Terrible game and effort at Creighton. So, third place is probably out. Creighton is 12-6 with two games left (Marquette and @Villanova) They win one and they have third place unless SHU win the 3 remaining games(@UConn, Villanova and DePaul). I guess Creighton could lose both.

Seton Hall will be no worse than 5th place by beating Depaul. That would make 12 conference wins. We know that either Providence or Villanova will have at least 9 losses because they play each other on Saturday. Should both teams lose one game each and Seton Hall beats DePaul, then SHU get 4th. Seton Hall is also guaranteed 4th place by beating Villanova and DePaul.

The Villanova game is now humungous for SHU. There is now a more realistic chance for SJU to be the opponent in the 4/5 game. SJU has two easy games (at DePaul and GTown). Beating Butler tonight convincingly has them playing their best basketball of the season. Beating them for the third time in a refed up MSG is not the best scenario. SJU has the tiebreaker over Villanova. Providence may have the tiebreaker over SJU at the moment? Providence seems like a more favorable matchup at this point. That Nova game could be The Hall's chance to get this bid. It's that simple.

Let’s go!!!🏴‍☠️🏴‍☠️🏴‍☠️

By Zach Braziller

INDIANAPOLIS — Rick Pitino is sounding the alarm — the transfer portal alarm.

Get ready for free agency the day after Selection Sunday, when the portal opens and players switch schools like everyone else changes clothes.

It’s coming.

“You’re going to see what I’m talking about the day after Selection Sunday, you’re going to see it,” the Hall of Fame coach predicted prior to St. John’s 82-59 win over Butler on Wednesday. “It’s going to get to the point, somebody’s going to take them [the NCAA] to court that they want to transfer mid-semester to play.

“I didn’t play Peyton Siva or Russ Smith as freshmen [at Louisville]. I think Peyton played a few minutes. We developed them into a national championship team, so the thing that’s disturbed me so much is what’s going on and I don’t like this talk, even amongst my [coaching staff], about, ‘OK, let’s look at this player from this school or this school right now because I hear they’re going in the portal.’ I just hate that.”

The landscape of college basketball changed in the spring of 2021, when the NCAA began allowing undergraduate players to transfer once without having to sit out a season.

Initially, players who wanted to transfer a second time had to sit out a year unless they were graduates.

Then, in December, a federal judge overrode the NCAA rule for the current year amid several states suing the NCAA, alleging the rule was in violation of federal antitrust law.

It remains uncertain what will happen next season in regards to multiple transfers who aren’t graduates, but the general thinking is that players will not have to sit out at all.

St. John’s figures to be active in the transfer portal, as starters Daniss Jenkins, Joel Soriano, Jordan Dingle and Chris Ledlum are out of eligibility.

The hope is Pitino can keep his young core of sophomores RJ Luis and Zuby Ejiofor and freshmen Brady Dunlap and Simeon Wilcher together, and build around them.

But there are no guarantees.

If a certain school values a player more than his current school, that could lead to an unexpected departure in the Name, Image & Likeness (NIL) era.

The new normal is that continuity is rare.

College rosters will have vastly different looks season to season.

“You know why when I say, this is the unhappiest I’ve been in a season, you know why?” Pitino said. “It wasn’t because of that [Seton Hall] game, I was very calm at that press conference. It’s because of the state of college basketball.

“It’s not the game I’ve loved for 50 years, 48 years, whatever it may be.”

He later added: “I hated the fact that every single good player in the MAAC got poached to go to a different place. It’s just very disappointing for me, and a lot of the coaches [Mike Krzyzewski, Roy Williams, Jim Boeheim and Jay Wright] have gotten out because of that, not necessarily NIL. I’ve been throwing things out, like make them employees, make them sign contracts, just trying to come up with something, but I listened to the president of the NCAA the other day.

“And he said can you put something in to stop people from transferring twice? His response was, no, coaches leave whenever they want. But coaches have contracts, and coaches have to pay $3 million, $4 million, $20 million if they want to leave. I just think it’s very, very difficult to do what I’ve done for 35, 40 years, make players better, build them up, have them back.”

