Too Funny 02/10/21 Edition

[anon_ezos2e9wn1ob0]

Sorry but there weren’t under Trump. He viewed the Justice department as his personal lawyers. And he has got the congressional Republicans so scared of him they not only abdicate responsibility but solemnly fall in line.

I am used to “normal” political garbage, but this and the past 4 years, have been anything but normal. Trump has convinced a large group of people that he controls their destiny... and the puppets are doing their part, falling in line.

I am seriously worried about the future of this country. Way top divided... we always had different views (understandable as I would tell my kids... you have to see the rest of the country before you judge...NJ is NOT indicative of the country, so understandable, and I’ll add welcome that other states and people have their own views) but Trump has taken this to a dangerous level. Siding with racist groups, encouraging lies and fraud, those people are now looking for a country that represents their views.

He is far more dangerous than I think most people think.

This is well put. There are alot of people who've been forgotten by this country economically. NJ is a little bubble, but I have been to many places in my previous employment where people struggle daily. I voted for Trump on the hope he could bring manufacturing back to those much needed towns scattered across the country. Unfortunately he and his family took advantage of desperate people and convinced large portions of them that Trump is a god. It's a scary situation. The far left and far right have been radicalized.

I also find the majority of the people who still believe in Trump get their news from facebook, fwiw.

 

[cernjSHU]

This is

You just believe people around them are cursed and die? Not even a sense of skepticism.

Ridiculous. You have to be kidding me. The Clintons could not get Hillary elected but were able to cover up being one of the biggest serial killers In The history of the US? Ok sure!
Let’s see how far this conspiracy goes with you. Do you think 9/11 was was done by the government? You enjoyed “Loose Change”?

 

[SHUHoopsFan]

This is

Ridiculous. You have to be kidding me. The Clintons could not get Hillary elected but were able to cover up being one of the biggest serial killers In The history of the US? Ok sure!
Let’s see how far this conspiracy goes with you. Do you think 9/11 was was done by the government? You enjoyed “Loose Change”?

You believe Epstein just hung himself even though bones were broken that would have never been broken by hanging oneself?

 

[cernjSHU]

You believe Epstein just hung himself even though bones were broken that would have never been broken by hanging oneself?

I didn’t know you were a medical examiner. But, as someone who has dealt with medical examiners, you can certainly break your hyoid bone by hanging yourself especailly with older people. Epstein was 66 yrs old. It is another ridiculous conspiracy theory with people have little to no experience in these matters.
Btw, before you cite Dr Baden to me. Baden over the past 10 to 20 years has made himself a joke. We had a case in our office in which he was crucified on cross because he become a paid whore. Similar, to Giuliani.

 

[SHUHoopsFan]

I didn’t know you were a medical examiner. But, as someone who has dealt with medical examiners, you can certainly break your hyoid bone by hanging yourself especailly with older people. Epstein was 66 yrs old. It is another ridiculous conspiracy theory with people have little to no experience in these matters.
Btw, before you cite Dr Baden to me. Baden over the past 10 to 20 years has made himself a joke. We had a case in our office in which he was crucified on cross because he bacante a paid whore. Similar, to Giuliani.

Not a medical examiner but one of my good friends from HS is a forensic doctor with about 15 years experience. I’ll take his word that it happens but it’s really unlikely.

 

[cernjSHU]

Not a medical examiner but one of my good friends from HS is a forensic doctor with about 15 years experience. I’ll take his word that it happens but it’s really unlikely.

It’s unlikely to be beaten with pocket Aces in poker but it happens and is not a remarkable occurrence.

 

[shu09]

Trump was agitating this action LONG before January 6. He cited fraud on the election... many months before the election actually happened.

He’sa narcissist. He set himself up in a “no lose” situation...or so he thought.

This you are correct about.

 

[SHUSA]

Trump was agitating this action LONG before January 6. He cited fraud on the election... many months before the election actually happened.

