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[anon_ezos2e9wn1ob0]

i agree with your last point but:

1) "5 WHOLE years" working hard starting entry level. there are people who work hard 20'years at an entry level job and get nowhere. do you realize that despite denying it, it has very much to do with race and sexuality and class?

2) its great you feel that way about identity politics, but you are seriously denying the fact it IS that way in America and has been since its beginning. its hardly debatable.

3) my original point is that class has been ignored in the rememberence of every single event in history. and plays a big part. its not the american dream as advertised for many people. you mentioned race and sexuality but ommitted class.... exactly the point i was making. i never said anything about race or sexuality before you brought it up.

So you're saying I only advanced because I am white? I disagree.

NO doubt America has judged people thru it's history. Irish, Italians, Polish, Mexicans all have dealt with it. Those people didn't quit, they worked and built good communities. They are not sitting here on 2020 blaming others.

People from all classes can succeed. Work hard to give your kids a better life

 

[SHUSA]

There was no USA in the 1500s. Since it's founding (and particularly in the 19th and 20th centuries), America has certainly been the land of opportunity where those who work hard can make it regardless of background.

there were colonies and those colonies were built on the investment pitch that low class servants would build it up for the rich to move into and then sort of die off. but they didnt. America was indeed founded on that premise of anyone can make it anywhere... but it hasnt exactly been played out as advertised.

the country was founded that all men are created equal... "results came back and determined that was a lie"- maury. race not equal, sex not equal, and class not equal. it never bucked the trend of the rich focused on controlling the poor class to keep themselves rich. the idea was that the 1% wasnt supposed to control the rest of the 99%. but here we are. and all poor people are not lazy, in case that was going to be thrown in there.

and in present day, political party/race/sex etc are used through the media to get people divided and forget the real issue before all of it has always been rich vs poor.

and the poor im speaking of initially was rural americans, so no this isnt a blm focused post by any means i hope it isnt construed that way.

 

[anon_ezos2e9wn1ob0]

there were colonies and those colonies were built on the investment pitch that low class servants would build it up for the rich to move into and then sort of die off. but they didnt. America was indeed founded on that premise of anyone can make it anywhere... but it hasnt exactly been played out as advertised.

the country was founded that all men are created equal... "results came back and determined that was a lie"- maury. race not equal, sex not equal, and class not equal. it never bucked the trend of the rich focused on controlling the poor class to keep themselves rich. the idea was that the 1% wasnt supposed to control the rest of the 99%. but here we are. and all poor people are not lazy, in case that was going to be thrown in there.

and in present day, political party/race/sex etc are used through the media to get people divided and forget the real issue before all of it has always been rich vs poor.

and the poor im speaking of initially was rural americans, so no this isnt a blm focused post by any means i hope it isnt construed that way.

You're describing the human race not America. The rich have always controlled things. Your heart is in the right place, but why do you worry about things you cannot control?

I donate monthly to good causes like St. Judes and Childrens Hospital. It makes me feel good. I know I can't save the world and there are many peopl3 who need help.

 

[SHUSA]

So you're saying I only advanced because I am white? I disagree.

NO doubt America has judged people thru it's history. Irish, Italians, Polish, Mexicans all have dealt with it. Those people didn't quit, they worked and built good communities. They are not sitting here on 2020 blaming others.

People from all classes can succeed. Work hard to give your kids a better life

im not saying that in your particular case no, but white males have statistically had the upper hand in regards to promotions. male vs female is just as important to mention.

people from all classes can succeed. accurate. people from upper class will most likely succeed at a higher and greater rate, regardless of how hard they work. accurate. everyone is trying to work hard to give their kids a better life but it cannot be ignored that there is an insurmountable head start. rich circles lend to rich circles for goodness sake our president is a walkikg metaphor for it

 

[shu09]

there were colonies and those colonies were built on the investment pitch that low class servants would build it up for the rich to move into and then sort of die off. but they didnt. America was indeed founded on that premise of anyone can make it anywhere... but it hasnt exactly been played out as advertised.

the country was founded that all men are created equal... "results came back and determined that was a lie"- maury. race not equal, sex not equal, and class not equal. it never bucked the trend of the rich focused on controlling the poor class to keep themselves rich. the idea was that the 1% wasnt supposed to control the rest of the 99%. but here we are. and all poor people are not lazy, in case that was going to be thrown in there.

and in present day, political party/race/sex etc are used through the media to get people divided and forget the real issue before all of it has always been rich vs poor.

and the poor im speaking of initially was rural americans, so no this isnt a blm focused post by any means i hope it isnt construed that way.

