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The part I didn't agree with was when you said, "Where is the government’s messaging on living a healthy a healthy lifestyle being the best way to beat the virus?"

In my opinion, this is not an accurate statement because that is really not the best way to beat the virus. If everyone in the country decided to eat healthier and exercise more starting on March 1st, we still have 250k+ dead.

If you believe the government should do more now so we are healthier when the next pandemic hits, I am on board.



Absolutely true. That should be a key point in the post mortem analysis after we have the virus under control. It will take years to be able to impact the health of the country overall in a meaningful way.
Totally disagree. If people took immediate action back in March we would have many fewer deaths and we’re not done yet. It’s silly to start the messaging to live healthier after the pandemic is done.
 
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Totally disagree. If people took immediate action back in March we would have many fewer deaths and we’re not done yet. It’s silly to start the messaging to live healthier after the pandemic is done.

If people immediately took action in March and had brunch at the Capital Grill (it was full!!) and gone to cooking classes in NYC the pandemic would be over by now.


As I said earlier, I was with a bunch of physicians earlier this week and we discussed the risks, etc. (a couple of which that we had dinner at The Capital Grill in DC which was full!!!). Common sense balanced with living your life...we make those decisions every day.

It was a cooking class of about 15 and they were holding it. The risk of spreading is similar to the flu. This is not like the plague. And the “spread” right now is not widespread at all.

Everything comes with a risk. Driving on I-78 is risky.

Going out to dinner tonight with my wife...supporting local business.
 

Dropping this article from the Times here. I'm not as confident as the great Dr. Tony Fauci, MD. I don't think we will be close to normal in 3rd or 4th quarter 2021. I think we will either be shut down or 25% capacity at restaurants. I hope I'm wrong but I think I will be right yet again!
 
The great city of Newark is shutting down. The dominoes are now falling for Murphy to shut down the state. Expect a Murphy announcement in a few days. I warned this board back in April of a second shut down. Most posters said that would not happen!

 
The great city of Newark is shutting down. The dominoes are now falling for Murphy to shut down the state. Expect a Murphy announcement in a few days. I warned this board back in April of a second shut down. Most posters said that would not happen!

This dude is a complete bs artist, you said sept would be the time period it is now latter nov heading to december...i want to know what doomsday cult you worship with and is paula white your spiritual leader?
 
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This dude is a complete bs artist, you said sept would be the time period it is now latter nov heading to december...i want to know what doomsday cult you worship with and is paula white your spiritual leader?
I finally had to ignore him, and I’ve never done that with a single person here!
 
I finally had to ignore him, and I’ve never done that with a single person here!

Yep. Did the same a few days ago. I'm prone to extending ridiculous debates and all, but he is just a troll.
 
I finally had to ignore him, and I’ve never done that with a single person here!
Just put him on Ignore as well. No value in his posts and it was becoming like spam. Bye...
 
Lol, I noticed no one engaged and I figured everyone must have ignored.

I don’t agree with many of you and don’t post as much here, but there is good information and the discussion back and forth is balanced on the whole, and noticeably passionate.

But as merge said, he’s just a troll and adds nothing to the discussion. Guess we’ll be able to pick him out at some point when the media gets a hold of someone wandering around in a hazmat suit.
 
Lol, I noticed no one engaged and I figured everyone must have ignored.

I don’t agree with many of you and don’t post as much here, but there is good information and the discussion back and forth is balanced on the whole, and noticeably passionate.

But as merge said, he’s just a troll and adds nothing to the discussion. Guess we’ll be able to pick him out at some point when the media gets a hold of someone wandering around in a hazmat suit.
Agree....for me posters fall into two buckets. Those that have knowledge, a valued opinion, can have a back and forth debate, etc. And the second are those that were put on this earth, purely for my entertainment. The aforementioned poster was neither of those.
 
Shufan1993 is way too much into self-congratulatory posts without a reason. But, he has an opinion. The one opinion that he gives that is all his own is that we will be in and out of shut downs into 2022 and that mask wearing will be mandated for years to come in a way so government can control you. the government controlling us is way crazy conspiratorial talk. Hey, I think he is wrong, but let's see what happens. He has to be going a bit crazy without leaving his house since March. So I am going to cut him some slack.
 
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Shufan1993 is way too much into self-congratulatory posts without a reason. But, he has an opinion. The one opinion that he gives that is all his own is that we will be in and out of shut downs into 2022 and that mask wearing will be mandated for years to come in a way so government can control you. the government controlling us is way crazy conspiratorial talk. Hey, I think he is wrong, but let's see what happens. He has to be going a bit crazy without leaving his house since March. So I am going to cut him some slack.

You are correct! We will see what happens. But the government will never let go of the power they have now. The great Governor of California has set a curfew from 10:00 PM to 5:00 AM for all residents. You think he will just get rid of the curfews and not use curfew for future precedence such as "climate change" shut down . You don't mind the governor telling you when its fine to leave your house? They are preparing us for something bigger down the road!
 
Hello. Expect more articles/tweets from main stream media outlets the next several months like this. "masks are most effective when everyone uses them". The main stream media will be pushing mask wearing and will say "It wasn't really that bad" when the pandemic is over.


 
Many posters on this board said there would not be second wave of the Covid 19 pandemic in New Jersey. I said there would be a second wave just like the Spanish Flu Pandemic of 1918. I am happy that nj.com was telling the public the truth since the spring that the second would be a second wave and it is happening now.

