The hospitals in Pennsylvania, even in the hotspots are well past peak. They are all preparing to ramp up elective surgeries as we speak.
Dr. Fauci gives grim projection
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So are some of the NJ systems, past peak or not because they just cannot afford not to any longer. Question now, will the patients come?
As I posted earlier RWJ/Barnabas is past peak and they would be a good bellweather as they have about 11 or 12 hospitals in their system across the state.
Hopefully they don't see an influx of patients Lysol inhalation and UV injections... 
Hopefully they don't see an influx of patients Lysol inhalation and UV injections...
Wasn't it Lysol injections and UV exposure?
Just truly a despicable thing for him to say, I can't even SMH at it, that's how bad he was.
Hopefully they don't see an influx of patients Lysol inhalation and UV injections...
Yes everyone should have their Lysol lunch now.....
Sad thing is.....some people will actually do this....and....probably die
Yeah, I just don't understands why he thinks he needs to talk about the details. He just needs to say that he is hearing promising treatment strategies. Even if that is a bunch of crap, it isn't a completely insane thing to say.
Hopefully they don't see an influx of patients Lysol inhalation and UV injections...
The guy is totally out of control.
That sundowning, disgusting, criminal pig today lied & said he was being sarcastic with the above comments. Here's a president actually being sarcastic:
I'm aware that this very night at that dinner is a big part of why this bloviating monster actually ran for president & is now what we have. Also, I'm no fan of Obama (from the left), but man he consistently knocked these Correspondents Dinner routines out of the park. Had some great writers, but his delivery & timing was pitch perfect.
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Update since yesterday at RWJBarnabas Health...discharged more than 2,500 patients to home after being treated for COVID-19 and are down to 1,327 COVID positive and PUI patients in all facilities, a decrease of 22.4 percent from peak of 1,710 cases on April 13. Clearly on the decline in NJ.
It is quite amazing that he blatantly lies to our face....on camera....the man has zero conscience.
He does know how to play the message and to his constituents....who somehow will believe him.
He set this whole "liberate the states" followed by "I don't agree with what Georgia is doing, but hope they succeed" thing up so he can take credit on both sides. If it succeeds..."see, I told you to liberate the states!"....if it fails "well, I didn't agree with them then, we advised them not to, but it was their decision."
Typical coward move, push the decision to someone else, while sending mixed messages so that at the end, you can take credit.
How his followers don't see thru this.....amazes me.
And....I am NOT a Democrat. so don't think this is coming from a "left leaning liberal"....far from it.
But he has proven over and over to be nothing but a manipulator
The question is what is Phase II? Phase I was very clear and, IMO, effective. The lockdowns were necessary and worked to better contain the virus that was already out there. It also gave valuable time to understand the virus better scientifically.
But now what? How do we avoid going right back into the same mess and having a perpetual up-down curve? Do we have competent leadership that can articulate a bipartisan plan to start restoring life in a sensible way? Doubtful.
But now what? How do we avoid going right back into the same mess and having a perpetual up-down curve? Do we have competent leadership that can articulate a bipartisan plan to start restoring life in a sensible way? Doubtful.
“Political Leadership”...if that’s not an oxymoron I don’t know what is
That would be reasonable. This guy is anything but. He’s out there taking about the viewership ratings of his daily briefings informing the country during a pandemic with 52,000 Americans dead in 6 weeks.
It’s just beyond the pale. We’re not even taking politics or management philosophies here. His antics have been, sadly, a bit normalized
Can you imagine if GWB said that after 9/11?
he makes GWB, a war criminal who should be tried in The Hague along with many in his admin, look like George Washington.
Trump has always been a manipulator and a liar. He is also a coward. Look no further than when he fires someone, he sends someone else to do the dirty work.
Yesterday's lie was shocking, even for him.
Not many things I would have imagined from 12 years ago. But impact of social media, the decline of the MSM, both parties being completely tone deaf, and Congress having an abysmal approval rating. We have now had 12 years of “celebrity” Presidents. We are faced with four more years of Trump or Biden who is in a mental decline. GWB doesn’t look to bad.
lol no. But this was one of the most blatantly obvious examples.
