Tulsi Gabbard

[shu09]

Tulsi Gabbard Tells Fox News Democrats ‘Are Against Democracy’ Immediately After Rallying for Election-Denier Kari Lake

Tulsi Gabbard said Democrats "are against democracy," which is why she decided to attend a rally for Kari Lake, who rejected the results of the 2020 election.

www.mediaite.com

Tulsi has a point. Why are these D candidates not debating their opponents? Debates are fundamental to the American electoral process.

Today's Democratic Party, as she says, claims to value American institutions but most of their actions undermine those very institutions. It's really incendiary they way they operate these days.

 

[Merge]

Tulsi has a point. Why are these D candidates not debating their opponents? Debates are fundamental to the American electoral process.

Today's Democratic Party, as she says, claims to value American institutions but most of their actions undermine those very institutions. It's really incendiary they way they operate these days.

The reason is that they think a debate will not provide a benefit to them politically.
I agree with you about the importance of debates though. I think they should be a requirement as a part of running for office.

I do not agree with you implying this a democratic issue. There are plenty on both sides skipping debates.

 

[HALL85]

The reason is that they think a debate will not provide a benefit to them politically.
I agree with you about the importance of debates though. I think they should be a requirement as a part of running for office.

I do not agree with you implying this a democratic issue. There are plenty on both sides skipping debates.

This is another huge problem with the way our system currently operates. Debates should be required and in a way that enables candidates to focus on answering the issues rather than making it a circus side show with the audience overwhelming with catcalls and the moderators trying to take over the show.

I just got back from a meeting in London and obviously politics were a big part of the sidebar discussion given Ukraine/Russia, England PM mess, other elections in Sweden, etc. In most countries I was surprised to learn that there are no TV commercials and any ads are limited to radio and internet. Estimated that spending for this election cycle is $6.4 Billion....that's right, BILLION, and for what???

While it goes both ways, this cycle is clearly more Dems avoiding debates than Reps.


https://www.cnbc.com/2022/09/26/202...king-race-one-of-the-most-expensive-ever.html

 

[Merge]

While it goes both ways, this cycle is clearly more Dems avoiding debates than Reps.

Can you support that?

 

[HALL85]

Can you support that?

Well, we can start with Kathy Hockul/Lee Zelden, Fetterman/Oz and even Shapiro/Mastriano.

 

[NYShoreGuy]

Well, we can start with Kathy Hockul/Lee Zelden, Fetterman/Oz and even Shapiro/Mastriano.

Like merge said this is both ways...hochul/zeldin do Debate 1 time next week. Zeldin wanted 4 to 5 debates. Hobbs not debating lake, i believe that is a mistake. Cant speak on the 2 PA races but Walker didnt show to a 3 person debate over the weekend. Abbott didnt do another debate with Beto and Rubio wouldn't do 2 debates with Demmings they had one last night and lil marco didnt do well.

 

[Merge]

Well, we can start with Kathy Hockul/Lee Zelden, Fetterman/Oz and even Shapiro/Mastriano.

There are debates scheduled for the first two, and Mastriano refused to participate in a debate from independent news organizations, but you're placing blame on Shapiro there?

If you're including having only 1 debate then you can add in some high profile races like Desantis, Rubio and Abbott only agreeing to one.

For those skipping though there is Dewine in Ohio and Pillen in Nebraska.

I don't believe you are correct that there are more Dems skipping.

 

[HALL85]

There are debates scheduled for the first two, and Mastriano refused to participate in a debate from independent news organizations, but you're placing blame on Shapiro there?

If you're including having only 1 debate then you can add in some high profile races like Desantis, Rubio and Abbott only agreeing to one.

For those skipping though there is Dewine in Ohio and Pillen in Nebraska.

I don't believe you are correct that there are more Dems skipping.

Fetterman and Hockul both have been avoiding doing debates. Both didn't want to do one and were forced to do them due to public pressure.

I don't like Mastriano at all (and not voting for him), but his request was for each to provide a moderator of their choice. There was no agreement on the "independent" MSM moderator, which I would understand his point given the slant in the MSM.

Granted, I'm more tuned in to the local races and am not going to do a national search of every debates.

 

[Merge]

Fetterman and Hockul both have been avoiding doing debates. Both didn't want to do one and were forced to do them due to public pressure.

Which is happening on both sides.

I don't like Mastriano at all (and not voting for him), but his request was for each to provide a moderator of their choice. There was no agreement on the "independent" MSM moderator, which I would understand his point given the slant in the MSM.

Just because Mastriano wants to change the rules doesn't mean his request is a reasonable one. He is the one that backed out of having a traditional debate. Each having a moderator of their choice is a ridiculous idea that would lead to a circus.

Granted, I'm more tuned in to the local races and am not going to do a national search of every debates

No one was asking you to, but it was you claimed that this cycle is "clearly" more Dems avoiding debates than Reps... Usually something that is so "clear" would be easy to support.

 

[HALL85]

Which is happening on both sides.

Not on the ones I mentioned.

Just because Mastriano wants to change the rules doesn't mean his request is a reasonable one. He is the one that backed out of having a traditional debate. Each having a moderator of their choice is a ridiculous idea that would lead to a circus.

Are there established "rules" for a traditional debate? Given the putrid MSM, it's not ridiculous and his ask was for them to agree on the two moderators.

No one was asking you to, but it was you claimed that this cycle is "clearly" more Dems avoiding debates than Reps... Usually something that is so "clear" would be easy to support.

Did you wake up on the wrong side of the bed today? You seem like you're in a grumpy mood...

 

[Merge]

Did you wake up on the wrong side of the bed today? You seem like you're in a grumpy mood...

Lol... no. You just said something about Democrats clearly skipping more debates than republicans so I asked you to support it and your response was that you were really more in tune local races. Just seems like an odd thing to say if you haven't actually looked into it.

Candidates being unwilling or reluctant to debate is just not a democrat vs republican issue. It's just a bad candidate issue and there are bad candidates on both sides.

 

[SHUSA]

Fair criticism but I've seen many dems labeled as far left. Probably more so during primaries overall though.

For example:

The far left looks to seize one of the most prominent political jobs in the country

The latest iteration of the movement will face its first citywide test.

www.politico.com

A new wave of far-left candidates out to oust old-guard Democrats

A new generation of liberal Democrats is entering the political arena with a rush of candidates looking to oust the party’s old guard this year.

www.washingtontimes.com

i think the word liberal is basically considered far left to any right wing affiliate. theyre all woke mob. it is the same on each side. both are labeled as extreme. however the republican party tends to back it up a lot more

 

[Pirata]

Some leading Democrats won't debate their election-denying opponents

Midterm debates haven't been scheduled in a variety of races, in Arizona, Michigan and more

abcnews.go.com

 

[Merge]

Some leading Democrats won't debate their election-denying opponents

Midterm debates haven't been scheduled in a variety of races, in Arizona, Michigan and more

abcnews.go.com

Yep. Those dems are bad candidates and their decisions may cost them their elections.
But like I said, it happens on both sides and it is about if one side doesn't see anything to gain politically by having a debate. Fairly pathetic in my opinion, but not a partisan lean to that.