So anybody who excuses Biden’s actions by comparing them to Trump over the next 4 years will be weak and embarrassing. Good to know. I’ll bet the country will be filled with weak and embarrassing people.
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Well... Yes, that is correct. I will not judge Biden based on what Trump did.
I will judge him based on the even and the circumstances at the time.
I see you are trying to troll me but I will reply straight up, just to show you I can do it when I choose.
I try very hard not to engage in "whataboutism" here or in the real world. I would never want to excuse Biden's actions by comparing them to Trump. We'll have plenty of time to test that theory.
I try very hard not to engage in "whataboutism" here or in the real world. I would never want to excuse Biden's actions by comparing them to Trump. We'll have plenty of time to test that theory.
Oh yes ok you win no debate necessary we must all have your opinion. Get real
What about the millions of people that think Dems using whataboutism as a way to silence debate which is among the most the anti American thing possible? Whatabout how many people don’t give a shit about your or others’ opinion on whataboutism or whatever bullshit that actually both sides use.
spontaneous - poor word choice
It was mostly on Parler which is all gone now since it was shut down, but here is Michael Flynn retweeting the call.
That blew up on Parler. Lin Wood and Sydney powell were amplifying the message there. People there were running with the idea. There was a lot.
and every single person here is going to agree with that because everyone else is crazy.
Not trolling. I'm couldn't care less if you excused Biden because of Trumps. Question is are you going to spend the countless hours attacking those people the way you did others.
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Just curious. Do you support looting and rioting? Because you and a few others never condoned it. Many on here condoned what happened at the capitol.
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I dont see how anyone with a reasonable mind can sit here and try to make any excuses for Trump or what took place Jan 6th. The same way you can not make excuses for the incompetent mayors that allowed packs of minorities to loot and burn our cities and towns for fear of being labeled racists. I'm not interested in a government run by incompetent assholes, but apparently some of you are because you defend everything a dem or Republican does because that's the party you choose to support. We need to be better. Condone all the bullshit we've seen from losers of all colors and creeds.
It was mostly on Parler which is all gone now since it was shut down, but here is Michael Flynn retweeting the call.
That blew up on Parler. Lin Wood and Sydney powell were amplifying the message there. People there were running with the idea. There was a lot.
Interesting. I had not seen this before. The irony of not "following the Constitution." Lol, Congress was following the Constitution in certifying the vote!
Certainly looks like that's what you're saying. Not good.
I condemn the looting and rioting that took place at any of the George Floyd and related protests over the last several months. They put themselves, the police, and innocent (non-violent protestors) by-standers at risk while destroying public and private property.
I have a couple old friends that got caught up in the Qanon stuff. That's really why I was following it. They were convinced Trump would declare martial law and the dems would be tried for treason and sent to Gitmo. Easy to just brush off as a few crazy kooks, but apparently a few crazy kooks from every city meeting in one spot can get a little dangerous.
What the hell are you talking about? I gave you facts not opinion. You want to have an opinion that some Democratic mayor incited the rioting and looting over the summer? Great. show the speech, the tweet that inspired or incited it.. You are using things that are not the same to argue to justify Trump. You equate what Trump did with the riots and the looting over the summer. Now what is the same is thet the rioting was violent and wrong. What is is different is the motivation of why there was violence and whether politicians incited and provoked the violence. That is different. Most people were not condoning the riots and looting over the summer. A few idiotic mayors handled the rioting poorly and were completely wrong. But if you can't see the difference between that and what Trump did, I don't know what to tell you. This isn't some subtle difference here.
Rep. Pressley calls for ‘unrest in the streets’ over Trump-backing GOP members
There should be “unrest in the streets” over President Trump and his political allies turning a “deaf ear” to Americans’ concerns, including those about the “dismantlingR…
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I'm sure she didn't start the violence but she definitely gave the okay to continue.
There can be a difference though in not condoning what he said/condemning what he said while at the same time saying this is not "incitement of insurrection" and impeachable.
I don't know man, did you see the clip of the guy on the bullhorn reading Trump's tweet as people are breaking into the capital?
Tweeting that about the VP, as people are breaking into the capital should be impeachable on its own.
i mean, at what point does it seem youre purposefully trying to ignore your common sense and critical thinking.
even without the legitimate proof, what do you think those people were doing? what did officers die over? what did those people breaking in 15 ft of mike pence with a noose want? it was just some misunderstood coordinated tea party?
youre def a good dude but you gotta understand how being aggressively dismissal of this makes you come off as?