Nobody went 5-0 for the second straight session as all but one player picked Creighton over St. John's, and the one who didn't picked Butler over The Hall. 16 of our 19 remaining players went 4-1, but one of those surprisingly was not our leader, @GrMtWoods, who went 3-2 for the second consecutive session. As a result, the lead is down to three games with 20 to play (four sessions). @vegaspaul82 stays in second alone at 73-17 and inches a game closer to the lead. Five players are tied for third at 72-18.


Tuesday, February 27

Georgetown (9-18, 2-14) @ Villanova (15-12, 8-8) - 6:30 PM - FS1 - The Finn/Villanova


Wednesday, February 28

DePaul (3-24, 0-16) @ Xavier (13-14, 7-9) - 7:00 PM - FS2 - Cintas/Cincy

Providence (18-9, 9-7) @ #5 Marquette (21-6, 12-4) - 7:00 PM - FS1 - Fiserv/Milwaukee

St. John's (16-12, 8-9) @ Butler (15-12, 7-10) - 8:30 PM - CBSSN - Hinkle/Indy

SETON HALL (18-9, 11-5) @ #12 Creighton (20-8, 11-6) - 9:00 PM - FS1 - CHI/Omaha

Are in decline. Many causes but not a good thing for the communities. It’s states it’s temporary but the underlying reasons are common and seldom reversed.

Amazing this team is 18-9, 11-5 and likely an NCAA Tournament team with this natural disparity from 3 in this day and age. We've sat through many games like last night this season where we're clearly outplaying a team but the arc undermines us. Other games it's burnt us.

Through 27 games SHU is 150/475 from 3 compared to 225/671 for the opponents. We've been outscored by 225 points in 27 games, that's more than 8 per game. In BE games, it's almost exactly the same, 88/272 to 132/406 over 16 games, just over -8 point differential per game.

Overall as a team The Hall is 326th in 3PA:FGA, 338th in point % from 3 (opponents are 27th), and 285th in 3PT shooting %. And then when you realize what Dawes does alone, it's remarkable.

Michigan Wolverines​

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TEAM INFO​

ACC
Pac-12
Big Ten

Those three leagues may get as little as 3 or 4 at large bids each

SEC
Big 12

May get as many as 6 or 7 at large bids each

AAC
Mountain West

Will be interesting to see how at large candidates are viewed in these two leagues

Also, hope that the teams with best records in some lesser leagues win their tournament

Win this game and your ticket is punched.

That said, the Pirate will have to be careful because McDermott, the clone of Jay Wright, will keep his starters in the entire game regardless of the score.

Creighton 79
Seton Hall 69

The Hall closes the game with a 9-0 run to improve to 8-9 in BIG EAST play.

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PROVIDENCE, R.I. – Azana Baines (Blackwood, N.J.) scored 12 of her game-high 22 points in the fourth quarter as the Seton Hall women's basketball team outlasted Providence, 71-65, in its final road game of the regular season on Wednesday.

The Hall trailed 65-62 with 3:03 remaining in the game, but finished the game with a 9-0 run. A three-pointer by Sha'Lynn Hagans (Manassas, Va.) with 1:27 left to play broke a 65-65 tie and the Pirates never trailed again.

Providence stayed in the game thanks largely to its three-point shooting. The Friars entered the contest averaging a BIG EAST-low 4.3 made three-pointers per game, but erupted for nine tonight against the Pirates.

In all, five Pirates scored at least nine points, led by Baines. Hagans finished with 13, while Kae Satterfield (New York, N.Y.) added 12 points and a team-best eight rebounds. Amari Wright (Jacksonville, Fla.), returning from injury, had nine points, as did Brazil Harvey-Carr (Camden, N.J.).

THE STORY:
Providence made their first five shots, including a pair of three-pointers to race out to a 13-7 start. The Hall, however, bounced back with a 9-2 run, and a rebound and put-back by Makennah White (Farrell, Pa.) gave the Pirates their first lead of the game, 16-15, with 3:19 left in the first quarter. Seton Hall took a 21-18 lead after the first 10 minutes.

Leading 24-22, The Hall went on an 8-2 run, and a three-pointer by Baines gave it a 31-24 advantage with 6:29 left before halftime. The Friars responded, however, with a 9-2 spurt to close the half and force a 33-33 tie at the half. Seton Hall was just 3-for-11 in the second quarter and were held without a made field goal for the final 6:29. The Hall out-rebounded and forced more turnovers than the Friars in the first half, but shot only 32.4 percent, compared to 50 percent for Providence.

