So where is the line drawn? That's important. If we get to a point where people just consider someone crossing the line, eventually dialogue won't happen and when we don't talk about our differences of opinions even more violence will occur.
Too Funny 02/10/21 Edition
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While I get your point... I don't really think what Trump did is a close call.
An angry mob storing the capital, after Trump says "Because if Mike Pence does the right thing, we win the election. All he has to do, all this is, this is from the number one, or certainly one of the top, Constitutional lawyers in our country. He has the absolute right to do it. "
Then they get into the capital and Trump tweets to blames Pence that he didn't do the right thing?
So extraordinarily dangerous in that moment.
I guess you missed the part that the FBI has determined that the people who attacked the Congress planned it days and weeks prior to Trump's rally.
I guess you missed the part that the attack started an hour before Trump's rally.
Again where do we draw the line? Forget aruging whether this is right or wrong. Let's say this isn't even a close call and it's far over the line. Where is the line? Knowing when we should and should not have conversations on topics is pretty important as an American. At least I think so. There are plenty of examples to pick from the last couple decades, but that line seems to be rather significant. Or do people get to pick and choose where they want the line to be depending on the situation.
And for the record I think if you go back to the debates when Trump told the proud boys to stand down he basically showed he has the power to control some radical people. I haven't seen that brought up. While his words on January 6th didn't incite an insurrection, he's definitely not completely innocent here. Now there are plenty of politicians whose words have done very similar. But this is about Trump. And if Trump loses, there's now precedent to against the others.
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Patten of behavior from Trump and his surrogates leading up to that day is also part of the story though.
So Trump then delivers that speech to a mob of people that he knows will attack the Capitol. He does nothing to quell it. He just pours gasoline on the fire. You think the President’s security does not know of what QAnon is saying in the chat rooms concerning that rally? The President was fully aware of everything that was happening. His behavior after the riot startertes is evidence that he not only incited the riot but he also wanted that to occur.
its amazing the mental hoops people are going through to try and hide theyre not closet trumpers and subconciously bad people. theres one, and only one take here.
I guess you missed the part where he told his supporters to be peaceful.
I guess you missed the part when we used the term fight in reference to representatives in Congress should be fighting for their interest and if they don't do that that they should be voted out using the electoral process.
I guess you missed the entire speech yet you're judging it.
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No, just the ones that would still vote for him in spite of his actions after November.
I would not vote for him assuming Nikki Haley or Tim Scott or some other legit candidate runs....BUT, your message is a perfect example of Dems’ divisive bullshit
Nobody I know would vote for him after what he did since November. But I'd like to hear from the poster who made the statement.
Im sure he will chime in, but if we had to do the election over tomorrow. Trump vs Biden, there are people in This thread that would still vote for Trump.
I would vote for him depending who he runs against. I’ll take the maniac who has moderate job friendly policies over the calm guy whose policies are dangerous. Heck if there’s truth that men will be allowed to play women’s sports I may vote against that.
Fair enough. I'm not one of them. I don't think kniespolice is either.
no i think the people here who are STILL trying to downplay, deflect, dismiss are showing to be bad people. people like knies are real, the rest are strong in denial.
trump voters are fine, hell most can be considered trump voters by default of not wanting biden. i wasnt fully sure leading up to it.
but the cult is real and its being exposed now that hes out. people are dying on that hill.
It's certainly a cult of personality. There's no reason to be a supporter of him at this point. He let a lot of people down.
Crazy to think people who have family who benefit from the pipeline would vote for Trump.
Anti left from me. Was a dem for way too many years now they’re not Dems, they are borderline socialists.
thats the same as saying all right is trumpers.
the moderates need to take the country back. its always ying and yang, answer somehwer in the middle at all times
Pirata go and bury your head in the sand if you want to. I described what I think is plainly obvious. I described how his actions or better described as inaction after the riot is evidence of his intent that he wanted the riot to happen.
so if we take your argument to it’s logical conclusion that all Trump wanted was a peaceful demonstration, then didn’t he abdicated his responsibility of protecting the Capitol and the members of Congress by not calling on the National Guard or calling to a stop of the rioting? Surely this would be considered an epic failureto allow the members of Congress to be threatened with death and not do a thing about it. To allow this rioting to continue to put police officers lives in jeopardy as wholly irresponsible and be considered a dereliction of duties to be worthy of an impeachment and conviction?
police officers died. not only put in jeopardy, they were KILLED. dont debate with him. true colors are shining. he stands with all the bad things trump supporters are accused of being, thats why hes defending. theres no sugarcoaring this situation.
Cray cray.
Like I said, unworthy of taking seriously or engaging at all. Definition of a lost cause. Plot = lost.
Sorry but there weren’t under Trump. He viewed the Justice department as his personal lawyers. And he has got the congressional Republicans so scared of him they not only abdicate responsibility but solemnly fall in line.
I am used to “normal” political garbage, but this and the past 4 years, have been anything but normal. Trump has convinced a large group of people that he controls their destiny... and the puppets are doing their part, falling in line.
I am seriously worried about the future of this country. Way top divided... we always had different views (understandable as I would tell my kids... you have to see the rest of the country before you judge...NJ is NOT indicative of the country, so understandable, and I’ll add welcome that other states and people have their own views) but Trump has taken this to a dangerous level. Siding with racist groups, encouraging lies and fraud, those people are now looking for a country that represents their views.
He is far more dangerous than I think most people think.
All I know is, it’s good to know I can basically tell someone to kill someone else, but so long as I don’t do the deed, I can claim innocence based on free speech.
Finally...I have something to thank Trump for!!
Please... I hope readers understand the sarcasm.
Trump was agitating this action LONG before January 6. He cited fraud on the election... many months before the election actually happened.
He’sa narcissist. He set himself up in a “no lose” situation...or so he thought.
Wow there’s a spin job if I ever read one. But I believe the Clintons have been doing that stuff for years.
Are you saying that you are one of these people who believe the the Clinton’s have killed multiple people? If so, You have showed your true colors as a conspiracy nut job. Do you follow QAnon too?
You just believe people around them are cursed and die? Not even a sense of skepticism.
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Nope, I held my nose and voted for Trump in November. I almost didnt vote. I immediately regretted it when I saw how he started behaving, just a complete loser. I really hope the Republicans get their act together, they've got radicals worse than loony tune AOC