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I think shu09 might be accounting for how dumb many Americans, and human beings in general, really are. Think of the average intelligence, now realize half of the country is actually dumber than that level. Its scary.
When I saw it happening it seemed like a poorly coordinated tea party. They definitely wanted to make their views known to the politicians in the chamber who were certifying the vote. There was never a chance that the government could have been overthrown though.
Merge's latest post though makes me think it was likely more coordinated than it appeared at the time.
Merge's latest post though makes me think it was likely more coordinated than it appeared at the time.
Very dumb
But not dumb enough to know that the mail in stuff etc was an orchestrated plan to beat trump (job well done, I say)
But yes there are thousands of dumb people that thought it was a good idea to do the horrible things that were done at the capital
and hundreds of thousands more dumb People that want a scalp for that day, even though it will hurt their position in the long run
Dems will not do well in 2022 IMO
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Was it right to make mail in voting universal? I dont think so.
But there was no proof the actual vote count was incorrect.
I do think we need to return to the voting rules.
well in this case he isnt accounting for it enough. americans are dumb and absolutely believe they were there to overthrow the govt, possibly and literally inflict harm. who cares how dumb they are... their intentions were the same.
They've completely lost the plot.
Anybody who still wants to play whataboutism with an FING PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES who
- waged a pernicious—and highly effective!—disinformation campaign targeting American citizens,
- to undermine their confidence in the very underpinnings of our democracy, elections, and union,
- with the goal of illegitimately holding onto power no matter the cost (to others!),
- that directly prompted a violent insurrection by his followers at the Capitol to overturn the results of our national election,
- which only by merciful good fortune did not result in globally live-streamed assassinations-by-mob of members of the executive and legislative branches (and DID result in the deaths and maimings of others, including police officers)
This isn't a question of a principled difference of reasoned views regarding a fuzzy, grey area topic. This is a question of when and where did you lose your everloving mind, moral compass, and intellectual integrity, and if you retrace your steps do you think you can retrieve any of them?
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So anyone that disagrees with you is unworthy of engaging...sure...lol.
Talk about missing the plot.
Sure, that's what you do. That's why you have me on ignore....lol.
When a line is crossed, yes, that is true.
Even if you want to excuse all of the rhetoric that lead up to January 6th, Let's walk through this.
2:11 pm - Rioters break into the capital.
2:13 pm - Senate calls recess
2:15 pm - Time of that viral video with the rioters chasing the cop up the stairs.
2:24 pm - Trump tweets: “Mike Pence didn’t have the courage to do what should have been done to protect our Country and our Constitution, giving States a chance to certify a corrected set of facts, not the fraudulent or inaccurate ones which they were asked to previously certify. USA demands the truth!”
If someone feels the need to excuse or downplay what Trump did in that moment, then no, it's probably not worth discussing this with that person.
Nope, not anyone. Just anyone who fits the bonkers profile I laid about above. Them? 100%. Good faith and even the shadow of intellectual consistency or integrity have completely checked out, if they had ever checked in in the first place.
Which reminds me: I've here slipped with my very first next step! Old habits die old, I suppose. I'll try to do better moving forward.
This post is easily the first ever Too Funny Unhinged The-Sky-Is-Falling Rant award winner.
You are missing the point (or plot as it's called now). There is a difference in condoning (which I don't) and condemning (which I do) the actions, having an adult discussion as to whether his words and actions rises to the level Trump being responsible for inciting an insurrection. I don't see many or anyone downplaying or excusing his actions.
Make your point without all the silly rants and adjectives. Too funny.
I'm not litigating the case. I am talking any reasonable person should be able to recognize how wrong it was for him to tweet that in that moment.
It shows Trump’s intent of his speech was to indeed incite the riot. If Trump did not intend his speech to incite a riot and storm the Capitol, he would have called to a stop of it immediately. Instead, he knew it was happening and further poured gasoline on the fire he started with that Tweet. Then afterwards, he did nothing. He didn’t call the National Guard he did nothing to protect the Congress. That shows exactly his intent with that speech. Thai is why it’s important. You must look at all of his actions as a whole - the totality of the circumstances.