In the third quarter, a three-pointer by Harvey-Carr gave The Hall a 46-40 advantage, but Providence took the lead with a 9-0 run on three made three-pointers in three of the next four possessions.

Baines tried to single-handedly will the Pirates to a victory in the fourth, scoring 12 of her team-best 22 points in the final 10 minutes. With the score tied at 65, Hagans hit a dagger three-pointer from the corner in front of the jubilant Seton Hall bench with only 1:27 to play. The Hall was able to ice the game on the free-throw line.

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THE NUMBERS:

• Seton Hall was 27-for-65 (41.5%) from the floor for the game, while Providence was 24-for-58 (41.4%). The Hall was 7-for-26 (26.9%) from three-point range, while the Friars were 9-for-28 (32.1%).
• Baines had a game-high 22 points on 10-for-16 shooting to go with five rebounds.
• The Hall out-rebounded Providence, 39-to-34, which included a 14-to-8 edge on the offensive glass and a 12-to-9 advantage in second-chance points.
• Hagans had 13 points to go with three assists.
• Seton Hall was 10-for-16 (62.5%) from the free-throw line, while Providence was 8-for-11 (72.7%).
• Satterfield finished with 12 points, a team-high eight rebounds and two steals.
• Seton Hall forced 13 turnovers, while the Friars forced eight. The Hall had a 12-to-10 edge in points-off-turnovers.
• Wright tallied nine points, was perfect from the floor, and five rebounds.
• The Pirates had 36 points in the paint, compared to 24 for Providence.
• Harvey-Carr finished with nine points on three made three-pointers to go with three rebounds.

THE NOTES:

• Seton Hall improves to 16-12 overall and 8-9 in conference games, while Providence drops to 12-18 overall and 6-11 in the BIG EAST.
• With the victory, the Pirates know they will be either the six seed or the seven seed in next week's BIG EAST Tournament. A victory over Creighton on Sunday ensures the six seed. A loss and a Georgetown victory at Xavier gives The Hall the seven seed. If both teams win or lose, Seton Hall will be the six seed by virtue of its winning tie-breaker over Georgetown.
• The Hall is now 46-31 all-time against Providence and has won nine of the last 10 games in the series.
• For the 20th time in 28 games, Seton Hall forced more turnovers than its opponent.
• Baines reached at least 20 points for the fifth time this season and the ninth time in her career.
• With a steals tonight, Wright moved into a tie with Leslie Ardon for 20th place on Seton Hall's career list with 149.
• Wright made her return to the court after missing the last two games due to injury.
• This was only the second time this season that the Pirates have been tied at the half.
• Seton Hall's win tonight guarantees a winning season for the eighth time in 11 years with Head Coach Anthony Bozzella at the helm.

UP NEXT:
Seton Hall will return to action on Sunday, March 3 when it hosts BIG EAST rival Creighton on Senior Day. The game is also The Hall's regular season finale. The contest will be nationally televised on FS1 with Gary Apple and Julianne Viani on the call. Tip-time is scheduled for 3:00 p.m. ET.

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Omaha, Neb. - No. 12 Creighton proved to be too much offensively for Seton Hall as the Bluejays rode 41 percent shooting from three-point range to an 85-64 win over the Pirates Wednesday night at CHI Health Center Omaha.

Dre Davis (Indianapolis, Ind.) finished as the team's leader with 18 points and eight rebounds. Kadary Richmond (Brooklyn, N.Y.) added 15 points and four assists for the Pirates (18-10, 11-6 BIG EAST).

The Hall, who had won three straight and five of six entering Wednesday, drop to fourth place in the BIG EAST standings.

How It Happened

Creighton jumped on the Pirates early as the Bluejays led 9-2 at the 16:21 mark in the first half. A Jaden Bediako (Brampton, Ontario) layup off of a feed from Richmond made it a five-point game before the under 16 media timeout. The Pirates forced a missed three-pointer on their next defensive possession and Davis followed that stop with a fadeaway jumper that cut The Hall's deficit to three, 9-6.

