Another Texas school shooting
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Steve Kerr is a left wing political activist. He should stick to basketball as it isn't his job to comment on these issues while representing his employer. An embarrassing display.
Or he’s an American citizen exercising his 1st Amendment rights
https://www.statista.com/statistics...eholds-in-the-united-states-owning-a-firearm/
interesting that the number of households owning at least one gun has been pretty static over the last 50 years…now at 42% down from 47% over 30 years ago.
….another story today that 70% of mass school shootings since 1999 were committed by males 18 years old or younger.
https://www.insider.com/seven-ten-us-school-shooters-known-ages-children-under-18-2022-5
interesting that the number of households owning at least one gun has been pretty static over the last 50 years…now at 42% down from 47% over 30 years ago.
….another story today that 70% of mass school shootings since 1999 were committed by males 18 years old or younger.
https://www.insider.com/seven-ten-us-school-shooters-known-ages-children-under-18-2022-5
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He can have his opinion on anything he wants. As I said, it isn't his job to be spouting that opinion while representing his employer.
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Im no Kerr fan but he has every right to comment on it. You seem to think life should all go on with no changes while we wait for the next group of kids to be massacred.
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Or maybe, just maybe his employer doesn’t have a problem with it
Given that his employer plays in the most liberal city in America, he's probably exactly what they want. Sadly you're right.
well, i think theres probably some good that could be done with a platform. it definitely comes across as "im so important" most the time.
but ill ask you again, what did he say that you disagree with?
he says society is the one that can change things yet rejects when popular figures use a platform to spread that message. they gets the eyes and ears of society.
sometimes its too much, and too disingenious.
A decade ago, a classroom full of dead first graders didn't change anything. Not a damn thing. If that didn't do it, nothing will. Certainly not this.
Based on cold numbers, Sandyhook and Vegas were bigger tragedies. Columbine was obviously more shocking at the time. No one, absolutely no one, who is honest with themselves, is surprised by this - it's more predictable than your average romantic comedy.
It's not even the "new normal". This has been our "normal" for quite some time. Of course this was going to happen....again. And you know what? This will also be forgotten. Weren't we just starting to(if not fully) forget about Buffalo?
The people in power already know this, and in the meantime are enjoying the $$$ and power that came when they sold their souls....all in the name of defending our rights.
They give obligatory, broken record responses like "thoughts and prayers", and "our hearts go out to...", and maybe, just maybe, shed some crocodile tears if they're good actors/actresses. But they know no change is coming. They are confident, and with good reason. Rinse and repeat for the next inevitable massacre.
Point Blank: We Reap What We Sow.
This country drank it's poison/took it's pill long ago. We're not going to change now. We, as a country, already decided that our rights and our fetish for semi and automatic weapons are more important than the lives of our children. Let's just be honest about that. Can't we? We can and should call a spade a spade, right?
Let's also acknowledge the fact it's in the interest of enough of our elected leaders that there be no change, and they have chosen power and lining their pockets over the lives of our nation's children as well.
I'm not even a gun advocate, and I can feel the blood on my hands. I have to be totally honest here, I'm completely numb to it.
When these massacres happen, many people are quick to jump on the mental illness bandwagon as a defense mechanism. Heh, it's funny, because that mental illness probably goes much deeper and is much more widespread than they realize when they play that card. It's easy to just look at the shooter, and not ourselves.
"How long? How long must we sing this song?" It's already been decided: to the bitter end. Live with it.
Based on cold numbers, Sandyhook and Vegas were bigger tragedies. Columbine was obviously more shocking at the time. No one, absolutely no one, who is honest with themselves, is surprised by this - it's more predictable than your average romantic comedy.
It's not even the "new normal". This has been our "normal" for quite some time. Of course this was going to happen....again. And you know what? This will also be forgotten. Weren't we just starting to(if not fully) forget about Buffalo?
The people in power already know this, and in the meantime are enjoying the $$$ and power that came when they sold their souls....all in the name of defending our rights.
They give obligatory, broken record responses like "thoughts and prayers", and "our hearts go out to...", and maybe, just maybe, shed some crocodile tears if they're good actors/actresses. But they know no change is coming. They are confident, and with good reason. Rinse and repeat for the next inevitable massacre.
Point Blank: We Reap What We Sow.
This country drank it's poison/took it's pill long ago. We're not going to change now. We, as a country, already decided that our rights and our fetish for semi and automatic weapons are more important than the lives of our children. Let's just be honest about that. Can't we? We can and should call a spade a spade, right?
Let's also acknowledge the fact it's in the interest of enough of our elected leaders that there be no change, and they have chosen power and lining their pockets over the lives of our nation's children as well.
I'm not even a gun advocate, and I can feel the blood on my hands. I have to be totally honest here, I'm completely numb to it.
When these massacres happen, many people are quick to jump on the mental illness bandwagon as a defense mechanism. Heh, it's funny, because that mental illness probably goes much deeper and is much more widespread than they realize when they play that card. It's easy to just look at the shooter, and not ourselves.