 
Many posters on this board said there would not be second wave of the Covid 19 pandemic in New Jersey. I said there would be a second wave just like the Spanish Flu Pandemic of 1918. I am happy that nj.com was telling the public the truth since the spring that the second would be a second wave and it is happening now.

this virus is nothing like the spanish flu and your reaction is something even worse than what is warranted by the spanish flu. this is the sniffles compared to that.
 
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this virus is nothing like the spanish flu and your reaction is something even worse than what is warranted by the spanish flu. this is the sniffles compared to that.
Yes the spanish flu ranged from 1918 to 1920 with no vaccine and no antibiotics to treat secondary bacterial infections, approx 1/3 the world population contracted it at the time...
 
this virus is nothing like the spanish flu and your reaction is something even worse than what is warranted by the spanish flu. this is the sniffles compared to that.

Please show me the peer reviewed study that you will point to reach this conclusion. Thank you. Just want to see the proof/research to your conclusion. Interested to read it.

It is possible that this pandemic can still be as bad as the Spanish Flu. We don't know what's going to happen in the next couple years. And I think its going to be really bad.
 
Please show me the peer reviewed study that you will point to reach this conclusion. Thank you. Just want to see the proof/research to your conclusion. Interested to read it.

It is possible that this pandemic can still be as bad as the Spanish Flu. We don't know what's going to happen in the next couple years. And I think its going to be really bad.
no, the transmission rate, mortality etc were all much much worse.
 
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Approx world pop 7.7b
Cases as of late sunday 59 mil
Deaths 1.4 mil

Point I am saying is you can't compare the Covid 19 pandemic and the 1918 Spanish Flu Pandemic. The Covid 19 pandemic is far from over. We will be dealing with this pandemic for years.
 
no, the transmission rate, mortality etc were all much much worse.

Ok. Please show me the peer reviewed study that shows me this data. Pretty simple ask one would think if your statement is correct
 
Good Morning. The great Dr. Tony Fauci, MD, says that herd immunity is possible in America IF enough Americans take the vaccine. Unfortunately I do not have that much confidence in the anti vaxxer population of this great country. I am not as confident as Tony and I do not think we will see impact from the vaccine for years because so many people will be hesitant to take it.

Fauci says herd immunity possible if enough Americans take vaccine (msn.com)
 
no, the transmission rate, mortality etc were all much much worse.

Still waiting on the peer reviewed study that confirmed this "fact" you stated. Shouldn't be too hard to find if its true. Thank you!
 
Still waiting on the peer reviewed study that confirmed this "fact" you stated. Shouldn't be too hard to find if its true. Thank you!
Well, Covid is going to have to have 50x's more deaths than the Spanish flu. 50 million people died during the Spanish Flu pandemic. Do you need a peer reviewed study to figure this out? Or you think these numbers are just made up over the past century?
 
Well, Covid is going to have to have 50x's more deaths than the Spanish flu. 50 million people died during the Spanish Flu pandemic. Do you need a peer reviewed study to figure this out? Or you think these numbers are just made up over the past century?

No I don't think they are made up. You think the COVID-19 pandemic will have 50x more deaths than the Spanish Flu?
 
No I don't think they are made up. You think the COVID-19 pandemic will have 50x more deaths than the Spanish Flu?
no, conservative numbers havw spanish flu deaths at 50m. likely more than that. reporting and diagnosing a bit different back then. a third of the earth, 500m had spanish flu. 60m have covid.

Covid has 1.3m deaths. oof. pretty easy to prove my statement. covid is already through its most dangerous stage.
 
No I don’t. No way does CoVid kill 50 million people. It’s not going to be close.
what happened to him? its been a few hours and no response. hes probably frantically looking through peer review journals for something to support the msm's weak attempt to put the two in the same sentence.
 
I keep seeing posts come up on the forum list from “ignored poster”. Since I’ve only ignored one, I know who it is.

Are people engaging that maniac or is he posting to himself now and everyone ignored?
 
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I keep seeing posts come up on the forum list from “ignored poster”. Since I’ve only ignored one, I know who it is.

Are people engaging that maniac or is he posting to himself now and everyone ignored?

Couple more still need to ignore.

Guys, scroll over his name and click ignore. He is just a troll.
 
Not good news from the great Dr. Tony Fauci, MD. He has now said "Post-Covid Syndrome" is a real possibility. Right now there are 20-30% people living with "Post-Covid Syndrome". This could last for years after a person has COVID. This is a very, very scary virus.

There is also now a 28% increase in child Covid-19 cases. This is a very bad statistic because it is very possible children will be transmitting the disease to the elderly at this years thanksgiving table.

This virus is very scary and that is why I will continue to shelter in place. I'm hoping that I can get outside in 2021 with a hazmat suit. When I get outside I will definitely continue to wear a hazmat suit so I do not catch COVID or the flu. But the way its looking I will probably be preparing to stay indoors all of 2021 as well


US coronanvirus: There was a 28% increase in child Covid-19 cases over the last two weeks, the American Academy of Pediatrics says - CNN
 
Good morning. The virus is now running unabated throughout every community in this country. Who would ever thought it would get this bad? A now staggering statistic is showing the the United States number of cases will DOUBLE by January. 20 million cases. I didn't even think it would get this bad. And remember this is still just the very beginning of this virus.

A new model projects Covid-19 cases in the US will nearly double over the next two months
Covid-19 is running unabated across almost every American community, and one model projects it will take the country just under two months to reach a staggering 20 million cases.
www.cnn.com
 
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