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There are many issues. The mass shootings normally are people who have mental health issues. But criminals may or may not have such issues. Just easy access to guns. We need a national data base that tracks every gun and the transfer of each gun. Whoever does not report the transfer of the gun, and that gun is used in a commission of a crime, then the last registered gun owner is criminally and civilly. responsible. So from Gun manufacturer, to dealer to retail purchaser, the chain should never be broke.

Yes a database should be obvious. Every single car in this country is tracked, why not guns!
 
The schools have spent only 7% of the billions they received 2 years ago in pandemic money supposedly needed to improve ventilation.Why not fund a guard in each school who is armed wearing long garment so gun is hidden so doesn’t scare some kids.Most of these shooters are born cowards who are not to mental that they would not shy away from a hard target
 
The schools have spent only 7% of the billions they received 2 years ago in pandemic money supposedly needed to improve ventilation.Why not fund a guard in each school who is armed wearing long garment so gun is hidden so doesn’t scare some kids.Most of these shooters are born cowards who are not to mental that they would not shy away from a hard target

Accoridng to ABC News he killed the school resource officer who was armed.

In the Topps shooting in Buffalo the armed guard was also killed.
 
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Exactly. I hope everyone is calling their representarive today demanding this. Im sick of seeing kids murdered!

Enough is enough!

Politicians can't fix this. The community as a whole has to. It will be a long process.
 
The 2 columbine killers planned to escape but killed the themselves when they opened the door and saw swat in the distance.Armed guards can’t solve all attacks but can be a deterrent.
 
Agreed but by the states, like cars, not by the federal government.
If you don't have.a national database, It is sort of worthless. One would have to do a search of 50 databases?

It should be like the Convicted Offenders Data Base which stores DNA profiles. The individual states have their statewide database but they are all uploaded to the national database.

all info should be included in this data base including ballistics. this would match an unknown projectile with a firearm.
 
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There are many issues. The mass shootings normally are people who have mental health issues. But criminals may or may not have such issues. Just easy access to guns. We need a national data base that tracks every gun and the transfer of each gun. Whoever does not report the transfer of the gun, and that gun is used in a commission of a crime, then the last registered gun owner is criminally and civilly. responsible. So from Gun manufacturer, to dealer to retail purchaser, the chain should never be broke.

We certainly have the technology to implement that.

IMO, it would not violate 2nd Amendment.

It would have some impact but would not completely eliminate these events.
 
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If you don't have.a national database, It is sort of worthless. One would have to do a search of 50 databases?

It should be like the Convicted Offenders Data Base which stores DAN profiles. The individual states have their statewide database but they are all uploaded to the national database.

all info should be included in this data base including ballistics. this would match an unknown projectile with a firearm.
I’d be OK with that, feds having read access only.
 
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DC, deleware, alaska all have low population and will rank low on anything that can be contributed to low volume phenomenon. probably need to plant both metrics on a scatter if you really wanted to go that route
Do you understand what per capita means??
 
But its a massive part of the problem. We can and should tackle the guns and the mental aspect. Until people are honest and admit that than nothing will change.

How about the following:
- Raise age to 21 in order to buy a gun(Young men are shooting up schools. Its not adults doing these school shootings)
- Mandatory classes in order to buy certain class of firearm (think CDL, realtor, etc.)

While there will always be illegal ways to get them as well, we can make it harder legally. If you're a responsible gun owner I dont see why these would be a problem.

I agree and would take it a step further.

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Include mental health and medication records added to NICS for the background check.

I'd waive for the 21 year age limit for current and ex police and military honorably discharged.
 
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Can’t believe those “Gun Free Zone” signs didn’t work here.

The well deserved sarcasm is noted.

Those signs make some people feel like they are doing something. Good intent but useless.

An immediate solution would be to harden the schools and have armed guards. We protect banks, courthouses, jewelry stores, etc. We should protect our children. It may not stop it all but there would be an impact. You don't see too many mass hooting in banks.

There was a decent amount of discussion on this topic with the morning talking heads.
 
To ignore the root causes of the evil acts is also irresponsible. We always say follow the science. The question is always also what is different about the U.S.. Why do these people feel socially disengaged and not care about human life especially their own? Why not find the common threads of these assassins' and deal with them as a society? Here is something that is dramatically different. Family connection is certainly not the only root cause, but if we are honest, we would assess and acknowledge that it's probably a contributing factor. Young kids that are disconnected, with social media filling that gap with easy access to a weapon is a bad formula.

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-ta...other-countries-to-live-with-just-one-parent/
One thing that would help, would be to stop incarcerating so many people. Incarceration takes parents away from their kids. And we do it more than any other country.
*While the United States represents about 4.2 percent of the world's population, it houses around 20 percent of the world's prisoners.*
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unite...l prison and,percent of the world's prisoners.
 