He’sa narcissist. He set himself up in a “no lose” situation...or so he thought.

haha he actually cited fraud in both elections, unless he won then there was no fraud.

 

[Hallsome]

Nobody I know would vote for him after what he did since November. But I'd like to hear from the poster who made the statement.

This is true. He became unhinged. Can’t vote for him again but could vote for someone with his middle if the road policies.

But people here who hate Trump respectfully should realize something that case to light for me around his second year in office having talked to sensible, kind, successful (not $) people who voted for Trump.....

BEFORE he even took office he was treated horribly by MSM, celebrities and many true conservatives. Nobody ever challenged his policies which were VERY middle of the road unlike who the dems roll out, AOC and squad, Chuck, Nancy, all of whom cater to the same extremely progressive crap MANY here are not in favor of.

So, of about half the country who voted for Trump (because the option was him or HRC after Dems plotted to beat Bernie), they heard 5 years of unprecedented attacks on him and in the process they were literally saying you, voter, are a bad person if you voted for Trump. You are racist (even though trump is not because frankly he’s too selfish to be; either you can help him or you can’t, not much different than any other pol, however); you are dumb; you are xenophobic; you are....

Nobody cared to discuss the substance of his policies. It was the Russia/DOJ stuff and if you do debate that you get served with whataboutism; can’t talk about how the left is handled the virus, it’s all Donald’s fault; the list goes on and on and on.

there are a lot of trump voters who are angry about about having to choose between Trump and Joe Biden. 99.9% of them would never go to the Capitol and NEVER interpreted his words and tweets as we need to start an insurrection.

Rather, the vast majority that I have heard from think that the BLM protests (where’d they go? Racism solved? NO!) and mail in vote/corona fear/big tech were successfully and perhaps smartly used by Dems to beat trump, after Stormy, Billy Bush, Russia, Ukraine, Jared Kushner, etc failed.

Im not saying I agree with all of this. What I’m saying is a lot of people are pissed that even though they sat in relative silence disagreeing with Obama, they just took in the chin 5 years of personal attacks. Shit, this stuff broke up families!!!!! That’s unprecedented

 

[SHUHoopsFan]

This is true. He became unhinged. Can’t vote for him again but could vote for someone with his middle if the road policies.

To be fair, he was always unhinged. The problem I have with this is, no matter who the democrats run next cycle you can be certain you wouldn't vote for Trump? I always vote democrat or republican. I can't vote third party. I see no point of it. To me it's like betting on Seton Hall to win the RU vs Duke game. Despite disliking both schools, one of them is still going to win the game. I want my vote to make a difference not just point out the fact I'm not for either candidate. I'll vote the lesser evil, which by next election there could be more socialistic principles on the agenda and maybe more men in women sports. Who knows?

 

[Pirata]

I don't agree with everything he wrote but I respect his decision. He presents a reasonable argument.

Toomey Statement on Conclusion of Impeachment Trial | U.S. Senator Pat Toomey of Pennsylvania

Washington, D.C. – U.S. Senator Pat Toomey (R-Pa.) issued the following statement after he and...

www.toomey.senate.gov

 

[anon_ezos2e9wn1ob0]

I don't agree with everything he wrote but I respect his decision. He presents a reasonable argument.

Toomey Statement on Conclusion of Impeachment Trial | U.S. Senator Pat Toomey of Pennsylvania

Washington, D.C. – U.S. Senator Pat Toomey (R-Pa.) issued the following statement after he and...

www.toomey.senate.gov

Well stated and I agree with it all.

 

[SHUSA]

Well stated and I agree with it all.

dont really understand what someone would disagree with in that statement.

 

[anon_ezos2e9wn1ob0]

dont really understand what someone would disagree with in that statement.

Maybe the defund the police fans. I see Minneapolis is now refunding the police amid a big spike in crime. Who couldn't of predicted that haha.

