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Lol 2 cops being shot is disingenuous. Another gangster shot after commiting crimes is your hero, you bitch ass white boy.
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Lol 2 cops being shot is disingenuous. Another gangster shot after commiting crimes is your hero, you bitch ass white boy.
A tactical failure? Shame on you and your obvious lack of respect for law enforcement. These two brave men risked their lives and ran towards danger. Something you would know nothing about. They were ambushed. One will more than likely die and you call it a tactical failure. If they hid outside and waited for backup or a swat team to arrive more lives could have been taken inside the house and Monday morning quartbacks like you would be ripping them apart saying they should have done more. If a swat team arrived and killed the dirt bag, cop haters like you would be crying about the militarization of the police and blamed the police no matter how long a rap sheet the dirtbag had.
I read the link but ask you to be more specific as to where it explains the entire incident.
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Shame on you for this ugly, not well thought reply and worst of all shame on spk for liking the message.
One, like me, can be pro law enforcement and opine that this was a tactical failure. The homeowners were out of the house in a back alley or street. All that was left was the gunman and the other transient individual. If a suspect fires a weapon at police or civilians, I have no sympathy for the lethal/fatal consequences suspect may recieve in response.
You are mixing pieces of my advocacy to spin your agenda narrative against me and have others cosign.
My belief in Black Lives Matter doesn't mean I am anti law enforcement and I am not as I have two retired NYPD in my family.
If people are peacefully protesting without threat of violence police reaction doesn't have to be deploying tear gas as a deterrent.
Police have a tough job, they chose to sign up for that job. It certainly isn't helping matters when they are overly aggresive on traffic stops, street patrols and violate someone who has willingly shown they will comply with commands.
Regarding this, I can't wait for more on the incident to come out. Because these two officers should have not been in that type of disadvantegous spot.
I pray for the critically shot officer.
Damn proud to like SHUMatt’s post when you are flippant like that.
The story just doesn’t fit the narrative, I’m not sure any pro athletes sadly will ever know about this story. We don’t live in a perfect world, but one visit for lunch at the Essex county jail and anyone wanting to defund the police will realize there are some sick people living amongst us. Thankfully a lot of those sick individuals are behind bars.
We can exchanged stories bitch and complained but Monday AM I’m going to make some calls And try to see if I can get my police workshop idea to gain some traction. Every kid in every school system has to attend a police workshop once a year from first grade thru HS. Learn about the police, ask questions, each worshop would have topics related to that age group.
I urge everyone who feels strongly to come up with their own solutions. Defunding the police makes about as much sense as closing mental hospitals did 15 to 20 years ago. Bunch of people thought folks were being abused. Maybe they were but they had a roof over their head and 3 meals. All these years later we now have a large percentage of homeless with mental issues no roof over their head and trouble getting food and medical attention. How did that happen? Easy people making bad decision. The stakes are higher right now, cutting police departments too much will result in innocent people getting hurt.
I urge everyone who feels strongly to come up with their own solutions. Defunding the police makes about as much sense as closing mental hospitals did 15 to 20 years ago. Bunch of people thought folks were being abused. Maybe they were but they had a roof over their head and 3 meals. All these years later we now have a large percentage of homeless with mental issues no roof over their head and trouble getting food and medical attention. How did that happen? Easy people making bad decision. The stakes are higher right now, cutting police departments too much will result in innocent people getting hurt.
ST. LOUIS, Mo. — A St. Louis police officer who was shot in the head while responding to a shooting on the city’s south side died Sunday, authorities said. Officer Tamarris L. Bohannon, 29, had been with the department for 3 1/2 years.
This hero was African American. Does his black life matter or is that only reserved for criminals that resist arrest?
This hero was African American. Does his black life matter or is that only reserved for criminals that resist arrest?
"He was 29 years old and was on the force for three and a half years.
He leaves behind a wife and three children."
He leaves behind a wife and three children."
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Disgusting. This is the type of man that all young black men should aspire to be. Instead they're taught to be like Eric garner, Geroge Floyd, Michael Brown and the gangster from Wisconsin.
I pray for this man's wife and kids.
