HILLARY- Godforbid!
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This alone should disqualify her; and there are numerous examples of H's incompetency, putting herself and her husband(???) above the law always right on the fence of what's legal or, illegal, etc., etc., etc.
I am sick of all of the elites and politicians in D.C.
Let's all send our prayers to all of the families of the policemen in Dallas who lost their lives by simply doing their jobs.
I am sick of all of the elites and politicians in D.C.
Let's all send our prayers to all of the families of the policemen in Dallas who lost their lives by simply doing their jobs.
And you will vote for a billionaire because you think he is not part of the elite??????????
There's no proof that bankrupt, lying buffoon even is a billionaire. He certainly doesn't have the amount of money he says he does (around $10 billion). Just add it to the heap of lies he's already amassed.
Let us not forget that this utter clown is a birther (or at least pretends to be so he can rile up the knuckle draggers on the right). That alone should have disqualified him, never mind the fact that EVERY reporter should begin and end every interview/press conference with questions about that.
Let us not forget that this utter clown is a birther (or at least pretends to be so he can rile up the knuckle draggers on the right). That alone should have disqualified him, never mind the fact that EVERY reporter should begin and end every interview/press conference with questions about that.
They are both liars and will say anything to get elected. Our country is in a revolt right now. I actually believe Bernie won but some of the DNC shenanigans did not allow lots of his voters to get it done. And Trump got in because everyone is tired of the same old thinking and somehow think he is different. If there ever was a time for a good third party candidate to emerge it would be right now but it's probably too late.
Once I stopped doin weed last week, it all became clear to me...
There are no DNC shenanigans. There has been close primary states forever. The rules were not changed just for this election. You have to be a registered Democrat or Republican to vote in the primary. I don't think this is a corrupt system at all. As a matter of fact, open primary systems actually can have horrible political ploys allowed. For example, a republican is running unopposed for a seat. There are two Democrats running in the primary. One democrat is a stronger candidate than the other. It was a common ploy that members of the opposing party (republican in this instance) would then vote in the Democratic primary to elect the weaker candidate to set up the general election.
Yea this is an election system where you don't even have to show ID to vote and where you can with no warning close down a polling station when lots of voters are in line waiting to vote. Happened in multiple places across the country in the Dem primary. In addition there were a huge amount of write in votes for Hillary in some of those same places where the polls were shut down. Coincidence maybe? I also have a bridge to sell you...
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The democratic issue is the super delagate which is patently unfair. Repubs do far more shenanigans to limit minority vote.
We can fix that though. These are fixable issues if folks really wanted to fix them. But I don't think either party really does. Instead they want to manipulate the issues to their advantage.
DNC now up, and it will be interesting to see how the Sanders supporters react to the Wikileaks release of 20,000 DNC emails. Everyone was concerned with riots and disturbances at the RNC, but I think they had 5 total arrests and that was related to a flag burning. Wouldn't be surprised to see a melee in Philly: one, because it's Philly...lol, two the angry Bernie set. Hope not but its setting up that way.
There may be other shenanigans, but I've never understood the resistance to asking people to provide some kind of ID to vote. I need to show my driver's license/passport to board a commercial airliner, or to leave/enter the country by other means. Why is asking someone to do the same, in the name of fairness, overly burdensome?
Or to buy cigarettes, purchase alcohol, open a bank account, the list goes on.................
Perfect storm this week for riots: DWS emails scandal, 100 degree heat in Philly; and Philly folks like to riot for no reason.
Millions of voting aged US citizens do not have a government issued ID.
If that group of people usually voted for republicans, they would not think it is an issue at all, and democrats would be championing voter ID laws.
Voter ID laws are intended to prevent minorities from voting.
You may think they should be able to get an ID.. or whatever.. and I may even agree with most of your opinions but the fact is that there are millions of people who would be denied a voice and I do have a problem with that.
I understand what you are saying. I do not understand how it is OK to shut down numerous polling places in poor neighborhoods which can really inconvenience poor people who depend on mass transportation for travel and on low paying hourly jobs to survive, nor do I understand why the repubs are so hot about the voting fraud issues when voting fraud complaints are so few. But I think we all know why this is happening.
fwiw, I do not need to show ID when I vote (I just sign in), there is almost never more than one or two other voters present, and there is another polling place less than a half mile from the one I use. But they all remain open.
So do those same people never drive, smoke, use alcohol go on planes or anywhere (trains etc) or do anything where they have to show ID? Hard to believe IMO.
Have you ever been to a poor city?
No, those people aren't buying plane tickets anywhere. You don't need ID for trains. The elderly population does not show ID for cigarettes (the teenage population probably doesn't either) or alcohol and there are many who never drive.