 

[SHUSA]

Maybe the defund the police fans. I see Minneapolis is now refunding the police amid a big spike in crime. Who couldn't of predicted that haha.

i understand WHO i just dont understand what particular part of that statement they could disagree with.

yea the defund thing was always stupid,

 

[cernjSHU]

Maybe the defund the police fans. I see Minneapolis is now refunding the police amid a big spike in crime. Who couldn't of predicted that haha.

Defunding the police movement is perhaps one of the most stupid ideas ever. Good thing it never really went far As the adults in the room stopped it in their tracks.

 

[HALL85]

https://blacklivesmatter.com/defundthepolice/

 

[anon_ezos2e9wn1ob0]

https://blacklivesmatter.com/defundthepolice/

No adults at BLM, just infantile losers. It is amazing, actually disgraceful, the Big East put their logo on jerseys.

 

[anon_ezos2e9wn1ob0]

Defunding the police movement is perhaps one of the most stupid ideas ever. Good thing it never really went far As the adults in the room stopped it in their tracks.

Does the fact BLM promotes that crap effect your view of the organization?

 

[Hallsome]

Does the fact BLM promotes that crap effect your view of the organization?

Might be stupid but was smart enough to contribute to getting the orange guy out of office.

 

[anon_ezos2e9wn1ob0]

Might be stupid but was smart enough to contribute to getting the orange guy out of office.

If your head is up your ass, which I guess most Americans are. BLM is setting race relations back, not forward, which is most likely their intent as they paint any caucasian as an evil person.

You used a racist organization to paint a guy as racist. Makes sense.

 

[Hallsome]

If your head is up your ass, which I guess most Americans are. BLM is setting race relations back, not forward, which is most likely their intent as they paint any caucasian as an evil person.

You used a racist organization to paint a guy as racist. Makes sense.

It’s sad. BLM takes away from the crap that needs to change; we need to have serious discussion as to how we stop unnecessary force and protect our officers.

 

[anon_ezos2e9wn1ob0]

It’s sad. BLM takes away from the crap that needs to change; we need to have serious discussion as to how we stop unnecessary force and protect our officers.

Agreed. There are so many good people in black communities that are hurt by the BLm movement. There are also many good people in white communities that have been hurt by the trumpism movement, losing family and friends to radicalization.

 

[HALL85]

Agreed. There are so many good people in black communities that are hurt by the BLm movement. There are also many good people in white communities that have been hurt by the trumpism movement, losing family and friends to radicalization.

Yet there are large numbers in each of those communities that are afraid or choose not to speak out against BLM or Trump...why? Being cancelled by their own?

 

[cernjSHU]

Does the fact BLM promotes that crap effect your view of the organization?

I am not someone who looks at BLM as an organization. I don’t pay attention to the organization. I think people look at BLM as two different things and others look at it as one. One is the slogan BLM and to end police brutality and sensible reforms. The second is the organization which is different. The organizers of BLM are people who stumbled into a great slogan.
So clearly I don’t agree with defending the police.

 

[SHUHoopsFan]

Defunding the police movement is perhaps one of the most stupid ideas ever. Good thing it never really went far As the adults in the room stopped it in their tracks.

Just my opinion, it took the adults way too long to show up to put out the fire. The movement caught on strong in May and June and after the election it was still on the table with some Democratic members saying if we run on socialism and defund police, dems will be destroyed in 2022

 

[HALL85]

I am not someone who looks at BLM as an organization. I don’t pay attention to the organization. I think people look at BLM as two different things and others look at it as one. One is the slogan BLM and to end police brutality and sensible reforms. The second is the organization which is different. The organizers of BLM are people who stumbled into a great slogan.
So clearly I don’t agree with defending the police.

Most would agree that the BLM movement is very different from BLM the organization, but if I was in a well-intentioned movement where an organization co-opted my name and espoused stupid or dangerous things that did not support our mission, wouldn't you take action? Why did political or other leaders that supported the movement stay silent?

 

[SHUHoopsFan]

Most would agree that the BLM movement is very different from BLM the organization, but if I was in a well-intentioned movement where an organization co-opted my name and espoused stupid or dangerous things that did not support our mission, wouldn't you take action? Why did political or other leaders that supported the movement stay silent?

