+1. And add to that:
Although it’s remarkable with all the ineptitude, that in my lifetime, somehow the Giants have won four Super Bowls.
and im sure you would trade the way its panned out. its all about the championships.
No. No one but you has shown themselves to be an utter fool. Actually, you have at least one compatriot who wants to hire a recently retired Hall of Famer.
I agree with everything you posted accept you use the future tense for #3.
From Parcells to Coughlin, which is a long timeframe, the Giants were considered one of the model franchises, in large part because of those Super Bowls. Not many others can claim to have made 5 and won 4 over a 25-30 year period. Of course there were some down years during that period, the beginning of Parcells and part of the post-Parcells, pre-Fassell era. But it was never "down" for long, and when we made conference title games, we usually prevailed, which cannot be overstated.
Most every coach does. As difficult as the NIL era makes it for college coaches, it is also the ultimate crutch. It can be used consistently as an excuse and you will have people buy it hook-line-and-sinker. Of course it is a relevant factoid, but in most situations we don't know why a player came or left, and whether it is solely about NIL or various other reasons.
Agree Bud Boomer-- the big difference is that Lyons gave Willard a chance and talking to--Willard listened. Unfortunately , Sha has no one that he may listen to--certainly not the AD that in large part is owing to Sha. Hall created problem that it is the "Sha Program" and not the "SETON HALL PROGRAM. "
Yes, agree. (I am a Giants fan BTW). I almost feel Parcells and Coughlin were successful in spite of the ownership. Two guys that could probably stand up and call BS.
Interesting with Coughlin, its been well documented that he needed to change his ways and lighten up his approach, created a leadership council, etc., to find the ultimate success. Might be a lesson well learned.
I agree. He has this season and two more in my opinion. The program needs an alpha PG and a decent 5 that play big minutes. Keep Middleton for sure. Thats where I'd put the big bucks.
I need a life? You’re the one very easily baited into responding to joke posts on a message board.
You're the one online at 3:30am. And things aren't getting worse, they are what they are. Do we need to re-visit this with every loss this season?
Honest question
So these are just joke posts? If these are jokes, they're not very funny. What's the point?
LMFAO, good thing you are no where near our actual Athletic Department.
Yup and transfer portal is worse. The entire system is broken.
It's a very interesting comparison, but the major difference is where the programs were when each started. Willard started with a program that hadn't made it to the tournament in 4 years. Sha took over a program that had been to 5 of the the previous 6 and was over .500 in conference for 7 straight years. Willard took a couple steps back early on in his career, this is not a couple steps back, this a marathon in the wrong direction. I'm not suggesting we need a new coach by any means, but given where each started there's no reason for them to mirror each other.
I would say that given the massive rupture in the sport, there isn't much point in comparing them at all. That is the most salient factor when you consider what each one inherited.
Except, except you’re leaving out the biggest and most damning component which is NIL and paying players. Willard never had to do that.
