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It's Walz for VP

He excited plenty, as any Democrat VP will do when you have the media in your pocket. Read this article. It's almost the identical script - down to earth, not high profile, hard to dislike, safe, boring, white man. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/hillary-clinton-picks-kaine-for-vp/

Only difference is this guy is a left wing progressive with a record of radical policies in Minnesota.
Wow, listen to this veritable Murderer's Row he beat out last time: "Kaine beat out several other serious contenders for the job, including Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack, Colorado Gov. John Hickenlooper and Labor Secretary Tom Perez." No wonder they were so enthusiastic about Tim Kaine.

Let's take a look at some of Walz's "radical policies."

1. Cannabis legalization



2. Strengthening labor protections



3. Universal school meals



4. Paid/sick leave


5. Gun safety legislation


How radical can these policies be if they have the support - sometimes the overwhelming support - of a majority of Americans?
 
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Wow, listen to this veritable Murderer's Row he beat out last time: "Kaine beat out several other serious contenders for the job, including Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack, Colorado Gov. John Hickenlooper and Labor Secretary Tom Perez." No wonder they were so enthusiastic about Tim Kaine.

Let's take a look at some of Walz's "radical policies."

1. Cannabis legalization



2. Strengthening labor protections



3. Universal school meals



4. Paid/sick leave


5. Gun safety legislation


How radical can these policies be if they have the support - sometimes the overwhelming support - of a majority of Americans?
ugh school meals?? any red blooded american knows you should only care about the child BEFORE they're born. this guy is a left wing wouldnt kook!!
 
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Wow, listen to this veritable Murderer's Row he beat out last time: "Kaine beat out several other serious contenders for the job, including Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack, Colorado Gov. John Hickenlooper and Labor Secretary Tom Perez." No wonder they were so enthusiastic about Tim Kaine.

Let's take a look at some of Walz's "radical policies."

1. Cannabis legalization



2. Strengthening labor protections



3. Universal school meals



4. Paid/sick leave


5. Gun safety legislation


How radical can these policies be if they have the support - sometimes the overwhelming support - of a majority of Americans?
He wants to invest in ladders bigger than any wall. He seems to be against things that will bring gas prices down that will bring the cost of necessities down. The whole country watched as he let his major cities burn down and gave it the okay because of equity and inclusion. What issue that matters in this election is he not radical on? Nobody going to the polls is voting on weed and breakfast. He doesn’t nothing to center the ticket.
 
Far left ticket will beat themselves.Two socialists winning is hard to imagine,but with every network except Fox covering for them and the ticket promising freebies it is possible but unlikely..Already eliminated 2 squad members a good start
 
Far left ticket will beat themselves.Two socialists winning is hard to imagine,but with every network except Fox covering for them and the ticket promising freebies it is possible but unlikely..Already eliminated 2 squad members a good start
Honestly think the dems believe if there's ever a year for a hard push left this is it. Any other republican beats this ticket by 150 electoral votes minimum. There might be just enough Trump haters and 90 days might be short enough for Kamala not to screw it up.
 
Honestly think the dems believe if there's ever a year for a hard push left this is it. Any other republican beats this ticket by 150 electoral votes minimum. There might be just enough Trump haters and 90 days might be short enough for Kamala not to screw it up.
Republicans have only themselves to blame if they lose. Like you said, any ticket they put up would be a landslide.
 
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I admit I don’t know much about Walz. He does seem to be a down to earth guy who relates very well to a crowd. He has some chinks in the armor. I am looking forward to learning more about him.

But I hate the socialist slur people place on Dems when they have no idea what socialism is and have no idea that we in the US have a mixed economy and not a total free did eat dog capitalist economy. So many of these people who cast the socialist slur are those that are happily collecting their social security checks.
 
So many of these people who cast the socialist slur are those that are happily collecting their social security checks.
Anyone you talk to who is cashing a social security check, paid into it. They should be happy collecting. The question is should people be paying into it at all.
 
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Need to hear all candidates address live questions from people in the communities they serve. JD Vance is doing live question and answer sessions. No screaming no insults just the differences in the campaigns.
Hopefully Harris and Walz will do the same live questions from real people not media. No teleprompters, intelligent articulate people can answer from their heart. We all deserved to know who we are voting for.
 
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If Trump has any capacity for strategy he’ll make this a law & order campaign. That’s what won it for him in 2016. The scenes from Minneapolis in 2020 and Walz’s capitulation to the BLM mob would be the perfect juxtaposition.

Is Trump disciplined enough to stick to that line of attack? Probably not.
 
Vouchers are a bad policy idea for several reasons, but chief among them is that they're a black hole for state budgets. Propublica has documented the negative impact of Arizona's school voucher law, which was later used as a model for similar laws in a dozen other states. Shapiro advocating for this in PA not only goes against the position of most Democrats, it's also fiscally irresponsible (if you care about that sort of thing).




I don't believe this. It sounds like he came off as overly ambitious and "showboating" in his interview and Harris had a better connection with Walz. So then Shapiro called after their meeting and took himself out of the running. Which is an attempt to save face when you know you're not getting the gig.



