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Potential Sha Replacements

I would say that given the massive rupture in the sport, there isn't much point in comparing them at all. That is the most salient factor when you consider what each one inherited.
The massive rupture should not have impacted our OOC results. The massive rupture shouldn't cause us to lose on our home court by 30 against the 9th place team in the conference. This is a message board that had us finishing 5th-7th in the league when the coaches poll came out. Everyone knew NIL was here. Now it's just an excuse.
 
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Except, except you’re leaving out the biggest and most damning component which is NIL and paying players. Willard never had to do that.

I would say Willard had an easier time settling in than Sha will ever have going forward.
Yeah good to think Willards competitors, Boeheim and Calhoun never had players who got paid. LOL
 
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The massive rupture should not have impacted our OOC results. The massive rupture shouldn't cause us to lose on our home court by 30 against the 9th place team in the conference. This is a message board that had us finishing 5th-7th in the league when the coaches poll came out. Everyone knew NIL was here. Now it's just an excuse.
Of course it impacted it, and yes, even in the OOC. Because of pay-for-play, we had an entirely new roster this year other than who, Coleman, Tubek, and Addae-Wusu? A roster full of fingers-crossed hopes that these bargain basement finds could turn into something? As it turns out, they aren't great, can't shoot, can't play inside, don't match well together, and might not even be smart enough to learn defensive concepts. So yeah, having that mix of things leveled the competition significant toward the Hofstras and Fordhams, especially when this crew of knuckleheads probably thought they could just show up and beat those teams.

If the head coach was brand new and had no track record, I'd be a lot more concerned about him. But there is context around all of this and not conceding that fact is just stubbornness.
 
OK, I’ll throw some suggestions out

Grant B and Donald Copeland, for obvious reasons. Let’s not forget Level Sanders, too.

Don’t think NBA coaches without college experience work well, but I’ll also toss out Mark Bryant and Adrian Griffin for sake of discussion.

Could go back to Iona pipeline with Tobin Anderson.

Jersey Guy Andy Toole has struggled since Robert Morris changed conferences but perhaps worth a look.
you are making a very strong case for keeping shaheen
 
Of course it impacted it, and yes, even in the OOC. Because of pay-for-play, we had an entirely new roster this year other than who, Coleman, Tubek, and Addae-Wusu? A roster full of fingers-crossed hopes that these bargain basement finds could turn into something? As it turns out, they aren't great, can't shoot, can't play inside, don't match well together, and might not even be smart enough to learn defensive concepts. So yeah, having that mix of things leveled the competition significant toward the Hofstras and Fordhams, especially when this crew of knuckleheads probably thought they could just show up and beat those teams.

If the head coach was brand new and had no track record, I'd be a lot more concerned about him. But there is context around all of this and not conceding that fact is just stubbornness.
Just about every school has about 10 new players. We will have 10 new players again next year, the year after that, and the year after that if the system remains the same. If having new players every year is what keeps us behind we've quite possibly just set up the excuse for the next century.
 
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Just about every school has about 10 new players. We will have 10 new players again next year, the year after that, and the year after that if the system remains the same. If having new players every year is what keeps us behind we've quite possibly just set up the excuse for the next century.
It's no secret that the roster construction this year was a disaster, and a good part of it was because of the coach's choices, electing to spread the meager amount he had across ten guys rather than around two or three guys who were surer bets and let them lead the others. That's not perfect either, but under the new constraints, it's the best bet we have.

We won't need excuses for the next century. Either Seton Hall equips the staff with the money to make the program viable, or it goes away within the next decade. The problem isn't necessarily having ten new players every year; it's having the wrong ten or an ill-fitting ten, or an untalented ten every year. That won't play. But it is the new reality. Enough of them have to come up heads every year or the season's shot. They should at least give the coach a fighting change to pick the right ones.
 
It's no secret that the roster construction this year was a disaster, and a good part of it was because of the coach's choices, electing to spread the meager amount he had across ten guys rather than around two or three guys who were surer bets and let them lead the others. That's not perfect either, but under the new constraints, it's the best bet we have.

