried to pin the stimulus on fdr. essentially denying the issue was his doing. the delusion is unreal. abaolutely unreal, yet unsurprising.
 
this is what you said:

"On the Republican's side, I'd like to see Trump's polices carried forward

...Stop offering Free Stuff
No more Stimulus Money
Stop printing Money"

yes, you slipped these in at the end of stating what policies to carry forward. then instead of clarifying that you know trump was president when those issues started, you tried to pin the stimulus on fdr. essentially denying the issue was his doing. the delusion is unreal. abaolutely unreal, yet unsurprising.
The list was intended as the current issues I am concerned with. I could have been clear in my post particularly with the last three that I was not necessarily attributing to to Trump's policies.

Regarding your style of posting and the nasty comments, it does nothing to bolster your argument. I won't sink to your level other than to suggest you learn how to spell. It would make reading your posts more tolerable.
 
The list was intended as the current issues I am concerned with. I could have been clear in my post particularly with the last three that I was not necessarily attributing to to Trump's policies.

Regarding your style of posting and the nasty comments, it does nothing to bolster your argument. I won't sink to your level other than to suggest you learn how to spell. It would make reading your posts more tolerable.
lol my spelling? it was not clear because you said you want someone to continue trumps policies. then listed the policies including policies that were the opposite of trump. meaning you actually believe it wasnt trumps doing.
 
I want moderates to win across the board in primaries so obviously what will
happen is all the extreme radical politicians will win and there will be no good candidate to vote for once again.

Gerrymandering and most states system on primaries are the problem.

Is it possible to vote on both republicans and democratic primaries? And if not, why?
 
I want moderates to win across the board in primaries so obviously what will
happen is all the extreme radical politicians will win and there will be no good candidate to vote for once again.

Gerrymandering and most states system on primaries are the problem.

Is it possible to vote on both republicans and democratic primaries? And if not, why?
thats how they campaign. because everyone thinks a radical needs to take out the other party. moderates arent gonna stave off wokeness or racism. the primaries are a huge issue.
 
Neither Biden nor Trump will be the nominees.

I think some of the GOP candidates will be Pence, Cruz, DeSantis, Hogan, Haley, Cotton and Toomey. Dem candidates may include Harris, Buttigieg, Whitmer, Newsom, Klobuchar, Rice and Murphy.
I’ve been thinking Mayor Pete is being groomed for that role. If Biden doesn’t run, which seemed like a crazy thought at the outset (he wasn’t supposed to), seems crazier now, but who the hell knows. We saw the D powers coalesce around a hand-picked candidate last time, so maybe they do that with Mayor Pete.

I really hope Trump doesn’t run, but I think he will absent a significant health issue. If he does run, I think he could still win the nomination and he will bloody and batter whoever his opponents are during the primary hurting them in the general. Tell you what though - I know a number of folks who vote all across the spectrum and like Desantis. Not everything, such as the public feud with Disney. But they like a lot about him and what he’s done in Florida, particularly with the COVID response, education, business and woke stuff.
 
I wish Tim Scott or Kristi Noem would run. Hogan could be good too on the Repub side. Maybe DeSantis tries to team up with a VP candidate like Kristi Noem or Tim Scott to produce a more diverse in appearance ticket but we will see. Nikki Haley will run but I think her ties to Trump will hurt her in some circles and help in others. Have heard some not so good things about Nikki lately but she ran a state successfully and we could certainly do worse.

The Kentucky Gov would be a very good candidate for the Dems or Manchin but I think Manchin is too smart to run for Pres. Buttigieg will definitely run - he seems like he is being groomed by some powerful sponsors like Obama was IMO. Kamala will try but she will continue to be a disaster.

Unfortunately my expectation is the candidates will most likely be disappointing and we will feel like we don't have a solid choice again.
 
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Beto’s first job out of college after graduating from an ivy league college was a nanny.He came from money and married an only child of a billionaire.He likes to be in the news,and never worked for a living.Today was as bad as it gets fir this total zero.
 
Beto’s first job out of college after graduating from an ivy league college was a nanny.He came from money and married an only child of a billionaire.He likes to be in the news,and never worked for a living.Today was as bad as it gets fir this total zero.

Maybe Beto will graduate to incoherent message board poster in his near future.
 
Beto just ruined what little chance he had by dancing on the kids graves yesterday. Just a terrible person
 
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