John Fetterman made his reservations about Shapiro known to the Harris team, and once again it was primarily his obsessive focus on his own personal ambitions. Though of course Fetterman has an axe to grind when it comes to Shapiro.



They were going to call any pick she made too far left, who cares. At least they're going have to try harder to dig up dirt on Walz. Shapiro had a bunch of obvious scandals to harp on, including the potential cover-up of a woman's murder when he was the Pennsylvania Attorney General, to his botched handling of a sexual harassment complaint against one of his closest advisors in the governor's office.

Some of the same people saying forcing Biden out was a bad idea are also saying Walz is a bad pick. That should suggest something...
Since when are Democrats concerned about fiscal responsibility? Do you live in NJ?
If you live in NJ, you forgot about Murphy's botched handling of a sexual assault accusation from one of his staff? He was re-elected nonetheless. Menendez had tons of smoke around him last election, cruised past Hugin. Because we have a lot of wingnuts who go down the line for Blue regardless.

Thanks for the laugh on fiscal responsbility.
 
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Anyone you talk to who is cashing a social security check, paid into it. They should be happy collecting. The question is should people be paying into it at all.
People who pay into Social Security are paying for the benefits of the people collecting today. Not your own. It is not a savings account. Most people in retirement rely on that payment and it provides a safety blanket for retirees. An important social benefit for most Americans.

SPK thinks every social program is Marxist including the progressive income tax which was first imposed by Abraham Lincoln

Trump is law and order?? That’s hysterical. He is the exact opposite of law and order.
 
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Since when are Democrats concerned about fiscal responsibility? Do you live in NJ?
If you live in NJ, you forgot about Murphy's botched handling of a sexual assault accusation from one of his staff? He was re-elected nonetheless. Menendez had tons of smoke around him last election, cruised past Hugin. Because we have a lot of wingnuts who go down the line for Blue regardless.

Thanks for the laugh on fiscal responsbility.
Republicans in the modern era have never been about fiscal responsibility, that is a fantasy. All they care about is shredding public services and the social safety net and cutting tax rates that overwhelmingly benefit rich people and corporations.

Doug Ducey and the Republicans in the Arizona legislature push school vouchers through, and guess what? It's a budget albatross. Not very fiscally responsible, was it? But at least they were able to weaken the public school system in the process.

I live in NJ, but please don't assume I like Phil Murphy or Bob Menendez. This isn't Red Team vs. Blue Team.
 
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If Trump has any capacity for strategy he’ll make this a law & order campaign. That’s what won it for him in 2016. The scenes from Minneapolis in 2020 and Walz’s capitulation to the BLM mob would be the perfect juxtaposition.

Is Trump disciplined enough to stick to that line of attack? Probably not.
Trump is a convicted felon.
 
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People who pay into Social Security are paying for the benefits of the people collecting today. Not your own. It is not a savings account. Most people in retirement rely on that payment and it provides a safety blanket for retirees. An important social benefit for most Americans.

SPK thinks every social program is Marxist including the progressive income tax which was first imposed by Abraham Lincoln

Trump is law and order?? That’s hysterical. He is the exact opposite of law and order.
You pay into it today with the expectations of getting in the future. People who pay in more today get more of a benefit than people who pay in less. So while it's not a savings account there is an expectation of you're paying in with the purpose of receiving in the future. What would be the reason of contributing today if people couldn't receive when they get old. My guess is you'd see a real insurrection if that happened 10 times greater than J6 and Minneapolis combined.

The only way social security ends well is if we continue to pay seniors while having current workers stop paying in and getting what they paid in back. Now the government may have to God forbid reduce spending in other areas to accommodate that. Otherwise the program must keep going.
 
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If Trump has any capacity for strategy he’ll make this a law & order campaign. That’s what won it for him in 2016. The scenes from Minneapolis in 2020 and Walz’s capitulation to the BLM mob would be the perfect juxtaposition.

Is Trump disciplined enough to stick to that line of attack? Probably not.
He has NO discipline. As Ralph Kramden used to say in the Honeymooners I have a BIG MOUTH !!!
 
He has NO discipline. As Ralph Kramden used to say in the Honeymooners I have a BIG MOUTH !!!
Actually he's been out of the picture the last week. JD Vance out there talking and answering questions from the press today in Eau Claire, WI while in the same town Kamala and Tampon Tim just read off a script.
 
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What affect does that have on my life?
Aren’t you the one who said Trump should campaign on law and order?? Don’t you care about law and order?
Trump is a criminal. Always has been one. He promised to pardon convicted January 6th insurrectionists who desecrated the Capitol and fought police. You can say what you want about the NY conviction, but he took a tax deduction as a legal expense for the hush money paid to Stormy Daniels while being President of the US. He is a law breaker.
 
Aren’t you the one who said Trump should campaign on law and order?? Don’t you care about law and order?
Trump is a criminal. Always has been one. He promised to pardon convicted January 6th insurrectionists who desecrated the Capitol and fought police. You can say what you want about the NY conviction, but he took a tax deduction as a legal expense for the hush money paid to Stormy Daniels while being President of the US. He is a law breaker.
Doesn't it concern you that a DA and AG took $5,000 from a guy who as you say has always been a criminal?
 
