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Not a great list. Duke, Bryant, Dehere, Powell and Davies
Not a great list. Duke, Bryant, Dehere, Powell and Davies
Crazy to mix eras, but if I had to say it:
Dukes
Davies
Werkman
Powell
Dehere
Desi. Rhoden has time though.I agree with West Coast Pirates in that you need to keep the positions close to what they would actually play as if you were fielding an actual team.
My all Willard Pirates team.
PG Whitehead
SG Myles Powell
SF
PF Angel Delgado
C Ro Gill
For the SF I’m stuck between Edwin, Desi, Rhoden, Hazel
Bench: Mamu, Theodore, Carrington.
I get the recency bias, but Bob Davies is in the Hall of Fame (!!!!) and Walter Dukes averaged 19 and 19 for his career, 26 and 22 as a senior, and also averaged a double double in the NBA. Any all-time list has to start with those two, plus Werkman. After that, I’d say Dehere as the fourth. Fifth spot up for debate. I know it’s heresy, but Powell’s senior year through absolutely no fault of his own may possibly bump him from the all-time best list. And don’t discount a player like Glen Mosley, even though the guys who made up the original list may never have heard of him.
You saw him play way more than me, but shocked to see McCloud on the list, let alone first team. And no way am I putting Griffin on frst team, or on any team either. His talent was there of course, but what he gave us is not all time in my book.Honorable mention
C Ramos
PF Mamu
SF Karnishovas
2G Morton
PG Holloway
No problem with Griffin. In fact I expected that type of response. But if we go strictly by talent he was probably the most talented player in our Big East history. A one and done lottery pick.
Regarding McCloud, incredibly underrated because he played on PJ's absolute worst teams. But given that and the attention he received on the defensive end McCloud is 7th on the Hall's all time scoring list with 1976 pts. Behind only Dehere, Werkman, Powell, Hazel, Tynes and Callandrillo.
In my mind it was between he and Hazel for best SF. And since Hazell was really a 2G who could have played the 3 I went with McCloud.
agree on powells assessment.I get the recency bias, but Bob Davies is in the Hall of Fame (!!!!) and Walter Dukes averaged 19 and 19 for his career, 26 and 22 as a senior, and also averaged a double double in the NBA. Any all-time list has to start with those two, plus Werkman. After that, I’d say Dehere as the fourth. Fifth spot up for debate. I know it’s heresy, but Powell’s senior year through absolutely no fault of his own may possibly bump him from the all-time best list. And don’t discount a player like Glen Mosley, even though the guys who made up the original list may never have heard of him.
No PG?Ramon Ramos - C
Mark Bryant - PF
Terry Dehere - G
Myles Powell - G
Nick Werkman - F
I wish I had seen Richie Regan play for the Hall because he would get serious consideration as my PG. He led the SH freshman team to a 39 - 1 record and in his three varsity season they were 80 - 12. and played 3 years in the NBA because those who saw him play raved about him. In his three varsity years he scored 1,167 ppg and handed out a total of 443 assists. A first round pick of the Rochester Royals he first had to serve two years with the Marines before joining them and he certainly needs to be recognized as one of the best to ever play for SH.No PG?
Fair enoughThat's the problem, I doubt most here did. Same with Saul, Dukes, Davies, House and a few others.
That's why I posted my list from only players I saw, which mostly coincided with the Big East era.
With all due respect to the other greats, the levels of competition and the juggernaut Big East that Callandrillo and Bryant played in really brings their values that much higher. It’s hard to keep them off a first or second team when nearly every opponent of theirs was targeting them game in and game out.
Werkman and Dukes were beige my time, but I hear stories upon stories from my dad on their dominance.
Galis
Powell
Dehere
Werkman
Dukes
2nd team
Morton
Callandrillo
Whitehead
Bryant
Sam D