A person on stimulant drugs can be super strong. who knows what or if this was the case. Apparently he broke free, ran to his car was about to reach in. What would have gone through your mind if you were that cop?
a. he forgot to wear a mask? b. he is looking for a pack of gum? c. he, a convicted felon, may have a gun in his car?
What I don't understand is this. Why are people so polarized? If you are for the police, you are against the protestors of police brutality and the victims of it? If you are for BLM, why against the police? I find it abhorrent that people are trying and in some cases killing police officers. I also find it abhorrent that police that brutalized George Floyd to the point of killing him. Let's also not make the mistake that because people have committed a crime they deserved to be killed. Police officers are not the judge and jury. We as a people must condemn when citizens do wrong and when law enforcement officers do wrong as well after proper and thorough investigations.
Media and politicians. Everyone was sickened by the way George Floyd died and supports accountability. 99% of Americans are sickened by the riots and looting. Politicians and the MSM are motivated to divide and keep the story alive for money and power. It’s pretty simple.
Why are so few proposing real solutions and why is nothing being done to advance them?
My view:
- Like any profession, there are bad actors that need to be addressed. Each profession needs to have standards and a process.
- There is absolutely no evidence of institutional racism across the 20,000 police forces.
- Policing is a local issue. Mayor, council, PD, union needs to address, lead and be accountable.
- Why should my town have to conform to some regulations that were put in place because of poor leadership and actions in another city?
- Call out those who divide. Stop voting for them.
I totally agree with you. I think we have to get out of the mindset that we have to choose one side versus the other. In regards to the protests and social unrests there has been violence on both sides and that is unacceptable. The only protests that should be allowed are peaceful protests. I will never agree with protesting in a violent manner in the name of Black Lives Matter movement. I also don't agree with Trump supporters attacking other protesters. Do I think that there needs to be some serious change in police procedures? Yes. Do I think all police officers are terrible human beings? No. However just because the amount of police officers that make poor decisions is low, does not mean it is something that should be ignored. Police officers have a dangerous job and God Bless them for taking on such an important role for our society. We do have to be respectful of their authority and I would never tell anyone that resisting arrest is a smart move.
However resisting arrest, mouthing off should not be a death sentence. Unfortunately there are some fundamental differences how some officers treat citizens depending on their race. Having someone like this is in charge makes it difficult to have trust in the police. (https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-new...ns-over-racist-rant-leaked-recording-n1238791)
These officers handled things a little differently than the case in Wisconsin. Don't know the full stories, but I think it is still interesting to see how a situation can be handled without taking a life.
You asked for an explanation in a previous post.
https://www.abc10.com/article/news/...tion/103-80227c9d-0447-4233-bfdc-ddd2255a5a6f.
If you play the video clip it will show a summary of the case.
You had mentioned what the warrant was for? Should that matter? If the guy is surrendering it doesn't matter if he has a warrant for murder or for unpaid child support it is not the role of the officer to dictate what his punishment is going to be or treat him in anything less than a civil manner. I agree with you that civil suit is coming, but there should also be a criminal suit for assault. Unfortunately the department policies does not even allow them to release how the officer was punished for his actions.
I don't remember which poster said this but I agree with having more discussions in the schools. I think that is an excellent place to start. I do remember having DARE in school and while I think it wasn't effective in keeping kids away from drugs it does create a chance for students to develop a relationship with an officer. The more opportunities that officers have to be in the community as well as create a forum for students to ask questions the better. Officers should be respected, but not feared and I think that when we have civil conversation with one another we can understand each other's perspectives.
I think the police need better training on deescalation techniques. Maybe they work with professions that are trained in such a manner such as medical professionals, social workers, etc.
There also need to be more accountability when they make wrong decisions. There is a multitude of reasons why it is difficult to prosecute an officer. Part of those reasons include the support of police unions, good officers being afraid to step forward due to retaliation, prosecutions relationship. Until the justice system prosecutes officers and punishes them for unacceptable actions change will not happen. Not saying every officer who shoots a minority citizen is guilty, but there are some cases where they should have been punished more appropriately.
Finally I think we have to have discussion with our loved ones about how to interact with officers. I am very honest with my family and say that I believe that if you treat an officer with respect and follow their instructions my hope is that you will be safe and the issue will be resolved in a civil manner, however do not be naive and assume that this will always be the case.
Thanks for the response. A lot of common sense suggestions and all of it based on better communication.