SPK thinks every social program is Marxist including the progressive income tax which was first imposed by Abraham Lincoln
"From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs"

Who said that?

What is a progressive income tax?

Was an income tax even constitutional in 1862?
 



I don't believe this. It sounds like he came off as overly ambitious and "showboating" in his interview and Harris had a better connection with Walz. So then Shapiro called after their meeting and took himself out of the running. Which is an attempt to save face when you know you're not getting the gig.



John Fetterman made his reservations about Shapiro known to the Harris team, and once again it was primarily his obsessive focus on his own personal ambitions. Though of course Fetterman has an axe to grind when it comes to Shapiro.



They were going to call any pick she made too far left, who cares. At least they're going have to try harder to dig up dirt on Walz. Shapiro had a bunch of obvious scandals to harp on, including the potential cover-up of a woman's murder when he was the Pennsylvania Attorney General, to his botched handling of a sexual harassment complaint against one of his closest advisors in the governor's office.

Some of the same people saying forcing Biden out was a bad idea are also saying Walz is a bad pick. That should suggest something...
Shapiro is just simply better and kamala knows that and probably viewed as showboating. hes upstage her. if anyone on this board had to vote for one of the 3 it's be him unanimously.

btw in terms of career, he comes off as the least typical politician willing to extend party lines instead of keep the divide. we would be so lucky to have him as president compared to what we have now.
 
Explain why any Minnesota taxpayer should be paying for Joe Mauer’s kids meals?
huh i didn't realize joe mauer was the only one with kids in minnesota. but i guess we should base it off a .000000001% scenario of one guy who has his kids in private school anyway.
 
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huh i didn't realize joe mauer was the only one with kids in minnesota. but i guess we should base it off a .000000001% scenario of one guy who has his kids in private school anyway.
No there should be income limits like there are with any other common sense policy that's ever been created. This isn't brain surgery. Using taxpayer funds to feed kids of millionaires is a waste of money..
 
Shapiro is just simply better and kamala knows that and probably viewed as showboating. hes upstage her. if anyone on this board had to vote for one of the 3 it's be him unanimously.

btw in terms of career, he comes off as the least typical politician willing to extend party lines instead of keep the divide. we would be so lucky to have him as president compared to what we have now.
Importantly, Shapiro was not the first or second choice of unions, either. Another strike against him.

 
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Wow, listen to this veritable Murderer's Row he beat out last time: "Kaine beat out several other serious contenders for the job, including Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack, Colorado Gov. John Hickenlooper and Labor Secretary Tom Perez." No wonder they were so enthusiastic about Tim Kaine.

Let's take a look at some of Walz's "radical policies."

1. Cannabis legalization



2. Strengthening labor protections



3. Universal school meals



4. Paid/sick leave


5. Gun safety legislation


How radical can these policies be if they have the support - sometimes the overwhelming support - of a majority of Americans?

Walz was a COVID authoritarian - the biggest omission you made, though I'm not surprised. He also supported the torching of Minneapolis and caters to the radical Muslims who populate his state.

Yes, legalizing marijuana is a radical position. Yes, restricting the right to bear arms is indeed a radical position.
 
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What affect does that have on my life?

This is where I'm at. I never thought I'd be at the point where I'd vote for Trump, but here we are. Going to have to. This country simply cannot afford four to eight years of a radically left-wing White House. Would be 10x worse than what we have today, which is pretty bad to begin with.

Trump is a jerk, a felon, and a bad person. But his policies are largely where we need to be as a nation. Have to hold your nose and vote for him if you care about what America always was, and should continue to be.
 
Walz was a COVID authoritarian - the biggest omission you made, though I'm not surprised. He also supported the torching of Minneapolis and caters to the radical Muslims who populate his state.

Yes, legalizing marijuana is a radical position. Yes, restricting the right to bear arms is indeed a radical position.
He supported the torching of Minneapolis, huh? You would've thought this would come up in the oppo research.

These attacks get more ridiculous by the minute. And I'm going to take the results of polling that says the majority of the American public wants something over your assertions, thanks. Especially your claim that legalizing marijuana is a radical position. Are you stuck in the 1980s?
 
He supported the torching of Minneapolis, huh? You would've thought this would come up in the oppo research.

These attacks get more ridiculous by the minute. And I'm going to take the results of polling that says the majority of the American public wants something over your assertions, thanks. Especially your claim that legalizing marijuana is a radical position. Are you stuck in the 1980s?

Marijuana is dangerous, should be illegal. I was born in the 1980s, not stuck anywhere.
 
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This is where I'm at. I never thought I'd be at the point where I'd vote for Trump, but here we are. Going to have to. This country simply cannot afford four to eight years of a radically left-wing White House. Would be 10x worse than what we have today, which is pretty bad to begin with.

Trump is a jerk, a felon, and a bad person. But his policies are largely where we need to be as a nation. Have to hold your nose and vote for him if you care about what America always was, and should continue to be.
You say Trump is a jerk, a felon and a bad person, yet you are voting for him. lol.

You have to vote for Trump if you care what America always was. What kind of thinking is this? SMH
 
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