our freshman center can help us this year. glad we have him

Seton75 said:

has any d1 team this century been held to a lower point total in a game than wagner was today? I think the answer is no.

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2/2/19 - #23 NC State was held to 24 points fwiw by #12 Va Tech.

Novel concept. Critical thinking.

Or you can just cut, paste and post tweets all day… lol

JTSHU said:

Do u want freshman anymore? Especially the quality we get. The best teams can get freshman who produce 1st and 2nd year. We have to wait till they are juniors. Are we going to pay them all that time till they produce? Why not go after juniors seniors and grad guys who have shown they can produce.

Outside of jenkins who are we paying a nice bag to in order to come back? Im sure this may change in march but i dont see anybody who deserves much.

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Theory is you get kids out of prep, perhaps those you wouldn’t have gotten in the past but are now more attainable because better programs or programs with more resources are hitting up the portal more regularly, and then you develop those kids to the point where they will stay as long as you are remotely competitive in the NIL department. That they don’t necessarily have a foot out the door or chase the highest dollar because they like the staff, school, etc and believe long term staying is best for their career, because they all think they are playing somewhere professionally.

It’s not a crazy thought, but that’s where Sha and the staff come in to identify, develop, and retain these kids by making them think the Hall is the best option even if not offering the most $.

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JTSHU said:

Do u want freshman anymore? Especially the quality we get. The best teams can get freshman who produce 1st and 2nd year. We have to wait till they are juniors. Are we going to pay them all that time till they produce? Why not go after juniors seniors and grad guys who have shown they can produce.

Outside of jenkins who are we paying a nice bag to in order to come back? Im sure this may change in march but i dont see anybody who deserves much.

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Sha will petition the NCAA to give Wusu a 7th year

JTSHU said:

Do u want freshman anymore? Especially the quality we get. The best teams can get freshman who produce 1st and 2nd year. We have to wait till they are juniors. Are we going to pay them all that time till they produce? Why not go after juniors seniors and grad guys who have shown they can produce.

Outside of jenkins who are we paying a nice bag to in order to come back? Im sure this may change in march but i dont see anybody who deserves much.

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Jenkins is a fifth-year senior. He won't be back.

MooneyHall07 said:

I think you are correct. From the SHU Record Book:

FEWEST POINTS ALLOWED

1. 12 vs. Saint Peter’s, 1/21/42
2. 15 vs. Maryland, 12/30/41
3. 16 vs. Cathedral, 11/27/15
4. 18 vs. Rutgers, 1/9/43
5. 19 vs. West Chester State, 12/2/40
6. 20 vs. Rider, 2/17/47
7. 22 vs. St. Francis (PA), 2/5/41
9. 22 vs. Loyola (MD), 2/2/40
9. 23 vs. Scranton, 1/23/42
10. 26 vs. Rider, 1/6/41, 26 vs. Illinois Wesleyan, 1/4/41
11. 3 games tied at 27

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Impressive research. Where is all that data posted? Is it on shupirates,com?

JTSHU said:

Thats what worried me w zion. Not.the best past

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Kid still fighting his Demons so it is a bit understandable --Dual is more than mystery

Bill Maher says all he wants in his water is water if he chooses to want fluoride he will brush his teeth.

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stipe65 said:

Why is Addae-Wusu playing the point, even when Jenkins is on the floor? Not his fault be he has no idea how to run an offense. Shaheen said we are down 2 point guards - who are they and will they rescue Addae? Can’t score 60 points or shoot free throws, so defense is not going to do it with better competition. That said, defense was very good and Toumi should start. 2nd most talented guy on the team.

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Stipe65 --Agree with most of what you write but not about Toumi --in fact I am shocked he got an assist awarded.

How many shots did Wagner have that should have gone down but spun out? It looked a lot like the way we usually shoot! ---But I'll take it. Granted it was Wagner, but the offence looked a little better (notice I said a LITTLE)

IronKaz1 said:

Wagner scored more pts vs RU and SJU so

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Maybe they thought they only needed 28 points to beat us. Serves them right

Thats what worried me w zion. Not.the best past

Injury?

Do u want freshman anymore? Especially the quality we get. The best teams can get freshman who produce 1st and 2nd year. We have to wait till they are juniors. Are we going to pay them all that time till they produce? Why not go after juniors seniors and grad guys who have shown they can produce.

Outside of jenkins who are we paying a nice bag to in order to come back? Im sure this may change in march but i dont see anybody who deserves much.

Carino says Dual and Harmon out indefinitely.

If u watch uconn their offense is dizzying to watch. So many cuts and movement

jack 1970 said:

Could this be the beginning of the end for Dual and Zion?Hope we didn't pay them all the NIL $$ up front!

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The Sha Doghouse has now become a Dog Pound

has any d1 team this century been held to a lower point total in a game than wagner was today? I think the answer is no.

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Thanks for clearing that up Sha.

they all got "some things going on" aka checked out already

SOpirate said:

I think 8-3 with a win @ Rutgers would be enough to keep post season hope alive. Good news is there should be plenty of opportunities for quality wins in conference play.

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I think it would depend who that third loss is to - Oklahoma State doesn't seem like they are any good, so I don't know what we are getting if we win that game (and it is must win now IMO) and a loss might hurt too. I suppose if it was someone that projects to be solid like VCU in Charleston it wouldn't be an issue if we win at Rutgers, but then we need to do real serious damage in the Big East.

Last year we didn't have any horrific OOC losses. We didn't have any good OOC wins, either, but we had no losses like these past 2. And look what it took for us to do in conference play to even get where we ultimately landed on the bubble.

Getting ahead of myself though, because with this group it will literally be one game at a time IMO.

PJVegas said:

Good D or just playing offensively challenged teams?

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Today was outstanding D very active rotation and filling in the gaps. Quick hands and length. Every shot was challenged. Yes it will probably be a different story with better teams but let's give the D props today..