There were no British colonies in the present day US in the 1500s.

 

[SHUSA]

There were no British colonies in the present day US in the 1500s.

actually dispatches were as early as the 1400s. the first official one was in 1607 after several failed attempts including Roanoke in the late 1500s. doesnt change that the idea of making the land liveable through servant and slave work didnt happen in the 1500s as well.

its just semantics. and if u prefer continue with 1600s.

 

[Hallsome]

im not saying that in your particular case no, but white males have statistically had the upper hand in regards to promotions. male vs female is just as important to mention.

people from all classes can succeed. accurate. people from upper class will most likely succeed at a higher and greater rate, regardless of how hard they work. accurate. everyone is trying to work hard to give their kids a better life but it cannot be ignored that there is an insurmountable head start. rich circles lend to rich circles for goodness sake our president is a walkikg metaphor for it

And so is Biden. And Obama is a walking metaphor for the other side. You have an issue with distribution of wealth.

im not saying that in your particular case no, but white males have statistically had the upper hand in regards to promotions. male vs female is just as important to mention.

people from all classes can succeed. accurate. people from upper class will most likely succeed at a higher and greater rate, regardless of how hard they work. accurate. everyone is trying to work hard to give their kids a better life but it cannot be ignored that there is an insurmountable head start. rich circles lend to rich circles for goodness sake our president is a walkikg metaphor for it

everyone working hard is utterly false.

 

[HALL85]

im not saying that in your particular case no, but white males have statistically had the upper hand in regards to promotions. male vs female is just as important to mention.

people from all classes can succeed. accurate. people from upper class will most likely succeed at a higher and greater rate, regardless of how hard they work. accurate. everyone is trying to work hard to give their kids a better life but it cannot be ignored that there is an insurmountable head start. rich circles lend to rich circles for goodness sake our president is a walkikg metaphor for it

No one is saying this country is perfect, but this is a human nature issue. Those with wealth look to preserve it. Maybe the question to ask, is can you point to a country or countries where a minority in that country or born into poverty has a better chance of ascending and being successful?

 

[ed odowd]

A lot of guys have strong opinions and raised temperatures on this year’s election.It is good that so many care.
it is sad that almost every catholic democratic Candidate for office at all levels is compelled to support choice,
same sex marriage and many late term abortion.Jie Biden even officiated a same sex wedding while bragging
about being a live long catholic.I wish these politicians would join another religion rather than saying it is all right to be a
catholic and take these positions.It is interesting that Catholics represent 20% of US population but have only
had 1 president.And now we have VP candidate who says a catholic should not be a federal or Supreme Court
nominee and the knights of Columbus is a discriminatory organization because they oppose choice and same sex marriage.
We remain only religion you can insult with no repercussions say something about Islam that represents about 2% of
population and you will be castigated,be Senator Harris and your anti Catholicism will be rewarded. Sad.

 

[anon_ezos2e9wn1ob0]

And so is Biden. And Obama is a walking metaphor for the other side. You have an issue with distribution of wealth.

everyone working hard is utterly false.

Yes there are alot of lazy people who abuse drugs and alcohol. Working hard is not a guarantee for a wealthy life but it gives you the best chance to make a good life for you and your family.

 

[HALL85]

This is really bizarre as the election has become only a referendum on Trump. Was on LBI for vacation last week and there were dozens of Trump/Pence signs (and the regatta), and multiple anti-Trump signs (ranging from funny to disturbing), but not one; not one Biden sign. I find that amazing...it's like he's a default placeholder.

 

[Pirata]

everyone is trying to work hard to give their kids a better life but it cannot be ignored that there is an insurmountable head start. rich circles lend to rich circles for goodness sake our president is a walking metaphor for it

"it cannot be ignored that there is an insurmountable head start"

You are making statements with no basis.

"rich circles lend to rich circles"

My unsolicited advice is to not go through life worrying that some people are born into wealth. No matter how much you are born with, there are always people who were born into more.

High odds your were born with much more than most people on this earth.

Take the hand you were dealt and make the most of it. Help others as best you can.