This whole thing is a red herring. Deflect everyone from all the screw ups being made by the administration. The whole thing stinks to high heaven. The plot was in to destroy Trump as soon as he announced that he was running for president in the 2016 election. You just have to look at the clowns running the circus.
United we don’t stand
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Bloomberg - Are you a robot?
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Why wait? Charge the guy now if he's guilty. Why are all things Trump never ending?
We are too close to the blackout time before an election. The DOJ is still going through the evidence. Then they have to prepare the indictment and decide what evidence to present to a Grand Jury. This will take too much time in order to get it done before the 90 day blackout period before elections.
I don't see how the DOJ can let this go without indicting him. Trump left them with no option. The crazy thing of all this is that Trump did this to himself.
Repeating I don’t want Trump to run again even though I liked most of his policies.DOJ has to indict him or they will appear more crooked than many people think they are already.The heretofore broadly respected FBI keeps revealing more partisans on the left protecting dems ignoring their oath.One of them just abruptly retired after it was discovered he was protecting Hunter..Garland will not appoint a special prosecutor for Hunter after 3 years investigation because he would lose control of any eventual indictment or plea deal.Hate to be trump if tried in DC .He will be convicted regardless of evidence in the progressive homeland where Dems outnumber Reps 14-1.
Yup, they rather believe the FBI, DOJ, main stream media, moderate repubs, Dems, Clinton, Obama, biden etc are all framing Trump.
When are they going to wake up?
There's no reason for the public to trust the FBI, DOJ, MSM, republicans, democrats, Clintons, Obamas, Bidens or Trumps. All of which brought that on themselves.
There is a reason to believe some of these groups when much of the facts are there for all to see. Trust but verify…
Trust issues aside, we now know some of the details here and this looks very bad for Trump.
If you want to excuse him for keeping some of the documents and it being an oversight, that's reasonable.
After the subpoena and lies about returning everything that was marked as classified, defending him now is entirely unreasonable.
Yes it looks bad for Trump. But you're asking me to put trust issues aside and only focus on what untrustworthy groups have put out there. Ok based on that, it definitely looks bad for the orange guy. But put everything out there. Swamp creatures going after another swamp creature. I think any reasonable person would say get all of the details out there good and bad on both sides when you're dealing with 2 sides who are not exactly trustworthy.
Well yes, judge, I did the crime but did you look into the cop that caught me?
There is just no excuse for any of those documents to be at Mar a Lago after the subpoena and the Trump team signing off that all documents marked as classified have been returned.
Or...here judge, public trust in me is horrible but here's part of the information. I'll give you the rest of the information when I think you need it.
I don't know about you, but I'd sit there and say to myself this looks crappy for the defendent but I'll reserve comment til I see the rest of the information. You may make your decision now. Good for you. I may come up with the same conclusion as you but I want to see all of it, not just pieces.
Haha. Says the guy who wouldn’t know a point if hit him square in the head. Priceless irony here.
This story doesn't happen if Trump doesn't keep files he has no right to.
None of this happens if he even keeps the documents for a period of time but returned them the first time when he said he did in January.
None of this happens if the then still kept copies of classified documents but complied with a subpoena to return them.
Whatever your option on the DOJ and FBI, had Trump complied (which it is now clear that he did not) then there would be no warrant, no raid, and no ongoing legal disputes between the two.
Not sure what "other side" of this story could possibly excuse what Trump did here.
No, I didn't.
There is no excuse for top secret documents to be there at all especially after they noted that after a "diligent search" they had returned all items with classification markings.
We still don't know why he wanted them and why he didn't return them after the subpoena.
He can still tell his side of the story there, but there is no actual legal excuse after the subpoena.
ok then... I mean, he is free to speak for himself and correct my misunderstanding.
He's been making the same point since the first page.
My response (to him) was that we don't need to see everything to have an opinion at this point because we have already seen enough to say that the DOJ was left with no choice but to go get the files that Trump lied about returning.
Whatever theory you might come up with to make this look bad for the DOJ (like you did on page 1 of this thread) there is nothing that excuses Trump lying about returning all files with classified markings.
What else do you need to know? Has Trump provided any adequate explanation as he fires off day after day about why does he have top secret documents? No.
Lock him up! Lock him up. Karma is a bitch.
What else do we need to know? Even Merge says we now know some of the details. That's right only some. Maybe in legal matters we should only hear from the plaintiffs lawyers. We will then have some of the details and juries can make a decision off that. If some of the details is good enough, then don't wait til after the election. This is a pretty big deal don't you think? Lock him up now. Don't wait. Put all the cards out on the table now and get it done.
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I don't know what the other side of the story is, can't imagine it's great, but in the United States of America we get to hear the other side. That's a somewhat pretty cool thing about this country.