Dawes' lone made three of the game made it a three-point game again, 14-11, with 9:47 left before halftime but the Bluejays used an 11-0 run that extended their lead 25-11. Creighton led by as much as 20 in the first half but back-to-back baskets made by Dylan Addae-Wusu (Bronx, N.Y.) and Al-Amir Dawes (Newark, N.J.) at the end of the first trimmed the Pirates' deficit to 16, 38-22.

Seton Hall battled in the second half but Creighton's offense proved to be too potent as the Bluejays had an answer each time down the floor. A Richmond layup with 17:04 left to play made it a 17-point game, 45-28, before Creighton rattled off 10 straight points that ballooned their lead to 27, 55-28, their largest lead of the game

Inside The Box Score

• Seton Hall shot 42 percent from the field but allowed Creighton to shoot 54 percent from the field and 41 percent from three (13-of-32).
• The Pirates committed 13 turnovers but they also forced 15 miscues.
• Creighton had the slight edge in points off turnovers, 17-16.
• The Bluejays finished with a 35-38 edge on the glass but the Pirates finished with nine offensive rebounds to Creighton's eight.
• Creighton dished out 20 assists.
• Down two scholarship players due to illness, the Pirates dressed nine scholarship players Wednesday night.

News & Notes

• Seton Hall is now 16-14 all-time against Creighton and the Bluejays have won four straight in the series.
• Davis now has 987 career points after his 18-point outing and Addae-Wusu is now up to 965 career points.
• Richmond is up to 978 points as a Pirate.

Up Next

The Pirates will continue its tough road swing on Sunday as they travel to Storrs, Conn. to take on No. 3 UConn at 12 p.m. on CBS.

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QUEENS, N.Y. (Feb. 2, 2024) – For the second-straight season, Joel Soriano has been named a top-10 candidate for the Naismith Memorial Basketball Hall of Fame’s Kareem Abdul-Jabbar Center of the Year, as announced on Friday.

St. John’s 6-foot-11 center is averaging 16.6 points and has scored double figures in 20 of 21 appearances this season. Soriano has also delivered eight 20-point performances this season, including recent back-to-back 21-point showings against Villanova and Xavier. The Yonkers, N.Y., native has also shot 63.1 percent from the field, which ranks 14th in the nation.

On the glass, Soriano has been a force averaging 10.0 rebounds (13th in NCAA), including 4.0 offensive boards (8th in NCAA) per game. The Johnnies’ center has led the team in rebounding in 13 games this season. Soriano also ranks among the nation’s best with 11 double-doubles (9th in NCAA) and has totaled 36 over his last 56 appearances at St. John’s.

Earlier this season, Soriano reached career milestones with 1,000 career points and 1,000 career rebounds. He also became the 53rd player in program history to score 1,000 points in a St. John’s uniform.

The Red Storm’s captain joins fellow BIG EAST bigs on the list in UConn’s Donovan Clingan and Creighton’s Ryan Kalkbrenner.

Fan voting will opens today. Fans can vote for their favorite players in each of the rounds. The top player selections from the fan vote will get an additional vote towards making the next round.

This list will be narrowed down to five in March with the winner to be announced towards the end of the season at the Final Four in Phoenix.

Kareem Abdul-Jabbar Center of the Year Award Top 10

NAME SCHOOL

Johni Broome Auburn
Armando Bacot UNC
Branden Carlson Utah
Donovan Clingan UConn
Hunter Dickinson Kansas
Zach Edey Purdue
Dawson Garcia Minnesota
PJ Hall Clemson
Ryan Kalkbrenner Creighton
Joel Soriano St. John’s

Game 28: Creighton Bluejays (20-8, 11-6 BIG EAST) vs. Seton Hall Pirates (18-9, 11-5 BIG EAST)
Wednesday, Feb. 28 • Omaha, Neb. • CHI Health Center Omaha (17,352)) • 9 p.m.
TV: FS1 • Matt Schumacker & Donny Marshall
Web: FOXSports.com/Live
Radio: SHU Pirates Mobile App / Pirate Sports Network / SiriusXM 383 / SXM App / Dave Popkin
Game Notes: Seton Hall | Creighton
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Notes You Need To Know

