Who to root for Butler or Creighton?
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So, we can't go wrong here in my opinion. Butler 16-9 (7-7) project to finish at 11-9 or even 10-10 in the conference. We must beat them next week without question. Their remaining games are (Creighton, @Villanova, @Seton Hall, SJU, @DePaul, Xavier).
#17 Creighton 18-7 (9-5) look to finish 3rd in the conference. However, their schedule is going to be challenging the rest of the way. They have (@Butler, UConn, @SJU, Seton Hall, Marquette, @Villanova). It would not be impossible for them to lose 4 of those 6 remaining, although they are good enough to get by most of those games. Should they lose 4 and Seton Hall wins 3 then The Hall finishes 3rd in a Power Conference. I guess the Metric Police could still keep the Hall out, but it won't be easy. It also shows how important the Hall at SJU game is.
#17 Creighton 18-7 (9-5) look to finish 3rd in the conference. However, their schedule is going to be challenging the rest of the way. They have (@Butler, UConn, @SJU, Seton Hall, Marquette, @Villanova). It would not be impossible for them to lose 4 of those 6 remaining, although they are good enough to get by most of those games. Should they lose 4 and Seton Hall wins 3 then The Hall finishes 3rd in a Power Conference. I guess the Metric Police could still keep the Hall out, but it won't be easy. It also shows how important the Hall at SJU game is.
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I hope Butler wins today, and then we beat them at the Rock next Sat.
Rooting for Creighton. They are almost definitely in the tournament, right now projected as a 4 or 5 seed. It would take a monumental collapse for them not to get in.
Butler on the other hand is our direct competition for a bid. They are currently projected as a 10 seed, but we can do damage by beating them next week. Advances our chances at a bid while diminishing theirs. Chances of us beating Creighton at their place are much smaller. We don't want Butlers resume looking any better with a sweep of Creighton. Creighton winning doesn't effect us, they were pretty much already a lock with Uconn and Marquette.
Butler on the other hand is our direct competition for a bid. They are currently projected as a 10 seed, but we can do damage by beating them next week. Advances our chances at a bid while diminishing theirs. Chances of us beating Creighton at their place are much smaller. We don't want Butlers resume looking any better with a sweep of Creighton. Creighton winning doesn't effect us, they were pretty much already a lock with Uconn and Marquette.
Rooting for Butler. We have to beat them at home (a sweep) so why not try for 3rd place in the conference?
Because we need less teams on the bubble, not more. Whether we finish ahead of Creighton in the regular season standings will mean nothing to the selection committee. Metrics is what they look at and ours aren’t great
If Creighton wins this game our bubble position remains stronger than butlers, even if we lose to Butler at home
Finish 3rd in the league while sweeping Butler along the way gets the Pirates in the Dance.
Creighton. Doesnt look like finiahing 3rd or 4th helps our seed or getting in. Gotta root for bubble teams to lose at this point
Just about everyone's figured out the Kalkbrenner roll to the basket. Why can't we?
We have to beat Butler next week to Dance. Lose that game and most probably we're in the NIT. So why not shoot for the stars?
Hard to believe a 3rd place team in the Big East, one who swept Butler is going to have to worry about the Bulldogs being invited over the Pirates.
Hard to believe a 3rd place team in the Big East, one who swept Butler is going to have to worry about the Bulldogs being invited over the Pirates.
I agree. Like I said we will gain capital either way. I believe the BigEast could and should get at least 5 teams in. Butler has only lost to UConn, Seton Hall and Marquette at home. Would that become more and more of a solid road win?? Many other teams on The Bubble that we want to lose.
Mathematically speaking… we could still finish in second place
We got what we wanted today. A big butler loss and a big uconn win.
I find it hard to believe Butler is in as good shape as many believe. They're 4-9 against Q1 and have more Q3/4 wins (eight plus a non D-I win) than Q1/2 wins.
The thing helping them is two Q1 non-conference wins -- Texas Tech (26) and Boise State (43). The latter is a neutral site win.
The thing helping them is two Q1 non-conference wins -- Texas Tech (26) and Boise State (43). The latter is a neutral site win.
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Creighton 79-57 Butler (Feb 17, 2024) Box Score - ESPN
Box score for the Creighton Bluejays vs. Butler Bulldogs NCAAM game from February 17, 2024 on ESPN. Includes all points, rebounds and steals stats.
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