"How long? How long must we sing this song?" It's already been decided: to the bitter end. Live with it.
And anyone else can opine on this being a stupid rant in that HR8 wouldn't have done anything to stop this.
And I agree that all gun transfers should go through a background check, but to repeat this again in case you are unwilling to listen, HR8 WOULD HAVE DONE NOTHING TO STOP THE UVALDE OR THE BUFFALO TRAGEDIES, both killers (a mind frame) passed federal background checks.
Incredibly dishonest post, automatic weapons are illegal. Let's just be honest about that.
1) It’s no laughing matter.
2) Bump stocks should be illegal. How many have been used in mass killings? They are not even made anymore.
Bump stock - Wikipedia
1) It’s no laughing matter.
2) Bump stocks should be illegal. How many have been used in mass killings? They are not even made anymore.
Bump stock - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
No, the laugh was indeed very genuine. However, it was a reaction to your nearsighted response, and not to yet another mass shooting. Let's get that straight, right?
I laughed because you chose to zero in on one sentence and miss the point entirely. You saw and focused on a pimple on a chin(one dubiously written phrase) and missed the full body(that we, as a country, have chosen guns over our youth). Focusing on one thing, while totally avoiding the argument is, I believe, a fallacy.
Your trying to hold me up on one technicality in my post, while badly missing the meaning, does not change my point. Hence, the laugh.
The bump stocks were eluded to as a reference as to how some semi automatic weapons can(and are) shortcut/retooled into essentially automatic weapons. Some of these methods are legal, some are not. But to not acknowledge this can, and does, go on is like sticking one's head in the sand....or just not caring. A semi automatic can do enough damage itself. Retooling them into fully automatic is a real problem we face, though I wouldn't dream of asking you to agree.
By all means though, let's continue to be intellectually dishonest, especially when there's money to be made and important rights to prioritize over the lives of children. Isn't that what we've been doing all along??
Talk about an intellectually dishonest fallacy, this is a giant one. Criminals and the mentally deranged (but I repeat myself) choose guns over our youth. See Chicago.
Ridiculous statements like that contribute to the rancor.
damn has there really been 27 school shootings this year? not to mention mass shootings.
really puts the full scale tasteless gun commercials from the republicans before the primary in an even worse light. texas is open carry, but that hasnt seemed to prevent any of their school shootings. it is however extremely easy to get a gun in that state.
at some point im starting to think theres a really simple step here that people are really adamant on fighting.
really puts the full scale tasteless gun commercials from the republicans before the primary in an even worse light. texas is open carry, but that hasnt seemed to prevent any of their school shootings. it is however extremely easy to get a gun in that state.
at some point im starting to think theres a really simple step here that people are really adamant on fighting.
Totally simplistic and dismissive of any authentic awareness.
Again, you're avoiding the point. I'm not asking what the criminals and the sick have chosen. We already know what they've chosen. That's the problem: we've known for a long time now.
People are not looking for a solution when they place all the blame on the individual - that's the easy excuse. For any real inventory to be taken or understanding to be had, we need to look at ourselves and our society, not just the people who pull the trigger.
At a certain point(news flash: this has happened many times, and continues to happen - a pattern), it becomes less about the crime and more about what we're doing about it. How we react to a pattern of massacres.
I'm not asking about what the perpetrators have chosen, but what have we chosen? What have our leaders chosen? What has our country chosen? So far, we've chosen we're by and large okay with it....because we've done next to nothing. It's a multifaceted problem we've had years to work on, and we've done squat. That's our collective choice.
And please, the "see Chicago" response is about as predictable and obligatory as it gets. Chicago is like the go to response to people who want to side step the issue.
Since you're not willing to even acknowledge that I'm asking these questions, this back and forth is pretty pointless.
See you next time a school gets lit up and we do absolutely nothing in the meantime. Hell, we could wait another decade and have the exact same conversation. That's what my initial post was getting at.
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wow texas governor is going to an NRA conference on friday. ita really odd the people who are quick to say this is being politicized are the ones who refuse, with a death defying grip to actually side even one time witht the democratic outlook. nope. cant remotely give any creedance to the other sides ideas, which are pretty common sense. have to somehow defend everything.
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I see your frustration but I think almost everyone on this thread who lean Republican (Pirata, Hall85, SPK, myself) wants change. The issue becomes the politicians who won't budge because they're at the beck and call of the NRA + the gun nuts who worship their guns. Just look at a few of the GOP house members that had their families holding rifles on their christmas cards. These are sick people, they won't budge.
Unfortunately, this is the state of politics today. Both sides dig in on issues and are unwilling to give. And there are certain issues, this being one of them that I don’t think anyone really wants to solve.
Of course they don’t. It’s all a waste of time to debate for us because the ones who matter don’t care. In the meantime guns, prescription drugs, recreational drugs, and alcohol are available to all. Seems to me the perfect combination to mess with the biochemistry of the brain and give people a weapon.