And one of the most idiotic. 5 year olds know not to ingest that stuff
The second wave in fall 2020/winter 2021 will be a lot worse than what is happening right now. I think this lockdown and current social distancing should stay in effect until January 2021. To be honest probably April 2021. Hopefully by then we can start to reopening non essential businesses. Remember treatments won't stop the spread. They will just make symptoms better. Vaccine should come in 2021 or 2022. We will probably continue social distancing/wearing face masks for the rest of our lives.
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Lol social distancing for the rest of our lives...you are either the biggest pansy on the planet or the greatest message board troll.
Nope. People will adopt to this. I'm just saying how it is. People be very to scared to still come out of their houses after there is a Vaccine for COVID-19. They will continue practicing social distancing and wearing masks after that. They say a habit is formed after doing something for 21 days. Social distancing and wearing a mask will be the regular thing to do and become a habit. This is reality. Plus people will continue to wear masks to not get sick on a regular basis.
There won't be any businesses to reopen if we take your advice. Thankfully, we won't.
We'll see! Do we have a timeline of when businesses will open yet? At least in NJ we don't And I wouldn't be shocked if Murphy decides later 2020 or early 2021 as well.
Also it is possible businesses could reopen this summer. But please note they will close again in the fall because of the 2nd wave.
Mild??? Are you kidding me? The common flu and Coronavirus cases hitting the hospitals at the same time? The second wave is going to be a lot worse than what is happening right now. Especially if the government incorrectly opens ups businesses this summer.
Can you please let me know what containment strategy will be able to trace every single person in NY and NJ?I don't know if you notice but what you are suggesting (testing capacity, surveillance, and containment) but it's impossible. But it's alright. People criticized me on this board a couple months ago when I said this will be a world wide pandemic. People wanted to argue that this is the "common flu" and "will pass" without any facts or sources. I was called a moron by those people. Unfortunately I will be right again.
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I asked how things were going in Sweden on another thread only because I saw the very end of an interview with a Swede whose credentials I missed. Doctor? Politician? Businessman? I don't know but I had the impression his point was that the Swedes are taking a path different from most other countries but one that will ultimately work in their favor.
Just now I was watching the second and shorter part of a two part interview with two young emergency doctors in Bakersfield, CA. I need to watch the first and longer segment because what they were saying rings true to me in many ways. I have been very concerned that ultimately our rights as citizens under the Constitution will be attacked. Their comments touched on that but from a medical standpoint. They noted never before have healthy people been quarantined and that If four people out of 100 die, they will be the ones with serious preexisting conditions, and only an infinitesimal number of healthy people will die. They addressed the health risks in staying sequestered indoors for extended periods physically, emotionally, and socially. There is too much for me to recall or recount. Those of you who claim to want to know all opinions in this might well check You Tube. Their names are Drs. Artin Masiki and Dan Erickson who work at Accelerated Urgent Care. This might well be the viewpoint of the Swede I mentioned earlier. In any case it appears to be well worth viewing, I know I am going to return to the interview and watch all of it.
Just now I was watching the second and shorter part of a two part interview with two young emergency doctors in Bakersfield, CA. I need to watch the first and longer segment because what they were saying rings true to me in many ways. I have been very concerned that ultimately our rights as citizens under the Constitution will be attacked. Their comments touched on that but from a medical standpoint. They noted never before have healthy people been quarantined and that If four people out of 100 die, they will be the ones with serious preexisting conditions, and only an infinitesimal number of healthy people will die. They addressed the health risks in staying sequestered indoors for extended periods physically, emotionally, and socially. There is too much for me to recall or recount. Those of you who claim to want to know all opinions in this might well check You Tube. Their names are Drs. Artin Masiki and Dan Erickson who work at Accelerated Urgent Care. This might well be the viewpoint of the Swede I mentioned earlier. In any case it appears to be well worth viewing, I know I am going to return to the interview and watch all of it.
Thanks for this belluno! Good info. This does show we are in this for the long haul!
Funny, someone on my town page posted a link to a video with those doctors.