The system screws people based on income not color. All the loopholes in the legal and financial rules favor the rich, not the poor no matter which color you are. If you can hire a big time lawyer you're in good shape. The movement and the organization are misguided when it comes to getting after the core problem. The 3 words themselves black lives matter is true. But as far as I'm corcerned pick any color put it before lives matter and I'll say it's true.

 

[anon_ezos2e9wn1ob0]

The system screws people based on income not color. All the loopholes in the legal and financial rules favor the rich, not the poor no matter which color you are. If you can hire a big time lawyer you're in good shape. The movement and the organization are misguided when it comes to getting after the core problem. The 3 words themselves black lives matter is true. But as far as I'm corcerned pick any color put it before lives matter and I'll say it's true.

This hits home for me today. I was able to book a vaccine appointment for my father. I am very happy about this, but couldn't help but think of all the poor who don't have computer access to book the appointment or have transportation to get there. Who is looking out for them?

It's not a race issue it's a class/access issue.

 

[Hallsome]

Just my opinion, it took the adults way too long to show up to put out the fire. The movement caught on strong in May and June and after the election it was still on the table with some Democratic members saying if we run on socialism and defund police, dems will be destroyed in 2022

It was a 6 month thing to win election

Most would agree that the BLM movement is very different from BLM the organization, but if I was in a well-intentioned movement where an organization co-opted my name and espoused stupid or dangerous things that did not support our mission, wouldn't you take action? Why did political or other leaders that supported the movement stay silent?

See above

it’s 98% income issues

there’s a problem in inner city’s when it comes to policing but I don’t think it’s race driven, at all.

 

[cernjSHU]

Just my opinion, it took the adults way too long to show up to put out the fire. The movement caught on strong in May and June and after the election it was still on the table with some Democratic members saying if we run on socialism and defund police, dems will be destroyed in 2022

The adult is the head of the party, Joe Biden. He was never for defunding the police. This was a fringe movement at the extreme of the Democratic Party that never got anywhere although it was a loud voice.

The system screws people based on income not color. All the loopholes in the legal and financial rules favor the rich, not the poor no matter which color you are. If you can hire a big time lawyer you're in good shape. The movement and the organization are misguided when it comes to getting after the core problem. The 3 words themselves black lives matter is true. But as far as I'm corcerned pick any color put it before lives matter and I'll say it's true.

While you are right about income levels do matter in society and in the criminal justice systmem, there is no doubt that race is an issue. You may not really see systematic rascism is real, but it is. I am not sure it is as great as some activists say, but it does exist. For example, the Federal drug sentencing laws crack and cocaine are not treated the same. Crack will be punished far more harshly like at one point 100 times more harshly and now like 5 times more harshly. This clearly affected black communities where crack was popular as opposed to the white communities who used cocaine.

The term Black Lives Matter stems from the amount of times in which black people died at the hands of police without repercussions. Now I can debate on whether the number of times that were complained about was actually worthy of protestations. Of course all lives matter, but in the black community, there is a perception and some of it valid that black lives at the hands of police are valued less than white. I don't think there has ever been an accusation that police do not value white lives.

 

[Hallsome]

The adult is the head of the party, Joe Biden. He was never for defunding the police. This was a fringe movement at the extreme of the Democratic Party that never got anywhere although it was a loud voice.

While you are right about income levels do matter in society and in the criminal justice systmem, there is no doubt that race is an issue. You may not really see systematic rascism is real, but it is. I am not sure it is as great as some activists say, but it does exist. For example, the Federal drug sentencing laws crack and cocaine are not treated the same. Crack will be punished far more harshly like at one point 100 times more harshly and now like 5 times more harshly. This clearly affected black communities where crack was popular as opposed to the white communities who used cocaine.