• Winners of three straight and five of its last six games, the Seton Hall men's basketball team enters a tough stretch as it goes on the road to play two top-15 teams starting with No. 12 Creighton at 9 p.m. on Wednesday in Omaha.
• Picked to finish ninth out of 11 teams in the BIG EAST preseason poll, the Pirates are in sole possession of third place in the BIG EAST standings at 11-5 and they're one game ahead of Creighton in the loss column.
• The Pirates are 8-7 vs. Q1 + Q2 opponents this season after picking up a Q2 win against Xavier on Feb. 14, a Q1 road win at St. John's on Feb. 18 and a Q2 win over Butler on Feb. 24.
• Seton Hall has posted at least 10 BIG EAST wins the last nine seasons, the longest stretch in program history.
• Seton Hall's nine 10-win seasons since realignment in 2013-14 is tied for second in the BIG EAST:

10+ BIG EAST Win Seasons since 2013-14
1. Villanova - 10
2. Seton Hall - 8
Creighton - 8
Providence - 8
5. Marquette - 5

• Seton Hall is one of only 22 teams in Division I and one of five BIG EAST teams (UConn, Creighton, Marquette, Providence) with at least five Quad 1 wins.
• The Hall's five Q1 victories are more than 39 teams that are ranked ahead of the Pirates in the NET.
• Seton Hall is one of 18 teams in the country with multiple wins over top 10 teams.
• The Pirates lead the all-time series against Creighton, 16-13, but the Bluejays have won the last three meetings.
• The two teams played only the seventh game to reach three overtimes in BIG EAST history on Jan. 20 when Creighton came out on top, 97-94.
• After posting the best season by a first-year head coach in program history, Shaheen Holloway is once again raising the bar for Seton Hall head coaches as he approaches two milestones for second-year head coaches in South Orange.
• Seton Hall's win over St. John's on Feb. 18 tied Holloway with Kevin Willard for most wins by a Seton Hall head coach in his first two seasons.
• The Pirates' 76-70 win over Georgetown on Feb. 7 gave Holloway 18 BIG EAST victories as head coach at Seton Hall, the most in program history for a head coach in his first two seasons:

Most Wins Most BIG EAST Wins
1. Shaheen Holloway (2022-24) - 35 1. Shaheen Holloway - 21
2. Kevin Willard (2010-12) - 34 2. Tommy Amaker - 17
3. Tommy Amaker (1997-99) - 30 3. Louis Orr (2001-03) - 15
Richie Regan (1960-62) - 30 Kevin Willard - 15

• Holloway is one of only eight coaches in BIG EAST history to win 10 BIG EAST games in each of his first two seasons, joining Bob Huggins (West Virginia), Jamie Dixon (Pitt), Mike Brey (Notre Dame), Paul Evans (Pitt), Buzz Williams (Marquette), Mike Jarvis (St. John's) and Chris Holtmann (Butler).
• Kadary Richmond was one of 40 Div. I players named to the Oscar Robertson Trophy and All-America Watch List on Tuesday.
• Since Richmond's return to the lineup at DePaul on Jan. 30, the Pirates have gone 5-1 and he's posted three 20-point games and two double-doubles in wins over Xavier and St. John's.
• Dre Davis is making a case for being the BIG EAST's Most Improved Player of the Year as he's gone from averaging 18.8 minutes and 9.6 points per game last season to 31.6 minutes to 14.0 points per game this season.
• Jaden Bediako ranks second in the BIG EAST and seventh in Division I averaging 3.9 offensive rebounds per game.
• The Pirates are 16-4 this season when Al-Amir Dawes scores in double figures and 7-2 when he's the team's leading scorer.

Popped up in my memories today that we beat X in 2016, someone else just posted we beat Creighton 9 years ago today. Maybe just maybe luck is on our side tonight.

Jerry carino says coleman and nganga out with illness

Was a SHU grad in early 50s...big career with Aaron Spelling

he was lights out the entire 4th and won the game for his team

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Our start time won’t be delayed by a drawn out close game.

Well, it took nearly all season but the Pirates have finally moved into the 8th spot in Kenpom. Barely.

Last night's double digit beatdown of Butler has vaulted the Pirate's past the Bulldogs by a whopping 2 spots.

Next up will be Providence, 3 spots ahead of the Pirates and then in order Xavier (8 spots), St John's (12 spots) and Villanova (22 spots)

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Here's a look at my post back in mid Oct.

At the end it also included comments a couple of days later on the Blue/White scrimmage