I won’t mince words here. Those doctors are idiots.
The guy extrapolated the positive results to the entire state of California, completely ignoring that the people getting tested are those with symptoms. He believes 4.6 million in CA have it and calculated a 0.03% mortality rate based on the current number of deaths.
That would mean over 74 million people in New York have Covid. And about 20 million people in NJ have it....
I’m no doctor, but I am fairly comfortable saying that’s not possible as each state does not have that many people living in each.
as far as quarantining the healthy, it’s because we don’t know who is sick. We did not have a way to identify people who were sick. We are getting to a point where we will be able to do so much more quickly and the quarantine will no longer be necessary... but mid March, we did not have a choice or millions of people would have died.
Your hysteria really is a sight to behold. One thing you're forgetting, we may have a therapeutic by then. And yes, it will be mild with or without a therapeutic. That's even if it happens at all, which I'm not convinced of.
Therapeutics won't help at all with the 2nd wave. This will not unfortunately stop until a vaccine is developed in 2021 and distributed by world governments until 2022 or 2023. As stated by a study by Harvard University and Virgina's health head today we will be social distancing for the next 2 years and the state of Virgina will probably be in phase 1 of the White house recommendation not until 2022.
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I will bet you any amount of money all states have entered phase I by 2022. If all states have not reopened by 2021 this country will be a warzone.
Not sure. To be honest it could be possible
NJ might not be in phase 1 until 2022. Please also remember our governor's have very scary powers now. This will happen again once when there is a "climate crisis". Because of the environmental affects this lockdown is having governor's might find it necessary to "Lockdown states" in order to improve a "climate crisis".
There's a lot of conflating going on. Not with you, I'm talking in terms of what's out there because it's a fire hydrant of takes. If you're an alarmist, you'll find what seems to be a credible take. Likewise if you're on the other end. As is the case with anything truly novel.
As a society we're working through something new. Everyone is firing information out there and we need the line to connect it; the full context and/or scientific peer review. We also have people being people with a ton of self-serving types (look at Trump). Plus every country is on a different timeline with different cultural variables impacting outcomes. Sweden could have a different story on their hands each week, I don't know.
IMO, we needed the lockdown to ascertain what the heck this was. The latest antibody testing done in NY and other places is gold because it frames the scale, potency, and manageability of this new pathogen (we also need to hold China accountable as they truly screwed the world on information). You could not scientifically say that a month ago. It was speculation. And, to me, you cannot manage a society with a new virus outbreak on speculation alone. Plus you still don't have a treatment and you will have more deaths in 6 weeks than a bad flu season, so we could not just let it rip. It's potent.
But now let's start getting things moving in a sensible way. We now have a better idea of who is at risk in the worst ways and we have to start moving forward with the rest of the people who cannot live like this indefinitely.
If all states haven't reopened by July 2020, this country will be a war zone. Maybe even June.
Wow because celebrities/sports figure/athletes have not died this will help lift the fog??? Are you kidding me??? What a blind tweet that is. People are now unemployed and fighting to live day by day. Do you think these people care what this person mentioned in this tweet? Also people are suffering immensely in our hospital systems. How can we lift the fog of panic when do many people in this country are dying because of this deadly virus.
At last, try telling that to people that have loved ones unexpectedly to covid. What a dumb dumb tweet.
The American Sheeple look at sports figures, politicians and celebrities (wrongly, yes). But that's the way it is. Once they see that the vast majority of people who pass were in assisted living facilities and/or unhealthy to begin with, they'll rest easier. Governments are using this to increase their power and reduce our freedoms. Why don't you see this?
You should read that person's twitter posts. He has been spreading truth and reality, not fear and panic. In fact, all who post here should check him out.
You should read that person's twitter posts. He has been spreading truth and reality, not fear and panic. In fact, all who post here should check him out.
BREAKING: Dr Birx announced this morning americans will be practicing social distancing for "many, many months to come". It looks like my next prediction is coming true as well. We will be practicing social distancing and wearing masks for the rest of our lives. Non essential businesses will reopen in NJ in 2021.
