Only because buying him out is not feasible
Potential Sha Replacements
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The massive rupture should not have impacted our OOC results. The massive rupture shouldn't cause us to lose on our home court by 30 against the 9th place team in the conference. This is a message board that had us finishing 5th-7th in the league when the coaches poll came out. Everyone knew NIL was here. Now it's just an excuse.
Yeah good to think Willards competitors, Boeheim and Calhoun never had players who got paid. LOL
No. Who in their right mind is going to turn down 2.5 million to coach basketball?
A lot of people. Especially when they can make that and more at dozens of other places with more to offer than Seton Hall.
Get creative and mainstream media coverage. Offer a superstar player-coach role for a season.
Of course it impacted it, and yes, even in the OOC. Because of pay-for-play, we had an entirely new roster this year other than who, Coleman, Tubek, and Addae-Wusu? A roster full of fingers-crossed hopes that these bargain basement finds could turn into something? As it turns out, they aren't great, can't shoot, can't play inside, don't match well together, and might not even be smart enough to learn defensive concepts. So yeah, having that mix of things leveled the competition significant toward the Hofstras and Fordhams, especially when this crew of knuckleheads probably thought they could just show up and beat those teams.
If the head coach was brand new and had no track record, I'd be a lot more concerned about him. But there is context around all of this and not conceding that fact is just stubbornness.
you are making a very strong case for keeping shaheen
Seriously. End this fire sha talk its not happening
Bottom line is we are not going to get any coach that has a better resume then Sha end of story! Bonus is he also is a SHU person with NJ area roots too!
How about Brian Earl? Jersey guy; turned around Cornell; off to hot start at William & Mary.
Just about every school has about 10 new players. We will have 10 new players again next year, the year after that, and the year after that if the system remains the same. If having new players every year is what keeps us behind we've quite possibly just set up the excuse for the next century.
It's no secret that the roster construction this year was a disaster, and a good part of it was because of the coach's choices, electing to spread the meager amount he had across ten guys rather than around two or three guys who were surer bets and let them lead the others. That's not perfect either, but under the new constraints, it's the best bet we have.
We won't need excuses for the next century. Either Seton Hall equips the staff with the money to make the program viable, or it goes away within the next decade. The problem isn't necessarily having ten new players every year; it's having the wrong ten or an ill-fitting ten, or an untalented ten every year. That won't play. But it is the new reality. Enough of them have to come up heads every year or the season's shot. They should at least give the coach a fighting change to pick the right ones.
That’s fine but stop with the 10 new guys problem, no continuity problem because everyone is in the same boat as far as those things go. Poorly constructed roster is the issue, and as far as context and track record what track record does any coach have in getting 10 new guys every year?
No-instead KW got IW’s coach to come and the rest is history. It’s was a brilliant move and worked for him.
But that doesn’t even hold a cup of water now because you have to actually come up with legitimate money to pay players.
Apples and oranges with what each coach had to deal with in their first 3 years—and the foreseeable future.
Agree for next year. But this response sounds eerily similar to the conventional wisdom [here] before Gonzalez was canned and Willard left for much greener pastures at Maryland.
Wow. How smart is Jay Wright…. Saw it coming and headed for the hills. Sit back do some tv coverage, a few commercials and enjoy the grand kids
Willard did whatever it took to save his job. Sha needs to do the same. Whatever it takes. Find the money. Do something uncomfortable. Anything. This is unsustainable.
A local name to keep an eye on moving forward is Dave Klatsky. From Holmdel, played under Dunphy at UPenn, teammate of Matt Langel who gave him a chance at Colgate. Part of the big turnaround there. Wasn't getting any D1 jobs, took the NYU gig (one of the best D3 jobs in the country) and is 39-14 there.
Graduated from the Wharton school, was successful on Wall Street before getting the itch to coach. Very intelligent guy, analytic driven, player friendly. A smart AD from a D1 school will take a chance on him.
Graduated from the Wharton school, was successful on Wall Street before getting the itch to coach. Very intelligent guy, analytic driven, player friendly. A smart AD from a D1 school will take a chance on him.
Not saying this will happen, but let's look at Missouri. Sha is friends with coach Gates. If I'm not mistaken Missouri won O conference games last season. This season, they are in 4Th in SEC after bringing back a core of that bad team and adding 3 top change agents. Maybe there is lemonade to be made from lemons! It's not impossible, and Sha has too much pride as does the university to not make something similar happen.
Maybe our own uber billionaire grad George Kurtz will give something after all! His net worth now at $7 billion per Forbes, 4x that of Vitamin Water/Pitino water boy!
The only good thing about NIL is you can change the program in one off season. But, even that is not great because one of the best part of being a Seton Hall fan over the years is seeing teams that tool their lumps, stuck together, developed and experienced success.
One could make the argument that a SHU alum may not be the ideal coach. The personal connection between the school and the coach often makes difficult decisions even harder. This happens all the time in the small business world. Employees take advantage of the relationship they have with their employer or vice versa.
As for the NJ ties, I think you are overstating the importance of being from the area. There isn't a single player on the current team from the area and in the world of pay for play, players will travel from anywhere for the right amount of money.
We are a school that cant come up with more than $1.5 million for NIL, you think we are eating any years of a $3 million per year contract?
This just has to stop. Fine, get your frustrations out....believe me we all have them...but come back to reality, and focus on discussion that actually has a chance of happening.
This is spk spreaded embellished story. Dave had no ties to team rio...this is like saying john kennedy current senator from Louisiana is related to rfk jr
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?? I did not say anything about Sha being replaced. So maybe you are confusing my comments with someone else??
I did say and I"ll stick by it, that I would let anyone on the roster go and in order to bring back an upper tier PG. So, if that means $800,000 or more they should do it. Really they have to do it. Those empty seats vs Butler are the biggest Red Flag to date.
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So…it’s like saying they’re in fact related? RFK Jr. is JFK’s nephew.
Many will argue "it's different," and it is, but I keep thinking of Jeff Ruland at Iona in late 90's - early/mid 2000s. Like Shaheen, an alumnus of the school; same conference where Holloway achieved deserved recognition. Three NCAA trips in nine years from a one-bid league.
In 2005-2006 Iona is 23-8 and is a #13 seed in the tournament. Next year with first eight players from previous team leaving or out for season, he goes 2-28. He's gone.
Ironically, he is replaced by our own Kevin Willard and Shaheen.
In 2005-2006 Iona is 23-8 and is a #13 seed in the tournament. Next year with first eight players from previous team leaving or out for season, he goes 2-28. He's gone.
Ironically, he is replaced by our own Kevin Willard and Shaheen.
To be clear: you said JFK and have since edited the post to say otherwise.
No that is not true. I referenced john kennedy not jfk. John kennedy as in the current senator from louisiana not jfk the president who was assisinated in Texas. You are just creating mis and dis information in attempt to discredit me on this thread...go suck on a lemon
one year at arkansas state, a league no better than maac and a team with more prospect than st. peter's?
maybe if he takes that team to the elite 8.
I think you'd be surprised. As far as being from NJ, what good is that doing us? We don't have one guy on the roster from NJ.