We’re not deciding the verdict, these are just our opinions.
My opinion is that regardless of what else we see, the DOJ was left with no choice but to obtain a warrant because Trump did not comply with the subpoena.
Other facts may come to light which makes this worse for Trump, but nothing is coming that will make it any better.
my god if this was hunter biden instead of trump these knob gobbling idiots would not only trust the FBI theyd get tattoos across their forehead of it.
LOCK HIM UP!!! and publicly shame the people who are STILL sucking farts of this criminal scumbag.
LOCK HIM UP!!! and publicly shame the people who are STILL sucking farts of this criminal scumbag.
Haha, 100% not true, you may not be trump’s number one fan but you certainly are not the last person to defend trump. It’s crazy statements like that makes me feel sorry for you.
In this message thread you blame the fbi for investigating trump because as you said Trump attacked them for years so you think it’s not a valid operation with the little evidence to go on..
Well they have plenty of evidence right?, I don’t think the FBI told trump to break the law, and like you said, why have laws at all if you don’t enforce them?
lol….don’t hurt yourself trying to twist my words. Really pathetic attempts, but that’s how you roll.
Don’t blame me you wrote all those things
1) not much evidence for the fbi to do this. You were so wrong!
2) fbi going after trump is motivated by years of trump attacking fbi (not by actual laws being broken). Umm see #1
3) laws are created to be enforced. I agree. Im sure there are reasons this has taken this long but my only rub is that he should have been locked up by now like any other treasonist person.
Anybody can do a quick search for your posts and you will find you said all of the above.
It’s so sad that can’t even stand by your own comments.
but It never is. That just allows the narrative to be written especially when Zuckerberg goes on Rogan and paints a picture that the FBI had something to do with the Facebook suppressing the Hunter Biden story. It doesn’t help public perception and the narrative grows that the FBI isn’t trustworthy.
Zuckerberg did not say the FBI had something to do with them suppressing the Hunter Biden story.
He said the FBI told Facebook to be alert for Russia propaganda because Russia did use Facebook in that way during the 2016 election.
Facebook, not the FBI, decided to not amplify the story in news feeds while the story was vetted though they did allow it to be shared.
Zuckerberg tells Rogan FBI warning prompted Biden laptop story censorship - BBC News
In an interview with Joe Rogan, Mark Zuckerberg says the story was flagged after an FBI warning.
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Mark Zuckerberg says Facebook restricting a story about Joe Biden's son during the 2020 election was based on FBI misinformation warnings.
The FBI didn't say to the Facebook shut down this story. I never claimed they did. But the Facebook didn't amplify the story because of informaion they got from the FBI. I don't know how you would word it other than the FBI had something to do with suppressing the story. The decision made by the Facebook was based on (poor) information they received from the FBI. Spin it however you would like, but that's what Zuckerberg said. And now people can run with that and they are.
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Zuckerberg tells Rogan FBI warning prompted Biden laptop story censorship - BBC News
In an interview with Joe Rogan, Mark Zuckerberg says the story was flagged after an FBI warning.
Mark Zuckerberg says Facebook restricting a story about Joe Biden's son during the 2020 election was based on FBI misinformation warnings.
Right.
FBI warned about general misinformation.
Facebook did not amplify the Hunter Biden story while it was vetted.
That does not mean that the FBI had something to do with suppressing the Hunter Biden story. They did not mention the Hunter Biden story to Facebook.
The FBI telling Facebook (and other social media companies) to be alert for foreign propaganda during an election should not be something that harms public perception about the FBI.
You word it as Facebook suppressed a story with political implications leading up to an election while it was vetted because that is the policy they created as a response to the 2016 election where their platform was used to spread misinformation and further threat assessments from the FBI.
No. That is not correct. The FBI did not comment about the Hunter Biden story to Facebook. That’s what Zuckerberg actually said.
They'd be saying we followed our policy and we do not regret it if that was the case. They'd show how they did the same thing for both candidates. They were a neutral party. Etc Zuckerberg isn't a dumb guy. But he's got nothing on this one.
I never said the FBI directly commented on Hunter Biden story. Please show me where I typed that. You want to interpret what I write in your own way. That's fine. But it's also fine that millions of Americans interpret what Zuckerberg said in their own way. End result is there is a narrative out there that the FBI is skewed. This just adds to it.
lol yes zuck smart, neutral, all around great guy. totally the stance youve guys had for years now
you didn't comprehend what I said, but that's okay. If he had anything to suggest he was neutral he would show it. That would support the fact that we at the facebook had this policy and we followed it for both candidates fairly. But clearly he doesn't. And Zuckerberg is a very smart guy. He didn't get to into Harvard and have a gigantic business by being an idiot. Most people can't take a business from ground floor to the top. Usually they sell in between.