The term Black Lives Matter stems from the amount of times in which black people died at the hands of police without repercussions. Now I can debate on whether the number of times that were complained about was actually worthy of protestations. Of course all lives matter, but in the black community, there is a perception and some of it valid that black lives at the hands of police are valued less than white. I don't think there has ever been an accusation that police do not value white lives.

There’s always been an accusation by many that cops are not good people. Take a predominately white town where cops pull over teenagers more often than adults. Or same town that pulls over a black. Or the anti liberal cop who pulled over Bruce....

not saying anything equates to what you’re saying. Not at all. but the systemic racism thing is way out of hand, and it’s setting us back. seriously, where have all the demonstrations gone?

Love the people who call out the problem or alleged problem, never a solution. stop sending in cops who are not comfortable with inner city to police the inner city. They’re not familiar with the people they are there to protect and they go from 0 to 100 too quickly

no shit that the cheaper drug hit the poorer areas harder. why is meth big and where? drug dealers saw $$ in crack. those same drug dealers hit the NYC clubs to sell to people with $$, regardless of race. law enforcement reacted accordingly. it’s not racism that you find more crack use in a one block area in an inner city than you would in a rural area and it’s not uncommon for their to be drug busts at nightclubs

 

[SHUHoopsFan]

While you are right about income levels do matter in society and in the criminal justice systmem, there is no doubt that race is an issue. You may not really see systematic rascism is real, but it is. I am not sure it is as great as some activists say, but it does exist. For example, the Federal drug sentencing laws crack and cocaine are not treated the same. Crack will be punished far more harshly like at one point 100 times more harshly and now like 5 times more harshly. This clearly affected black communities where crack was popular as opposed to the white communities who used cocaine.

The term Black Lives Matter stems from the amount of times in which black people died at the hands of police without repercussions. Now I can debate on whether the number of times that were complained about was actually worthy of protestations. Of course all lives matter, but in the black community, there is a perception and some of it valid that black lives at the hands of police are valued less than white. I don't think there has ever been an accusation that police do not value white lives.

Crack has nothing to do with the cops. The politicians created the laws, the cops job is to make sure the laws are being followed. Every piece of information I've seen shows that white people are more likely to die at the hands of cops than black people. What I've never seen is anything on the consequences the police face. I would be intrigued to see that. The problem is white man dies at hands of cops doesn't make the news. Perception is based on what we see. If we don't show the headline that white man dies at the hands of cop, did it really happen in a lot of people's world? That has a major impact on perception.

 

[cernjSHU]

Crack has nothing to do with the cops. The politicians created the laws, the cops job is to make sure the laws are being followed. Every piece of information I've seen shows that white people are more likely to die at the hands of cops than black people. What I've never seen is anything on the consequences the police face. I would be intrigued to see that. The problem is white man dies at hands of cops doesn't make the news. Perception is based on what we see. If we don't show the headline that white man dies at the hands of cop, did it really happen in a lot of people's world? That has a major impact on perception.

Im sorry you are just being naive here. This is the criminal justice system and the police are the enforcement arm of that system. Do you think police are in the suburbs busting up open air drug markets. No. The police were around in the inner cities though. Giuliani instituted stop and frisk in NYC. Did the happen in Short Hills, NJ or Westchester? I don't understand the resistance in admitting that there has been a difference. Are white people being followed by security in a store like black people? No. Don't you know of towns in which black people are pulled over a lot more than white? IF you don't think these things exist then you have your head in the sand.

 

[HALL85]

Im sorry you are just being naive here. This is the criminal justice system and the police are the enforcement arm of that system. Do you think police are in the suburbs busting up open air drug markets. No. The police were around in the inner cities though. Giuliani instituted stop and frisk in NYC. Did the happen in Short Hills, NJ or Westchester? I don't understand the resistance in admitting that there has been a difference. Are white people being followed by security in a store like black people? No. Don't you know of towns in which black people are pulled over a lot more than white? IF you don't think these things exist then you have your head in the sand.

i remember watching an interview with the police chief of Milwaukee, I believe, a few years ago who was black. He said part of the problem was that LEO’s get conditioned by what they see every day, so if they are working in high crime minority neighborhoods their instincts become a product of their experiences. If you see a lot of black on black crime every day, it’s human nature...it will effect you.

