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This looks like the first time since the summer where the Rt number has been below 1 for almost every US state. That seems positive considering we are in the winter. Not sure what the lag time is for this, but its also during the time when the most contagious variant came our way.

 
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The spooky new variant.

lol
not spooky, but more contagious. yawns can be contagious too. in any case the vaccines are showing great promise including for the new variant.

just some positive news to remind people.
 
This looks like the first time since the summer where the Rt number has been below 1 for almost every US state. That seems positive considering we are in the winter. Not sure what the lag time is for this, but its also during the time when the most contagious variant came our way.


What a coincidence, why is Rt decreasing now and not a week ago before Biden was sworn in?
Rt is just dem biased.

That's how this works, right?
 
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What a coincidence, why is Rt decreasing now and not a week ago before Biden was sworn in?
Rt is just dem biased.

That's how this works, right?
lmao you had me going at first. lets scrap the politics talk on this. i wanna keep it positive! time to buy season ticket plans boys.
 
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lmao you had me going at first. lets scrap the politics talk on this. i wanna keep it positive! time to buy season ticket plans boys.

I'm ready!

Also planning my vacations now including Disney in December. I'm fairly optimistic.
 
Why wait? Heading to South Florida in February...great rates, tee times, small crowds.

For many reasons, but Disney isn’t fully open yet and 1st week of December is our favorite time to go.
 
shusa I heard that Philly vax rollout is a big mess...any truth to that? Sad if true
huge truth. tho seems like its a mess everywhere. people who dont deserve it are getting booked while those who do cant book.
 
huge truth. tho seems like its a mess everywhere. people who dont deserve it are getting booked while those who do cant book.
Yes I think true

But hospital employees have had zero issues

I heard Philly hires a company run by someone who was in their 20s, but maybe I misheard that

Keep repping the hall in Philly
 
Yes I think true

But hospital employees have had zero issues

I heard Philly hires a company run by someone who was in their 20s, but maybe I misheard that

Keep repping the hall in Philly
I’ll add I’ve heard of no such issues in NJ, CT and Delaware but maybe I’ve not been paying attention....I’ve been paying attention to Philly for business reasons
 
Yes I think true

But hospital employees have had zero issues

I heard Philly hires a company run by someone who was in their 20s, but maybe I misheard that

Keep repping the hall in Philly
if only there was a surplus of qualified people looking for jobs. not sure who runs it my parents had someone help them (under 60) who had a completely different UX on the same site.

i would expect hospital employees to have it good.

seems like there is more hall fans in philly than nyc
 
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if wsj can even admit it, thats even better

 
The RT value is another play on words. Politicians love new words and theories they can use to explain and support their agenda. Of course after hearing the same thing over and over we translate that info into facts.


"But fascination might have turned into unhealthy political and media fixation, say disease experts. R is an imprecise estimate that rests on assumptions, says Jeremy Rossman, a virologist at the University of Kent, UK. It doesn’t capture the current status of an epidemic and can spike up and down when case numbers are low. It is also an average for a population and therefore can hide local variation. Too much attention to it could obscure the importance of other measures, such as trends in numbers of new infections, deaths and hospital admissions, and cohort surveys to see how many people in a population currently have the disease, or have already had it.

“Epidemiologists are quite keen on downplaying R, but the politicians seem to have embraced it with enthusiasm,” says Mark Woolhouse, an infectious-diseases expert at the University of Edinburgh in the United Kingdom, who is a member of a modelling group that advises the British government on the pandemic. “We’re concerned that we’ve created a monster. R does not tell us what we need to know to manage this.”

The drawbacks of an average
An important aspect of Rt is that it represents only an average across a region. This average can miss regional clusters of infection. Conversely, high incidences of infection among a spatially distinct smaller subsection of a population can sway a larger region’s Rt value. For instance, Germany’s national Rt value jumped from just over 1 to 2.88 in late June (later revised down to 2.17) largely because of an outbreak in a meat-processing plant at Gütersloh in North Rhine-Westphalia (see 'Germany's Regional Outbreaks'). The Robert Koch Institute noted that national infections overall were still low, which is why the local outbreak had such an effect on the country’s Rt, which had dropped below 1 again by the end of June. This makes it unlikely that Rt would be used to steer local lockdown policy in Germany, Schaade says. “If the rolling mean of R was at 1.2 for a few weeks, then that would show there was a problem that needed attention, even if case numbers were low.” But in practice, researchers find out about local outbreaks before that because of a reported spike in cases, not because of changes to Rt. Germany has ongoing surveillance and public reporting of transmission levels in 400 counties.
 
wait we are glorifying our progress and good news about covid? i must have been living in opposite world
 
wait we are glorifying our progress and good news about covid? i must have been living in opposite world
We were talking about it being political, the progress is coming and hopefully this will be in the past soon but it isn’t there yet. Yes we are living in opposite worlds. Politics before people.
 
We were talking about it being political, the progress is coming and hopefully this will be in the past soon but it isn’t there yet. Yes we are living in opposite worlds. Politics before people.
Rt might be directional but its the best we can do and a stastic with valid intention. says alot that almost every state declined below 1. add that with the extremely positive results for the vaccine and the fact holiday season is over/spring coming.

was reading back, spanish flu lasted less than a year. way way worse. people mass gatherings by the end of it. and i mean like end of WW2 millions of people gatherings.
 
Spanish Flu was more than a year.
started january 1918 and was essentially over in terms of "dealing with it" by november. few outbreaks into 1919.

philadelphia , as the worst example peaked in eary october but was fully open by end of october (really started in late summer) the biggest issue with overcrowded hospitals was that half of the doctors and workers were over in europe.

clearly a different type of strength during an even more unusual time but you gotta start thinking that if they moved right past we can start doing it too. this pandemic cant be forever
 
For now, probably better to err on the side of caution., but should be good by December I’d think.
as a guy whose never been to disney, whats the deal as an adult? i view it as a place id wear a mask long after this pandemic lol
 
For now, probably better to err on the side of caution., but should be good by December I’d think.

Disney World head said he expects mask wearing at least to the end of 2021. I don't think your maskless prediction summer 2021 is feasible at this point. Governor Murphy said he expects mask wearing for the next couple years.
 
as a guy whose never been to disney, whats the deal as an adult? i view it as a place id wear a mask long after this pandemic lol

We have been going the first week of December and the crowds were not bad at all.
 
makes wayyyy more sense. i know some pretty crazy adults that are way too into disney, sans kids

I once worked with a guy whose wife was completely obsessed with everything Disney. It was creepy.
 
rt.live has gone offline! They now say their data isn't a great way to track spread.

Funny, when Rt was high, everyone was obsessed with that number. Now when it is under 1 in over 40 states, it goes away and isn't "useful" anymore.

Anything to keep the fear and panic going. Anything. People are making TONS of money off this "pandemic" and the profiteers are getting desperate since cases and hospitalizations are plummeting.
 
rt.live has gone offline! They now say their data isn't a great way to track spread.

Funny, when Rt was high, everyone was obsessed with that number. Now when it is under 1 in over 40 states, it goes away and isn't "useful" anymore.

Anything to keep the fear and panic going. Anything. People are making TONS of money off this "pandemic" and the profiteers are getting desperate since cases and hospitalizations are plummeting.

Correct. That's why the variants are in the headlines now.
 
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