When we see examples of effective policing, you also see a community that is engaged and works together.
- Education in the schools
- Body cams mandatory
- Police/community review boards (set policy, review issues, communicate to the community)
- Training on de-escalation techniques
- National database on officers dismissed so they can’t pop up without background vetting
- Responsible parenting
I agree that regardless of the warrant, any suspect should be arrested as peacefully as possible and without harm.
However, I would think a warrant for unpaid alimony would be treated differently then a warrant for murder and armed robbery. By treated differently, I think there would be a heighten sense of danger with the latter.
I watched it again.
It does not provide insight into the entire encounter.
As I stated previously, I would like to a see a video of the entire encounter to determine what if anything precipitated the kick in the back. If it ends up that it was a-hole cop with no cause than he should get the book thrown at him.
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So Drew Brees is wearing Blake's name on his helmet. I was wondering what nfl player was going to wear the name of the 14 year old girl Blake sexually assaulted on their helmet.
why is it so hard to realize that both sides have valid arguments? obv this board is completey one sided but that side goes through a lot of effort to think how every scenario is fine and not enough effort thinking "huh maybe this is a bit too much"
yes i know the minority has similar and unique flaws too but its like 3 people and theyre not swaying anyone.
we need to stop trying to prove people wrong in defense of being proven wrong ourselves. but our "leader" basically a walking stereotype of this so i dont expect it to change.
yes i know the minority has similar and unique flaws too but its like 3 people and theyre not swaying anyone.
we need to stop trying to prove people wrong in defense of being proven wrong ourselves. but our "leader" basically a walking stereotype of this so i dont expect it to change.
I've been playing in Andre Reed's fund raiser for the last several years. I had an opportunity to see Sharpe on many occasions. On a few levels, he did not leave a particular good impression on me. Others in attendance shared the same thing. When you contrast him with guys like John Stallworth or Franco Harris, it is night and day. Stallworth in particular is a man of the highest caliber.
That being said, Sharpe has his platform and this is how he chooses to use it.
I'll take Stallworth's platform and voice any day.
That being said, Sharpe has his platform and this is how he chooses to use it.
I'll take Stallworth's platform and voice any day.
Kenosha business owner declines President Trump photo-op, former owner replaces him
A Kenosha business owner is accusing President Donald Trump of using his destroyed store for political gain.
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John Rode, the owner of the property did not share that sentiment.
"Meanwhile, Rode praised Trump. “I just appreciate President Trump coming today, everybody here does,” Rode said. “We’re so thankful we got the federal troops here. Once they got here things did calm down quite a bit.”
“A day earlier would have saved his store,” Trump responded.
"Meanwhile, Rode praised Trump. “I just appreciate President Trump coming today, everybody here does,” Rode said. “We’re so thankful we got the federal troops here. Once they got here things did calm down quite a bit.”
“A day earlier would have saved his store,” Trump responded.
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I hope Tyler Eifert is joined by others.
still waiting for everyone to admit that maybe police also need change. good to hear the first thing the sergeant did was lie about the kid having a weapon to cover his squads ass. quickly confirmed he didnt have anything remotely close to a weapon.
just another case of our countries best being completely incompetent. but dont hold them to any standard and dont admit they need better training and accountability.
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just another case of our countries best being completely incompetent. but dont hold them to any standard and dont admit they need better training and accountability.
Police shoot 13-year-old boy with autism several times after mother calls for help
‘They’re supposed to de-escalate a situation,’ says mother whose son Linden Cameron was having an episode caused by ‘separation anxiety’
since this one so noticeably went radio silent ^^^ ill just keep following up with new material. the silence is quite convenient. god forbid we also talk about the steps needed to improve our countries police depts. they do a lot of great things. heros. but too many cases and instances of criminal actions. accountability, poor recruitment, corruption, etc. arent they also citizens of the united states? who is watching the watchmen etc.still waiting for everyone to admit that maybe police also need change. good to hear the first thing the sergeant did was lie about the kid having a weapon to cover his squads ass. quickly confirmed he didnt have anything remotely close to a weapon.
just another case of our countries best being completely incompetent. but dont hold them to any standard and dont admit they need better training and accountability.