It’s about having an honest conversation. We need to work to do better to have a fair criminal justice system. We also need to accept responsibility in our neighborhoods and communities.

 

[SHUHoopsFan]

Im sorry you are just being naive here. This is the criminal justice system and the police are the enforcement arm of that system. Do you think police are in the suburbs busting up open air drug markets. No. The police were around in the inner cities though. Giuliani instituted stop and frisk in NYC. Did the happen in Short Hills, NJ or Westchester? I don't understand the resistance in admitting that there has been a difference. Are white people being followed by security in a store like black people? No. Don't you know of towns in which black people are pulled over a lot more than white? IF you don't think these things exist then you have your head in the sand.

You’re being naive. Would you guard the 3 point line with the ball in my hands the same way you guard the 3 point line with the ball in Powell’s hands? Why would you police shorts hills the same way you police NYC? Two completely different situations. The difference in violent crimes is as gigantic as the ball in my hands or Powell’s hands. You create things like stop and frisk in places that need it. You don’t do it in places that don’t need it. If the crime rate in Short Hills and NYC were the same, I would bet there never would’ve been stop and frisk. Let’s not make NYC out to be a place where everyone was outside singing Kumbaya together before Giuliani got there.

 

[cernjSHU]

You’re being naive. Would you guard the 3 point line with the ball in my hands the same way you guard the 3 point line with the ball in Powell’s hands? Why would you police shorts hills the same way you police NYC? Two completely different situations. The difference in violent crimes is as gigantic as the ball in my hands or Powell’s hands. You create things like stop and frisk in places that need it. You don’t do it in places that don’t need it. If the crime rate in Short Hills and NYC were the same, I would bet there never would’ve been stop and frisk. Let’s not make NYC out to be a place where everyone was outside singing Kumbaya together before Giuliani got there.

You proved my point. Stop and frisk was blatantly unconstitutional and I never understood how they got away with it for so long. I’m sure if Stop and Frisk was happening in Short Hills that that practice would have ended in a month.

 

[Hallsome]

Im sorry you are just being naive here. This is the criminal justice system and the police are the enforcement arm of that system. Do you think police are in the suburbs busting up open air drug markets. No. The police were around in the inner cities though. Giuliani instituted stop and frisk in NYC. Did the happen in Short Hills, NJ or Westchester? I don't understand the resistance in admitting that there has been a difference. Are white people being followed by security in a store like black people? No. Don't you know of towns in which black people are pulled over a lot more than white? IF you don't think these things exist then you have your head in the sand.

What open air drug market is in short hills lol

 

[shu09]

Im sorry you are just being naive here. This is the criminal justice system and the police are the enforcement arm of that system. Do you think police are in the suburbs busting up open air drug markets. No. The police were around in the inner cities though. Giuliani instituted stop and frisk in NYC. Did the happen in Short Hills, NJ or Westchester? I don't understand the resistance in admitting that there has been a difference. Are white people being followed by security in a store like black people? No. Don't you know of towns in which black people are pulled over a lot more than white? IF you don't think these things exist then you have your head in the sand.

While anyone can commit a crime, statistics show that black folks commit more crime (especially violent crime) per capita than whites. It makes sense to me that they would get extra scrutiny from the police force.

 

[SHUHoopsFan]

You proved my point. Stop and frisk was blatantly unconstitutional and I never understood how they got away with it for so long. I’m sure if Stop and Frisk was happening in Short Hills that that practice would have ended in a month.

I didn’t prove your point at all. My point was you don't police NYC and Short Hills the same way and I'll stick to that. Good news for you is the whatabout police aren't policing you the same way they police they police anyone with a conservative you. I'm sure you would be getting a whatabout Short Hills if they were.