Yup I do a lot of outreach with my church and have spent a lot of time in the city (Paterson, Passaic and Newark) with the poorest of the poor. I bet I've spent as much or more time than you now that you have questioned me about it.
So tell me a few years back Dems wanted a US ID for everyone. What was their answer to that if its bad for poor people to get an ID in the city? Again this is a fixable problem. Our politicians just don't want to fix it. If they can do a census they can fix this. Many other countries have handled the problem for all parts of the population.
Well, I was talking about open and closed primaries. But, whether it is the RNC or DNC, they have always had sway and influence towards the "wanted" candidate. However, I have not seen the emails and from what has been reported thus far, it has been overblown that a DNC staffer was looking how to play Sanders' atheism up to discredit him with southern voters. This is not the same as blocking people to vote. But let's see what comes out. Maybe it will turn out that you will be right on this issue.
Absolutely. No excuse for shutting down polling places.
I have to believe that many of the poor/disenfranchised that Merge and you refer to are not already in the "system," in one way, shape or form, whether it be food stamps, SSDI, Medicare/Obamacare, a bus/train pass, welfare, a driver's license, etc. Why is an ID so hard to come by? Hell, that is one place I don't mind my tax dollars being put to work. We have federal subsidies for SMART PHONES, but we can't give everyone a $5 laminated photo ID? Democratic organizations feed people and bus them to the polling places, but fight to the death against identification.
Democrats pander to the poor, inner city people, because they vote Democrat. As Chris Rock says, these people consistently vote that way, yet seldom see their situations improve.
Republicans would love to get a piece of the inner city vote, or at least mitigate the effects of the largely Democratic vote there, so you have the polling place shenanigans. Requiring ID (and, yes, for us in the suburbs, too) makes sure that people vote ONCE, and we don't have the cemetery roll call that we've seen in Chicago for 100 years.
The pandering is not unique to one party. They pander to where they get votes.
voter ID laws are not intended to prevent fraudulent voting. They are meant to prevent a certain group of people from voting. We should all have a problem with that.
Just be honest about what this is. Republicans are hoping that voter ID laws will create another step in the process and that people will be too lazy to vote. Republican voters are more likely to take the extra step.
voter ID laws are not intended to prevent fraudulent voting. They are meant to prevent a certain group of people from voting. We should all have a problem with that.
Just be honest about what this is. Republicans are hoping that voter ID laws will create another step in the process and that people will be too lazy to vote. Republican voters are more likely to take the extra step.
Sorry, that's a load of BS. Suffrage is hugely important in a democracy, and ensuring the fairness of, and access to, polling centers is CRUCIAL. You have to register to vote. Has that been waived, as "an extra step?" If we're really being honest, most liberals outside of the inner cities oppose common sense legislation, but like their counterparts in politics, rarely cross the path of a person of color -- by design.
People drive, illegally, without insurance, registration, and/or a license, all the time. I take the "extra step" of keeping my documentation current. Should it be OK for the folks that don't to continue to drive?
Not true about Republican voters. If someone does not excite them they do not vote - see the Romney campaign where turnout was very low.
I have been voting since the 80's. Not once did someone ask me for my ID. They asked me what District, I lived in, what was my name. They found my name in the registry book and made me sign to see of my signature matched up.
So, how many people on here have been asked to show ID when voting?
This seems 100% correct to me, just common sense and very consistent if you ask me, and I'm not a republicant.
That may be true. Of course, Romney was a crummy candidate.
If the offspring of Jesus, Reagan and Lincoln with the best characteristics of all ran as a dem, 42% of America would disapprove. And if a Rep rep said a nice thing about him, the NRA or some other lobby would sponsor their next opponent on the primary. You will never see a Dem romp like 64 LBJ again.
You can register to vote basically by accident... They include voter registration in everything, and when the elections are coming near there are thousands of volunteers out there to help people register to vote... You think they would be doing that if it wasn't an extra step?
I don't say any of this as the democrats are angels and republicans are evil... If poor minorities voted for republicans, democrats would be fighting for the "common sense legislation" and republicans would be fighting for their right to vote.
Should all divers be forced to show a drivers license to enter the parkway because some of the people driving on the parkway may not have a drivers license? Of course not, and there are probably more instances of people driving without a license than there is voter fraud.
This is a fake issue to make you think the problem is bigger than it is so you support laws which will prevent poor people from voting.
I'm an independent but you can turn this around and say the same exact thing about the Dems. Most of my relatives are Dems (and some of them very active in the party) and they do not look at the candidate they simply pull the D line every time.