We won't need excuses for the next century. Either Seton Hall equips the staff with the money to make the program viable, or it goes away within the next decade. The problem isn't necessarily having ten new players every year; it's having the wrong ten or an ill-fitting ten, or an untalented ten every year. That won't play. But it is the new reality. Enough of them have to come up heads every year or the season's shot. They should at least give the coach a fighting change to pick the right ones.
That’s fine but stop with the 10 new guys problem, no continuity problem because everyone is in the same boat as far as those things go. Poorly constructed roster is the issue, and as far as context and track record what track record does any coach have in getting 10 new guys every year?
 
Yeah good to think Willards competitors, Boeheim and Calhoun never had players who got paid. LOL
No-instead KW got IW’s coach to come and the rest is history. It’s was a brilliant move and worked for him.

But that doesn’t even hold a cup of water now because you have to actually come up with legitimate money to pay players.

Apples and oranges with what each coach had to deal with in their first 3 years—and the foreseeable future.
 
This is a silly thread. Sha is our coach and he's not going anywhere.
Agree for next year. But this response sounds eerily similar to the conventional wisdom [here] before Gonzalez was canned and Willard left for much greener pastures at Maryland.
 
No-instead KW got IW’s coach to come and the rest is history. It’s was a brilliant move and worked for him.

But that doesn’t even hold a cup of water now because you have to actually come up with legitimate money to pay players.

Apples and oranges with what each coach had to deal with in their first 3 years—and the foreseeable future.
Willard did whatever it took to save his job. Sha needs to do the same. Whatever it takes. Find the money. Do something uncomfortable. Anything. This is unsustainable.
 
A local name to keep an eye on moving forward is Dave Klatsky. From Holmdel, played under Dunphy at UPenn, teammate of Matt Langel who gave him a chance at Colgate. Part of the big turnaround there. Wasn't getting any D1 jobs, took the NYU gig (one of the best D3 jobs in the country) and is 39-14 there.

Graduated from the Wharton school, was successful on Wall Street before getting the itch to coach. Very intelligent guy, analytic driven, player friendly. A smart AD from a D1 school will take a chance on him.
 
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A local name to keep an eye on moving forward is Dave Klatsky. From Holmdel, played under Dunphy at UPenn, teammate of Matt Langel who gave him a chance at Colgate. Part of the big turnaround there. Wasn't getting any D1 jobs, took the NYU gig (one of the best D3 jobs in the country) and is 39-14 there.

Graduated from the Wharton school, was successful on Wall Street before getting the itch to coach. Very intelligent guy, analytic driven, player friendly. A smart AD from a D1 school will take a chance on him.
From the Team Rio stashing Scottie Lewis and Bryan Antoine at Ranney family
 
It's no secret that the roster construction this year was a disaster, and a good part of it was because of the coach's choices, electing to spread the meager amount he had across ten guys rather than around two or three guys who were surer bets and let them lead the others. That's not perfect either, but under the new constraints, it's the best bet we have.

We won't need excuses for the next century. Either Seton Hall equips the staff with the money to make the program viable, or it goes away within the next decade. The problem isn't necessarily having ten new players every year; it's having the wrong ten or an ill-fitting ten, or an untalented ten every year. That won't play. But it is the new reality. Enough of them have to come up heads every year or the season's shot. They should at least give the coach a fighting change to pick the right ones.
Not saying this will happen, but let's look at Missouri. Sha is friends with coach Gates. If I'm not mistaken Missouri won O conference games last season. This season, they are in 4Th in SEC after bringing back a core of that bad team and adding 3 top change agents. Maybe there is lemonade to be made from lemons! It's not impossible, and Sha has too much pride as does the university to not make something similar happen.

Maybe our own uber billionaire grad George Kurtz will give something after all! His net worth now at $7 billion per Forbes, 4x that of Vitamin Water/Pitino water boy!
 
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