Police shoot 13-year-old boy with autism several times after mother calls for help
‘They’re supposed to de-escalate a situation,’ says mother whose son Linden Cameron was having an episode caused by ‘separation anxiety’
Do some police officers or police departments need a change, I am sure they do. Do all need a change, in my opinion NO. Isn't making a blanket statement/decision based on certain events and not taking all the other factors involved in police work the same as why racism & sexism are wrong?
This is not different then any other profession: are some doctors, lawyers, pro athletes, priests, constructions workers, actors, etc.. bad people, they sure are, should everyone associated with those professions be grouped together and need to be changed. So should all OBGYNs need to be changed because of criminals like the doctor who assaulted Andrew Yang's wife and many others?
I am all for improving this great country, but lets have serious conversations with concrete ideas and solutions. Things like defund the police, the takeover zones popping up in Seattle and Portland, rioting, attacking or killing cops, destroying public or private property are not solutions, and they also do not improve our country.
i posted about sample size and statistical significance in another thread. . for me, i think this board is still in denial mode acknowledging that maybe there is a problem on that end too. i don't think we should defund the police, although that term is misinterpreted by many.
OBGYNs dont need a change. why? how many years does it take to be an obgyn? how many weeks for a police officer? now were starting to get at concrete ideas.
im not here to connect the issues of siding with protestors and rioters or police. the last few links ive sent have nothing to do with blm, protests, or riots. they have to do with accountability and lying and covering tracks. im seeing them as separate issues that are legitimate.
the problem is what this board and you just did. you make it an issue of some officers vs every single officer. nobody is saying every single officer is bad. nobody ever ever said that. the point is that TOO MANY are, and too many instances where there are coverups, lying, and free passes to those who do bad things. thats becomes systematic. this goes from something small like having my car illegally towed by police after it was parked completely legally all the way up to straight up lying about killing innocent people (see above).
for the record i think the riots are absolutely stupid and anyone who contracts covid should be denied medical care.
Police officers are the most discriminated group in the country. Not only is it accepted by many it is actually applauded. Police officers can’t get a simple cup of coffee without worrying about it getting spit in, a nasty word or phrase written on the cup or a stupid comment, police officers have had drugs and broken glass placed inside their sandwiches, they have been refused service in stores and restaurants.
I agree there have been some instances where police officers were wrong but it seems like a lot of people (pro athletes, the media and members of the left) are judging the entire profession on the actions of very few.
I am not sure how "defund" police is being misinterpreted by many, most cuts will only make things worse.
Do you think they teach you in medical school not to be a criminal? Sure they make you go to school for more years, but does that make you any better of a person. Just like a cop could be a criminal or a racist, so could a doctor or a truck driver.
You think more training should be added at the police academy, I am okay with that proposal, at least that is a concrete idea, possible improvement.
As for cover ups, doesn't that happen in all levels of society? Is it wrong, sure is, but think just human nature for someone to protect friends, family and/or co-workers. Unfortunately cover ups happen from corporate America board rooms, to police departments, to boy scout troops, to frats, to street gangs. I do not think cover ups happen with police any more than rest of society.
No one is saying bad police should be held accountable. Everyone thinks investing in more training given the complexity of law enforcement is a good thing. (I’m all for paying more property taxes to have a better trained police force....are you?)
Legislation has been presented, proposed and rejected. Ask yourself why.
im not in favor of defund the police movement. from my understanding money still allocated to public safety? anyway i think its ridiculous. for obvious reasons.
i think better training, longer training, and personality screenings. should be some sort of outreach and committee aimed at instances where police are covering the rug up over situations. the issue for now has been that the order to cover up everything comes from the superior's superior superior etc. Justice is the name of the game isnt it?
cover ups arent supposed to happen with those in charge of holding others accountable. if you cant be held accountable how can people trust you to hold others accountable. i think this is where a lot of angst comes in.
as a policeman they teach you how not to be a criminal. youre expected to not be a criminal. i dont think "do as i say not as i do" works for any legal occupation. but i guess those that know the rules exploit them the most.
i have no choice in the taxes i pay. so i learn not to mind them. unless theyre going to rutgers in which case i moved out of NJ.
What about the proposed legislation?https://www.npr.org/2020/06/17/8790...rm legislation that was unveiled on Wednesday.
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