I agree and would take it a step further.

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Include mental health and medication records added to NICS for the background check.

I'd waive for the 21 year age limit for current and ex police and military honorably discharged.

Good adds ans I agree with waiving that.
 
Apparently this psycho bought his guns through a federally licensed dealer and therefore passed the background check. While all gun sales should be subject to a background check, it seems like that won't stop many.

The other solution is to ban certain guns, magazines, and number of magazines but that will never pass, can't punish law-abiding citizens for the actions (and while devastating) of a very, very, very few.
 
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Do you understand what per capita means??
yea. thats why they skew high. do you understand what it means? lmao. if one happens in wyoming all of a sudden its #1. neither metric tells the true story on its own.
 
One thing that would help, would be to stop incarcerating so many people. Incarceration takes parents away from their kids. And we do it more than any other country.
*While the United States represents about 4.2 percent of the world's population, it houses around 20 percent of the world's prisoners.*
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_incarceration_rate#:~:text=State and federal prison and,percent of the world's prisoners.
I live in Brooklyn with my wife and two daughters, my immediate concern is the day to day shootings. We just visited friends in Hasting-On-Hudson who moved out of Brooklyn in October because he and his 2 year old son were walking on the sidewalk, ahead of them he watched two kids surround and execute another kid, one of the gunman ran back by them as my friend covered up his son. That was enough for them. They moved, they can work remotely. https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/25/nyregion/nyc-gun-violence-children.html
 
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I live in Brooklyn with my wife and two daughters, my immediate concern is the day to day shootings. We just visited friends in Hasting-On-Hudson who moved out of Brooklyn in October because he and his 2 year old son were walking on the sidewalk, ahead of them he watched two kids surround and execute another kid, one of the gunman ran back by them as my friend covered up his son. That was enough for them. They moved, they can work remotely. https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/25/nyregion/nyc-gun-violence-children.html
So help me understand your two posts. On the one hand you present data that we incarcerate too many people, but on the other hand you are suggesting that the streets in NYC aren't safe because there are too many criminals. I agree that incarceration rates are a good topic to analyze if we are an outlier. But if we tighten up bail reform and tighten laws on illegal guns and the use of them in a commission of a crime, we know what the result is going to be. Just looking for some clarification on your points.
 
So help me understand your two posts. On the one hand you present data that we incarcerate too many people, but on the other hand you are suggesting that the streets in NYC aren't safe because there are too many criminals. I agree that incarceration rates are a good topic to analyze if we are an outlier. But if we tighten up bail reform and tighten laws on illegal guns and the use of them in a commission of a crime, we know what the result is going to be. Just looking for some clarification on your points.
agree with this. the latest brooklyn guy apparently had a bunch of crimes prior to that. hes a criminal but free from incarceration. howd that turn out?
 
One thing that would help, would be to stop incarcerating so many people. Incarceration takes parents away from their kids. And we do it more than any other country.
*While the United States represents about 4.2 percent of the world's population, it houses around 20 percent of the world's prisoners.*
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_incarceration_rate#:~:text=State and federal prison and,percent of the world's prisoners.
Why would not incarcerating people help? In my opinion the pendulum has swung wildly to this non-incarceration movement. I do not think crime is on the rise due to this movement along with bail reform which keeps more criminals out on the street awaiting trial instead of being locked up.
 
I live in Brooklyn with my wife and two daughters, my immediate concern is the day to day shootings. We just visited friends in Hasting-On-Hudson who moved out of Brooklyn in October because he and his 2 year old son were walking on the sidewalk, ahead of them he watched two kids surround and execute another kid, one of the gunman ran back by them as my friend covered up his son. That was enough for them. They moved, they can work remotely. https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/25/nyregion/nyc-gun-violence-children.html

So why would you want to reduce the incarceration rate and have more people like that roaming the streets?
 
So help me understand your two posts. On the one hand you present data that we incarcerate too many people, but on the other hand you are suggesting that the streets in NYC aren't safe because there are too many criminals. I agree that incarceration rates are a good topic to analyze if we are an outlier. But if we tighten up bail reform and tighten laws on illegal guns and the use of them in a commission of a crime, we know what the result is going to be. Just looking for some clarification on your points.
we're taking about mental health, not bail reform. Incarcerating people destroys family and creates an unstable family environment which causes teens to act out. I'm pointing out that there is gun violence everyday, not just when there's a mass shooting all over the news. https://www.ojp.gov/ncjrs/virtual-l...s-violent-crime-breakdown-marriage-family-and
 
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