I hear the refrain that background checks would not have stopped this. Perhaps not. Maybe an assault weapon ban would not have stopped it. Perhaps not. But the fact is that these things make it more difficult and if that helps, then we should do it.
The argument that to ban assault weapons punishes the law abiding people doesn’t hold water. They can’t have a weapon to is just designed to kill people. They have other alternatives to go hunt and to provide home protection. An assault weapon ban is something that must be done. It’s not a feel good legislation, it helps. We must make little change by little change to make these events more difficult. We may never eliminate them. But to do nothing and sit back on an argument that nothing will help, is ridiculous.
It’s also incredible that the pro-life people don’t want to do anything to prevent people from dying once they are out of the wound.
The argument that to ban assault weapons punishes the law abiding people doesn’t hold water. They can’t have a weapon to is just designed to kill people. They have other alternatives to go hunt and to provide home protection. An assault weapon ban is something that must be done. It’s not a feel good legislation, it helps. We must make little change by little change to make these events more difficult. We may never eliminate them. But to do nothing and sit back on an argument that nothing will help, is ridiculous.
It’s also incredible that the pro-life people don’t want to do anything to prevent people from dying once they are out of the wound.
You say this and are you aware of how he lost his father?
Steve Kerr confuses me:
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While the NBA mulls over when basketball season can safely begin, Warriors Coach Steve Kerr says he’s using his free time to learn about racial issues and on Tuesday, he put his words into actions.
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Columbine: 18 year old and 17 year old shooters, students of the school
Red Lake: 16 year old shooter, former student of the school
Virginia Tech: 23 year old shooter, student at the school
Northern Illinois: 27 year old shooter, former student at the school
Oikos University: 43 year old shooter, former student at the school
Newtown: 20 year old shooter, former student at the school
Marysville: 15 year old shooter, student at the school
Umpqua: 26 year old shooter, student at the school
Parkland: 20 year old shooter, former student at the school
Santa Fe: 17 year old shooter, student at the school
Oxford: 15 year old shooter, student at the school
Uvalde: 18 year old shooter, student at local high school
These shooters are nearly all very young and/or current/former students at the school. The problem isn't exactly guns. In my view, a big part of the problem is poor parenting and the breakdown of the traditional family unit. What was/is going on in the homes of these people as they moved through adolescence?
Red Lake: 16 year old shooter, former student of the school
Virginia Tech: 23 year old shooter, student at the school
Northern Illinois: 27 year old shooter, former student at the school
Oikos University: 43 year old shooter, former student at the school
Newtown: 20 year old shooter, former student at the school
Marysville: 15 year old shooter, student at the school
Umpqua: 26 year old shooter, student at the school
Parkland: 20 year old shooter, former student at the school
Santa Fe: 17 year old shooter, student at the school
Oxford: 15 year old shooter, student at the school
Uvalde: 18 year old shooter, student at local high school
These shooters are nearly all very young and/or current/former students at the school. The problem isn't exactly guns. In my view, a big part of the problem is poor parenting and the breakdown of the traditional family unit. What was/is going on in the homes of these people as they moved through adolescence?
We know nothing is going to happen...politics as usual especially since it's an election year. Posted earlier that 42% of U.S. households own at least one gun. Neither party is going to want to touch this one in the next six months with actual legislation.
I'll assume most of the weapons used in these shootings were high capacity assault rifles, so it would seem a reasonable step would be to limit purchase of certain models to at least 21; I might suggest 25.
Not the most elegant analogy, but this is like becoming a commercial airline pilot...starting out with small planes, putting in the hours of training (and maturity to handle) and moving to larger planes/jets. You just don't jump into a 767 as your first plane to pilot.
I also would like to see more teeth put into stiffer penalties (and enforcement) of illegal gun ownership. I'm going to guess in the last two years, about the same number of children (19) have been killed by random gun fire in Philadelphia and New York City alone, and those by illegal guns. Those children matter just as much.
Don't expect anything...you elect morons by party initial and you get what you deserve.
The same guy who wants to eliminate school police. What a clown.
Warriors' Kerr Backs Effort to Remove Police From Oakland Schools
While the NBA mulls over when basketball season can safely begin, Warriors Coach Steve Kerr says he’s using his free time to learn about racial issues and on Tuesday, he put his words into actions.
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I love the 25 idea. There is a reason people under 25 cannot rent cars, theyre high risk. But they can go buy a gun at 18. Make it make sense.
I agree that we have to factor in the maturity factor, but also need to be practical by state. There are good reasons why an 18 year old should be able to purchase a rifle or handgun for hunting or protection if they work on a ranch or in a wildlife area. I also think we've gotten to the point where you should have to prove proficiency as a first time gun owner (like passing a drivers test). Most gun ranges as you probably know, require you to watch the safety videos as a first time visitor.
The gun manufacturer from the texas school shooting just withdrew from being at NRA this weekend
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